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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    I wish those reporters on RTE would stop saying each day that half the the people were over or younger than the average age of death. They seem to think that half the values in a range have to be above the average and half below. It means no such thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭jarvis


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    You know there are some epidemiologists who've contracted it? No matter how many precautions you take you can still 'get it'.

    Yeah I get that. It’s very risky but when you’re the leader of a nation and you’re going around shaking hands and speaking if herd immunity etc before the panic kicks in you look like a total fool!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    It was 40,000 a week ago I thought I read.

    Seems a big drop

    they scrapped that list and started again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭scrubs33


    First of all sympathies to the families of those who have passed away. However I think these are very positive numbers and give good reason to hope the end is in sight. If the HSE are giving mid April as peak I think we’ll see a slight relaxation of restrictions the first week in May but not before the bank holiday. Schools will stay closed but I think there might be a push for primary schools to open after the June weekend. That’s what 3 weeks before they close anyway? See how things are going for those few weeks and let them off again for July and August. Movement in and out of Ireland could be restricted but I really do think things will be getting someway back to normal by mid June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    marilynrr wrote: »
    But initially rates would go up because of household infections, after a while we should see the benefits!

    It depends on how widespread the invection is in the general public before lockdown.
    51%of invections were community base before lockdown, the actual spread in the community is unknown.
    So if the infection rate keeps dropping by next weekend it might indicate community infection may not be as widespread as feard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Haven't we curtailed testing due to lack of equipment though, so the low % increase is to be expected.

    No?

    We don't know. I have no idea why they can't release along with the number of cases how many tests that figure is calculated from. There is no data protection stuff preventing this and yet we never get that number until someone decides to at random point, fill us in a cumlative number to date. It leads to wild speculation over reasons for the numbers being up or down which could be avoided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,782 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Updating the graph for ICU bed projections with today's 88 number.
    As has been mentioned, they said 88 is the number currently in ICU beds as opposed to admissions which they'd be stating on previous days.
    I'm going to keep using the previous numbers since we don't any other numbers to use.
    The graphs now better represent that which we are interested in, the current ICU bed usage, although they don't include non-Covid occupants.

    9QJBLHR.png


    These graphs are estimates based on the percentage increases over previous days and are dependent on multiple external factors that can't be modeled so should be considered as guesswork.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Last week the labs were processing 2000 a day, and it was to increase to 4,000 per day quickly and ultimately 15,000 a day.


    have you a link to that?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,439 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Why dont they publish the exact amount that have been tested and the amount of test that have been processed to date? This would give us an idea of the if the amount per day has increased significantly. I don't see why if they have nothing to hide that they don't do this.

    Northern Ireland put out a surveillance report every day, even at the weekend

    https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/sites/default/files/2020-03/COVID-19%20Surveillance%20Bulletin%2029.03.20.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    blackcard wrote: »
    Thanks for the charts, it shows the forecast of what may happen. I would just query the projected amount of deaths. The last 2 days have seen 14 and 10 deaths yet you are projecting 3 deaths per day going forward?

    Nursing home deaths caused yesterdays spike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,237 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    CityWest Hotel and Conference Centre in Dublin will be an isolation centre and step down care centre, likely more hotels around the country will be the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    blackcard wrote: »
    Thanks for the charts, it shows the forecast of what may happen. I would just query the projected amount of deaths. The last 2 days have seen 14 and 10 deaths yet you are projecting 3 deaths per day going forward?

    Hi Blackcard

    l the number is in the top left, i picked 1% as it's about where S.Korea is at with high testing, it might be as high as 3% time will tell
    numbers from Italy and Spain are distorted as they can't test everyone. I up date with the daily numbers in Bold each day.
    it could be higher but it's very hard to tell as the start of an outbrake

    Regards

    Coyote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭FullOf..IT


    Several of the test centres closed without notice today because they ran out of kits. This will impact reported new cases in a few days. We cannot look at new case numbers as indicative of anything when testing is chopping and changing criteria, or suddenly put on hold. If testing criteria and capacity isn't consistent, then patterns in the cases reported are not meaningful.

    Source???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭blackcard


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Nursing home deaths caused yesterdays spike.

    Fair enough but there was another 10 deaths today and supposedly clusters in a number of nursing homes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    owlbethere wrote: »
    On the other hand, we see what's happening in mainland Europe and beyond. What makes you think Ireland is going to be so special. So many people here are holding tight, hoping and praying that this doesn't explode. We're all hoping to see some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.

    It is sort of being actively discussed here.

    You could argue that the more optimistic (or less pessimistic) among us are desperately looking for hope in data - numbers that we might look back on as being worthless.

    But, right now, the data is probably all that we can go on. And right now, there appear to be some reasons to be optimistic. Particuiarly relative to other countries.

    It is possible for Ireland to be more like South Korea / Japan if we get this response right. We don't have to be like UK / USA. I specifically referred to the UK and US as their situations are still very much developing but there is mounting evidence to suggest that they entirely botched their response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    have you a link to that?

    You know I just google these things but here you go from The Irish Times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Why dont they publish the exact amount that have been tested and the amount of test that have been processed to date? This would give us an idea of the if the amount per day has increased significantly. I don't see why if they have nothing to hide that they don't do this.
    Because it is a continuous service that is running 24/7.
    Some labs might get through 300 samples a day one day and 400 the next depending on staff levels, number of tests coming in, reagents available etc. It's not a fixed throughput, and more labs may be coming on stream or offering a limited service until all their staff are trained to run it.
    Well that would be much better , where did you get the figure for 33,000? It would be an improvement but nowhere near the 5000 they are claiming per day. Have you a link to the 33,000 figure.
    I got it from Coyote:
    Coyote wrote: »
    from Irish Times

    he HSE disclosed that 15,500 people are waiting to be tested for Covid-19 since the Government changed the criteria for testing to people displaying two symptoms of the infection.

    Among those waiting for a test 10,700 have an appointment and 4,800 are awaiting a test. There are 5,000 tests being carried out every day.

    More than 33,000 people have been tested since March 16th.

    The HSE has 46 testing centres in operation and a further six will come on stream next week. Up to 60,000 testing kits have been delivered and a further 100,000 will be delivered each week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/german-minister-commits-suicide-after-virus-crisis-worries
    German finance minister commits suicide over worries of coronavirus impact on national economy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    blackcard wrote: »
    Fair enough but there was another 10 deaths today and supposedly clusters in a number of nursing homes

    Average age today is 77 and 6 east 3 northwest (where would that be? Donegal I guess would Connacht not just be west?) And 1 south.

    Some of those east are probably more nursing home residents again. Possibly a younger person aswell to reduce the average.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Yes as the hypochondriacs blocking the system with head colds had their tests cancelled.

    Everyone without a confirmed close contact or underlying illness had their test cancelled regardless of symptoms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    FullOf..IT wrote: »
    Source???


    They said Cork had run out of kits at the HSE press conference today. There are reports on twitter and boards.ie of other centers having no kits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    https://kclr96fm.com/covid19-virus-to-peak-here-in-mid-april/
    The spread of the Covid19 in Ireland is to peak in mid-April, according to Dr Sarah Doyle, consultant in Public Health Medicine with the HSE.
    Dr Sarah Doyle gave the information during a virtual press conference earlier, along with a number of senior HSE team members.

    A peak would come and go, she said, and Ireland would continue to have a high number of people availing of services once that peak has passed. The peak would occur between April 10 and 14.

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 smallfryy


    How can it possibly be contained in sh*tholes like India and African countries? People live on top of each other, is there even any point in introducing measures?

    Ah FFS cop onto yourself.

    ''****holes like India and African countries''.
    I bet your only experience of the world is what you've seen on those exploitative Concern ads.

    And yes there absolutely is a point in introducing measures to reduce the spread of this virus. Get out of your ma's boxroom and learn something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    2 further passengers on the cruise ship in Panama have died, total 4 now. 130 other passengers are suspected, and showing flu like symptoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/german-minister-commits-suicide-after-virus-crisis-worries
    German finance minister commits suicide over worries of coronavirus impact on national economy

    That is so sad. May he rest in peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    have you a link to that?

    It was in the press conference from Citywest this morning,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭outsourced_ire


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1244305935897681926

    506 cases so far associated with HCW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    murpho999 wrote: »
    How is that logical?

    They changed the criteria as there were far too many negative tests and that only wasted tests.

    So with new criteria then they're increasing the likelihood of people having it and therefore positives would increase.

    Ok, I must be missing something so?

    Have they not made the testing criteria more strict, i.e. they are only testing people that have multiple sympthoms?

    Thus, if they are still testing at the same volume, and still getting results on the same timelines, more a higher percentage of tests would be positive?

    Apologies if my understanding is off here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,237 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    FullOf..IT wrote: »
    Source???

    Testing in Cork and Dublin was suspended over lack of kits

    It was reported by local radio news, I'm sure maybe the newspaper sites also have it

    Sorry don't have a specific link


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