CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

murpho999 · 29-03-2020 06:13PM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

They are taking samples from thousands, how many do the process per day? People wait days for results so this figure is where we were at days ago

Last week the labs were processing 2000 a day, and it was to increase to 4,000 per day quickly and ultimately 15,000 a day.

XsApollo · 29-03-2020 06:13PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

What makes you think that? lots of people have the virus and only have mild symptoms like a cough etc

They now can not be tested because of the new testing criteria

It also stops the testing of people that don’t have it, by upping the symptoms criteria you are increasing the chances that the people you are testing actually have it so the numbers should increase.
They are still testing the same amount just
More stringent.

JP Liz V1 · 29-03-2020 06:14PM

10,700 waiting on tests

ChikiChiki · 29-03-2020 06:14PM

Good numbers apart from the deaths of course.

But it could be for a myriad of reasons like we have seen today with test kits so let's not get complacent. That's the only think I fear with lower numbers, complacency.

owlbethere · 29-03-2020 06:14PM

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Why can't some people accept any promising news, and instead have to get all disappointed and frantic by putting so much negative spin and speculation on any positivity.

It is getting very fcucking tiring on this thread.

What's forcing you from coming on here and taking part in the thread if it's getting tiring for you?

Believe me, I would love to take all the positives here and I do my best to focus on the positives and loads of good posters here who really push this across with so much sense and putting people at ease. I'm really trying to pick out positives a lot of the time.

On the other hand, we see what's happening in mainland Europe and beyond. What makes you think Ireland is going to be so special. So many people here are holding tight, hoping and praying that this doesn't explode. We're all hoping to see some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.

marilynrr · 29-03-2020 06:14PM

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Why can't some people accept any promising news, and instead have to get all disappointed and frantic by putting so much negative spin and speculation on any positivity.

It is getting very fcucking tiring on this thread.

Wrecks my head too!
It's like they want to be able to say they 'called it' later on if the situation seriously worsens.

RugbyLad11 · 29-03-2020 06:14PM

Logan Roy wrote: »

How do people not get it. The testing criteria is stricter so you’d expect to see more positive test results.

The majority of people who get this virus only have mild symptoms, the testing criteria now will only catch the most serious cases

FVP3 · 29-03-2020 06:15PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Yet I think China specifically the Chinese government are a bunch of lying corrupt face saving bastards overseeing a totalitarian Orwellian state with a low value for human life, once it's not their own or their friends in the system.

So how does that work for your China is Great defence playbook?

Well if they had a low value on human life they would have let the economy rumble on in Wuhan and taken the deaths on the chin. Chinese culture seems to have a fairly deep respect for the elderly.

I don't think I would want to necessarily live in China, by the way, but like Putin's Russia and other countries disliked by the Americans, the attacks on the country tend towards hysteria. The countries are far more popular with their people than American imperialism suggests.

My reaction to the very real propaganda that emanates from the US ( largely) and drives its population to support every war, every overthrow or every government, every bomb raid, every sanction, every "moderate rebel" headchopping a nun, is disbelief to being with. I find that tends to work out long term.

In the case of China, if the US gets its ovine population ( and its foreign cheerleaders) as riled up as they have for every war or campaign in the last two decades, it will lead to the destruction of the world. I am inclined to oppose that.

in this particular case, the virus - I can't see that China has in fact done much wrong, while Trump has done everything wrong ( except and paradoxically in fact banning the Chinese flights).

The US wants to blame its own inadequacies on a "chinese virus" and those of us outside the zone of indoctrination should be alert to the bleatings of this decaying power.

murpho999 · 29-03-2020 06:15PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

The new testing criteria will effectively result in increased positive, no?

So, the number of confirmed cases, relative to the number of testing being performed, will be higher.

The confirmed percentage here up to the change in criteria was just 4% here. Whereas it was closer to 10% in the UK. The UK were testing based on a narrower criteria.

How is that logical?

They changed the criteria as there were far too many negative tests and that only wasted tests.

So with new criteria then they're increasing the likelihood of people having it and therefore positives would increase.

BanditLuke · 29-03-2020 06:15PM

FVP3 wrote: »

I'd take the critics of the government more seriously if they had demanded a full lock down on Feb 29th. Which they mostly didn't of course. Nobody did. In fact quite a few who were cynics at the start were castigating the government later.

Not true. Plenty on here myself included called for a full lockdown well before Feb 29th. In fact a lot of posters as far back as the end of January where scoffed at when they said this would collapse the world economy but sure at the end of the day we are all just some plebs online and the government has to make the tough decisions.

careless sherpa · 29-03-2020 06:16PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

But lots of people have the virus and they only have one symptom, so now they won't get tested......

Added to that is the phenomenon of false negatives in relation to this strain of Corona virus. Are more than likely multiples of the official number infected. Hopefully the lockdown will Mena that the further spread is limited to intra household

FVP3 · 29-03-2020 06:16PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Believe me, I would love to take all the positives here and I do my best to focus on the positives and loads of good posters here who really push this across with so much sense and putting people at ease. I'm really trying to pick out positives a lot of the time.

Not really seeing that.

TheDoctor · 29-03-2020 06:16PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

10,700 waiting on tests

It was 40,000 a week ago I thought I read.

Seems a big drop

Jim_Hodge · 29-03-2020 06:16PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

But lots of people have the virus and they only have one symptom, so now they won't get tested......

But they are testing as many as possible and doing so with the more likely cases.

Look, don't get caught up with the number of tests. Look at the number of people so unwell they need hospital care. If the rest of us stay home, whether feeling unwell or not, then we can keep a handle on this.

JP Liz V1 · 29-03-2020 06:17PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

My brother was tested on March 18th at 3.30. Still no result. 11 days later!

I thought if not contacted back in 48 hours then negative, only contacted back if positive

ACitizenErased · 29-03-2020 06:17PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

10,700 waiting on tests

5% positive rate here (95% tested negative) suggests only 535 cases out of them.

GooglePlus · 29-03-2020 06:17PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

The new testing criteria will effectively result in increased positive, no?

So, the number of confirmed cases, relative to the number of testing being performed, will be higher.

The confirmed percentage here up to the change in criteria was just 4% here. Whereas it was closer to 10% in the UK. The UK were testing based on a narrower criteria.

There's so many reports of people waiting on a test or results, I wouldn't be hopeful that the figures are a true reflection of our current situation.

endainoz · 29-03-2020 06:17PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

How can it possibly be contained in sh*tholes like India and African countries? People live on top of each other, is there even any point in introducing measures?

Sounds a bit like the Trumpy line of thinking there. Should we just let them all die so?

Professor Moriarty · 29-03-2020 06:17PM

marilynrr wrote: »

Wrecks my head too!
It's like they want to be able to say they 'called it' later on if the situation seriously worsens.

Haters gonna hate.

Marsden35 · 29-03-2020 06:17PM

Happy4all wrote: »

Sadly I don't think death is so selective.

Yeah I read an article about the NHS once and statistically more people died on weekends in hospitals. They still don't quite know why, but perhaps the psychological process of someone barely clinging on is they can't be arsed going through another week of it.

trapp · 29-03-2020 06:18PM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

Is there any rhyme or reason as to who this virus attacks more than others?

Turkey’s former goalkeeper and their most capped player - Rustu Recher - is just 46 and in critical condition with it.

No mentions in any articles of underlying health problems and surely he’d be much fitter than most of us given his former job

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52084741

Versus Boris Johnson who is 10 years older and has never looked like the healthiest of people or someone who looks after themselves. Yet his case is so mild he’s still working from home

So what’s going on with this thing?

I’m aware there’s two strains of it. Is one more lethal than others?

Seeing a footballer in critical care at the age of just 46 years old is giving me stress to be honest

With respect at 46 years of age he's not a footballer anymore.

Who knows how many footballers live their lives after playing. Many (not saying him in particular) have addiction issues, smoking, overeating etc.

Think of Gazza.

Again not suggesting this ex player wasn't in good health but it does seem fair to say that in almost all cases, relatively young and health people recover.

TheDoctor · 29-03-2020 06:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

5% positive rate here (95% tested negative) suggests only 535 cases out of them.

No wonder they tightened the testing. Seems everyone with a sniffle was getting tested. Wasting time and resources

murpho999 · 29-03-2020 06:18PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

It was 40,000 a week ago I thought I read.

Seems a big drop

Yes as the hypochondriacs blocking the system with head colds had their tests cancelled.

lbj666 · 29-03-2020 06:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

5% positive rate here (95% tested negative) suggests only 535 cases out of them.

Is that %tage before or after they changed the criteria for testing, think it was before

cameramonkey · 29-03-2020 06:19PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

You keep saying "doing". What do you mean?!

There wasn't near the amount of tests requested to be processed when we began. Testing has ramped up to try and meet demand. Getting the average number of tests done per day is useless. It makes it seem like we're testing f*ck all.

If the number of tests done as of the 23rd March was ~18,000 and now it is at ~33,000 that implies we have processed ~15,000 tests in the last week, averaging 2,143 a day.

With the number of tests being done per day increasing all the time

Well that would be much better , where did you get the figure for 33,000? It would be an improvement but nowhere near the 5000 they are claiming per day. Have you a link to the 33,000 figure.

FVP3 · 29-03-2020 06:19PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Not true. Plenty on here myself included called for a full lockdown well before Feb 29th. In fact a lot of posters as far back as the end of January where scoffed at when they said this would collapse the world economy but sure at the end of the day we are all just some plebs online and the government has to make the tough decisions.

I did a search, and to be fair, you did.

blackcard · 29-03-2020 06:19PM

Coyote wrote: »

Number updated to match today's report

Warning today's numbers might be a downward blip due to the change in testing

No Change in number

Slow Change

Big Drop in numbers

again with all of this i'm just trying to show people the 14 day delay in an change in how we deal with this
if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late
everyone has to make up there own mind but at least look at the maths

3 weeks no change 44K
3 weeks slow change 29K
3 weeks big drop 9K

1 month no change 151K
1 month slow change 56K
1 month big drop 11K

intresting visualization of covid
http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

you need to decide what you do today to affect 3 weeks from now

Thanks for the charts, it shows the forecast of what may happen. I would just query the projected amount of deaths. The last 2 days have seen 14 and 10 deaths yet you are projecting 3 deaths per day going forward?

Ray Donovan · 29-03-2020 06:20PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

he must be over it now?

Still has a dry cough. But no temperature.

Marsden35 · 29-03-2020 06:20PM

Just a month ago, Erdogan of Turkey claimed they had no cases and that Turkey was a "model" of how to deal with it.

They're now at nearly 10,000 cases

JP Liz V1 · 29-03-2020 06:20PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

The majority of people who get this virus only have mild symptoms, the testing criteria now will only catch the most serious cases

I don't think Simon Coveney had any symptoms only was in contact with a confirmed positive carrier

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03