CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

bekker · 31-03-2020 04:35PM

BloodBath wrote: »

A pretty meaningless figure when most recoveries are not tested with no estimate of unconfirmed cases.

The actual death rate is being estimated to be between 0.6% and 0.7% at the moment putting it at 6-7 times deadlier than the flu.

Agreed, but as good as anything else, and more consistent when used on a single countries figure over time. But testing selection criteria can vary over time as evidenced in Ireland.

There is no evidence for COVID-19 yet available, to back a generally agreed death rate which is based on the annual incidence.

Comparison of death rates to those of a virus for which widespread vaccination is available and to which various age cohorts have previous exposure generated immunities are not valid.

'... The proportion of people who have died from the disease varies strikingly from country to country. Researchers warn that there are so many uncertainties — not least over the true number of infections — that it remains almost impossible to draw firm conclusions about the death rate. '

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 04:36PM

Steve F wrote: »

Some are still treating it as Holidays.

More restrictions on the way.......?

Most people doing most things most of the time has been the CMO mantra. Not seeing that holiday thing personally but anecdotes are not evidence of widespread behaviour. We should see by the end of this week just how well all of it is being observed and working for us.

Hector Savage · 31-03-2020 04:37PM

The fact that it looks like Wimbledon will be cancelled shows the reality of the length of these shutdowns.

Wimbledon cancellation means still in lockdown in July!!!

Christ....

easypazz · 31-03-2020 04:38PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Its always a small minority of idiots who make life difficult for everyone. Its probably the same "rebels" who flew to Italy and back, then went to Cheltenham, then headed en masse to the pubs and are now out there flouting the 2km rule. You know the kind of people who can't sit still for a minute.

That's not fair. At the time people were not as wise to the situation as they are now and there were no travel advisories in place.

It is the UK governments fault not to cancel Cheltenham.

paleoperson · 31-03-2020 04:38PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

They can introduce all the restrictions they want, but there's no enforcement of existing ones and there won't be of new ones.

Our government will always go for punishing those who abide by the rules over punishing those who don't.

Its always a small minority of idiots who make life difficult for everyone. Its probably the same "rebels" who flew to Italy and back, then went to Cheltenham, then headed en masse to the pubs and are now out there flouting the 2km rule. You know the kind of people who can't sit still for a minute.

The 2km rule is stupid and I will flout it as I please.

You are 100% WRONG to think the people flouting it are the ones who took risks before, I am extremely careful and have been for a long time now. I have been social isolating since long before most people were and when people like yourself were still going around taking it easy and getting within 2 metres of people all over the place. I'm not spreading anything, try worrying about your own actions as others have said.

Mod: Banned for a day (from OP: If they post about it here, or encourage others to flout the rules, trying to appear macho, or thinking they are above the rules or simply being a smart arse, posting privileges will be removed)

jonnny68 · 31-03-2020 04:38PM

Practically everyone ive come across is practising social distancing i haven't seen anyone recently who isn't whether that be in the supermarket or on the street when im going for a walk, so i do believe we are on the right track, hopefully in a few weeks things will become less restrictive.

On a lighter note, id anyone else hanging for a pint:pac: jaysus when this is all over there will be the mother of all sessions

DOCARCH · 31-03-2020 04:40PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Wimbledon cancellation means still in lockdown in July!!!

Christ....

Not really.

I suspect 'lockdown' will lift a lot quicker, but life will not return to normal for a long time (both in the UK and Ireland)....no sports events, no concerts, no mass gatherings.

kilkenny31 · 31-03-2020 04:41PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

The fact that it looks like Wimbledon will be cancelled shows the reality of the length of these shutdowns.

Wimbledon cancellation means still in lockdown in July!!!

Christ....

No it doesn't it just means that it's highly unlikely that it will be a good idea for 10's of thousands of people to be together in one area in July. It's also probably more to do with the uncertainty around it. How many people would be employed and how much planning and organising would be going on now for Wimbledon, I'm guessing a lot so it's better to pull the plug now rather than investing time and money into soemthing that has a good chance of being cancelled.

31-03-2020 04:42PM

Urethral Buttercup wrote: »

Some of you people are absolutely mental.

No choice. Currently living with my mam, who's in the group that have to be cocooned. Sister brings shopping to the house. I just can't let her have a bar of chocolate in a wrapper straight out of a shopping bag.

paleoperson · 31-03-2020 04:43PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Not really.

I suspect 'lockdown' will lift a lot quicker, but life will not return to normal for a long time (both in the UK and Ireland)....no sports events, no concerts, no mass gatherings.

The football leagues will be desperate to get started as soon as possible in autumn. They were even still talking about finishing the current season a few days ago.

Downlinz · 31-03-2020 04:43PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

Practically everyone ive come across is practising social distancing i haven't seen anyone recently who isn't whether that be in the supermarket or on the street when im going for a walk, so i do believe we are on the right track, hopefully in a few weeks things will become less restrictive.

There'll always be exceptions but I've seen similar and compliance almost entirely across the board. Irish people are definitely taking this very seriously and that's very encouraging.

Tell me how · 31-03-2020 04:43PM

paleoperson wrote: »

The 2km rule is stupid and I will flout it as I please.

You are 100% WRONG to think the people flouting it are the ones who took risks before, I am extremely careful and have been for a long time now. I have been social isolating since long before most people were and when people like yourself were still going around taking it easy and getting within 2 metres of people all over the place. I'm not spreading anything, try worrying about your own actions as others have said.

On what medical or scientific basis are you flouting this rule?

Busi_Girl08 · 31-03-2020 04:43PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

The fact that it looks like Wimbledon will be cancelled shows the reality of the length of these shutdowns.

Wimbledon cancellation means still in lockdown in July!!!

Christ....

Not necessarily in lockdown. I reckon there will be no mass gatherings, concerts etc until the end of summer. It will be a transition period back to normalcy.

Hopefully.

ChikiChiki · 31-03-2020 04:44PM

Governer Coumo NY. A solid straight talker. People need to hear straight talk and not fed false hope on the scale that is coming from their President.

otnomart · 31-03-2020 04:44PM

Italy's own "Nightingale" Hospital was built in record time in the former exhibition centre and opened today.
Ospedale Fiera Milano

tobefrank321 · 31-03-2020 04:45PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

This is getting really tiring. The few idiots that are making it difficult for everyone are the people who are looking out their windows waiting for someone to make a mistake so they can come on here and tell everyone about it. We're in a virtual lockdown. Worry about yourself. As a country people are doing great. We will have no further restrictions. I'd imagine in a couple of weeks they will lift some restrictions. We are not Italy or Spain we are Ireland. We live differently to those coutries. We live in semi detached and detached houses. We don't need the same restrictions as them.

I don't think you fully understand how this works.

If the child of a nursing home worker or other medical staff goes out and meets their mates, picks up covid19 and passes it on to their parents who brings it into a nursing home, we end up with a nursing home cluster.

You understand it now?

Italy and Spain tried the liberal approach at first. Fat lot of good it did them.

If even one person dies because of people not respecting the restrictions, it will have been too many.

We are in the majority doing great. But there are still people not respecting social isolation. Don't take my word for it, you only have to read back over this thread. Including an account of a woman with covid 19 posting a letter! But hey, let her off, we're not Italy, won't happen here.

DOCARCH · 31-03-2020 04:45PM

paleoperson wrote: »

The football leagues will be desperate to get started as soon as possible in autumn. They were even still talking about finishing the current season a few days ago.

A lot of people will be desperate to do a lot of things!

I suspect the likes of football, rugby, gaa and horse racing might resume behind closed doors.

paleoperson · 31-03-2020 04:45PM

Tell me how wrote: »

On what medical or scientific basis are you flouting this rule?

You can't spread or receive the virus by going on the road in a car or by walking in an area where there is nobody within 100 metres.

kilkenny31 · 31-03-2020 04:48PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I don't think you fully understand how this works.

If the child of a nursing home worker or other medical staff goes out and meets their mates, picks up covid19 and passes it on to their parents who brings it into a nursing home, we end up with a nursing home cluster.

You understand it now?

Italy and Spain tried the liberal approach at first. Fat lot of good it did them.

If even one person dies because of people not respecting the restrictions, it will have been too many.

Yes but we had a liberal approach and it done us a lot of good. See our day on day increases now a fraction of what they were. We are not Italy or Spain we don't live staked on top of each other in apartments.

jobeenfitz · 31-03-2020 04:50PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

The fact that it looks like Wimbledon will be cancelled shows the reality of the length of these shutdowns.

Wimbledon cancellation means still in lockdown in July!!!

Christ....

Maybe not in lockdown but just some restrictions. Large gatherings will prob be one of last restrictions to be lifted IMO. if so calling off Wimbledon now jus common sense.

spookwoman · 31-03-2020 04:50PM

https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1245015127687974913?s=20

BanditLuke · 31-03-2020 04:50PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Governer Coumo NY. A solid straight talker. People need to hear straight talk and not fed false hope on the scale that is coming from their President.

You are right

paleoperson · 31-03-2020 04:50PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yes but we had a liberal approach and it done us a lot of good. See our day on day increases now a fraction of what they were. We are not Italy or Spain we don't live staked on top of each other in apartments.

So what are you saying?

There aren't enough people dying so let's relax what we're doing and allow the death rate to go up a bit? Stupid post.

BanditLuke · 31-03-2020 04:51PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Governer Coumo NY. A solid straight talker. People need to hear straight talk and not fed false hope on the scale that is coming from their President.

You are right

tobefrank321 · 31-03-2020 04:51PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Can you fire up your qualifications to make this statement please, in your own time. Be great to see how they stack up against medical experts.

Thanks.

What has asking people that people should be fined got to do with being a medical expert?

Genuinely confused how you are making the link here?

Every single medical expert has said we need to respect restrictions.

tobefrank321 · 31-03-2020 04:53PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yes but we had a liberal approach and it done us a lot of good. See our day on day increases now a fraction of what they were. We are not Italy or Spain we don't live staked on top of each other in apartments.

Half of Dublin city is like that.

antodeco · 31-03-2020 04:54PM

Its really scary if 133 ICU patients mean we are under severe pressure...

tony1980 · 31-03-2020 04:54PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Governer Coumo NY. A solid straight talker. People need to hear straight talk and not fed false hope on the scale that is coming from their President.

Really like him! Was watching him last night and the way he was speaking about a war and everyone rallying together and the fact he sounds like Al Pacino totally reminded me of Pacinos speech from Any Given Sunday

shocksy · 31-03-2020 04:55PM

https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1245015435893932035?s=19

Gynoid · 31-03-2020 04:55PM

Urethral Buttercup wrote: »

Some of you people are absolutely mental.

Prior to stocking fridges and cupboards, shelves should be wiped with sanitiser and a paper towels and as coronavirus can survive on hard surfaces, the outside of all canned/hard surface pack goods should be wiped with a paper towel and warm soapy water,

An alternate option would be to leave non-perishable foods in a safe place for 72 hours. Remove outer food packaging and discard, being careful to limit handling of the inner packaging of items such as yoghurts.

The above is a quote from an Iriah Times article yesterday.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/warning-of-coronavirus-risks-over-careless-handling-of-shopping-1.4215864

Nobody wants to be running round looking like a silly goose, but simple logic would dictate that the surfaces of grocery packaging is at least somewhat of a likely vector for virus into peoples homes.
So people are devising their own little routines, while at the same time trying not to turn into Howard Hughes.

If you read the AMA thread by the consultant he is going to fairly substantial lengths to disinfect anything that comes into his home.

The person you responded to is only trying to mind their Ma.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP