CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

BanditLuke

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/german-minister-commits-suicide-after-virus-crisis-worries
German finance minister commits suicide over worries of coronavirus impact on national economy

That is so sad. May he rest in peace.

Jim_Hodge

cameramonkey wrote: »

have you a link to that?

It was in the press conference from Citywest this morning,

outsourced_ire

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1244305935897681926

506 cases so far associated with HCW.

jesus_thats_gre

murpho999 wrote: »

How is that logical?

They changed the criteria as there were far too many negative tests and that only wasted tests.

So with new criteria then they're increasing the likelihood of people having it and therefore positives would increase.

Ok, I must be missing something so?

Have they not made the testing criteria more strict, i.e. they are only testing people that have multiple sympthoms?

Thus, if they are still testing at the same volume, and still getting results on the same timelines, more a higher percentage of tests would be positive?

Apologies if my understanding is off here?

JP Liz V1

FullOf..IT wrote: »

Source???

Testing in Cork and Dublin was suspended over lack of kits

It was reported by local radio news, I'm sure maybe the newspaper sites also have it

Sorry don't have a specific link

Bob24

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/german-minister-commits-suicide-after-virus-crisis-worries
German finance minister commits suicide over worries of coronavirus impact on national economy

To be clear he was Finance minister of one of the German Länder, not of Germany. But anyway that is shocking.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I really miss my parents.

I'm used to seeing my mother a lot more than your average 30-something because she comes with me to hospital appointments and gets my prescriptions. I can't wait to hug her again.

jesus_thats_gre

GooglePlus wrote: »

There's so many reports of people waiting on a test or results, I wouldn't be hopeful that the figures are a true reflection of our current situation.

Agree entirely. My point is that it is one of a few data points that we have available. And the data is largely consistent right now - even it if might end up completely worthless when we look back on this.

cameramonkey

Martina1991 wrote: »

Because it is a continuous service that is running 24/7.
Some labs might get through 300 samples a day one day and 400 the next depending on staff levels, number of tests coming in, reagents available etc. It's not a fixed throughput, and more labs may be coming on stream or offering a limited service until all their staff are trained to run it.


I got it from Coyote:

Again there is a difference between testing and processing those test. It seems the HSE has not published these numbers. Hopefully they are not hiding a poor testing regime but we dont know unfortunately.

recyclebin

murpho999 wrote: »

You know I just google these things but here you go from The Irish Times.

The Cork one was closed today due to lack of kits but they expect to reopen tomorrow.

Coyote

cameramonkey wrote: »

have you a link to that?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-ten-more-deaths-reported-in-republic-1.4215029

this link does not use a paid wall, at least for me

quote
The HSE disclosed that 15,500 people are waiting to be tested for Covid-19 since the Government changed the criteria for testing to people displaying two symptoms of the infection.

Among those waiting for a test 10,700 have an appointment and 4,800 are awaiting a test. There are 5,000 tests being carried out every day.

More than 33,000 people have been tested since March 16th.

The HSE has 46 testing centres in operation and a further six will come on stream next week. Up to 60,000 testing kits have been delivered and a further 100,000 will be delivered each week.

Martina1991

cameramonkey wrote: »

Again there is a difference between testing and processing those test. It seems the HSE has not published these numbers. Hopefully they are not hiding a poor testing regime but we dont know unfortunately.

The number of tests to date (~33,000) is the number of people that have had a swab taken, lab processed and results released.

tobefrank321

FVP3 wrote: »

I'd take the critics of the government more seriously if they had demanded a full lock down on Feb 29th. Which they mostly didn't of course. Nobody did. In fact quite a few who were cynics at the start were castigating the government later.

FFS.

People were demanding flights from Northern Italy be grounded in early March until a plan was in place to bring Irish citizens only home in a controlled manner that involved temperature and symptom checks at the very least. These people were ignored by the government. If only the government listened then we'd have avoided a large number of cases and resulting deaths.

The government tried to press on with St Patricks Day Parades and critcised towns who cancelled theres.

People demanded school closures, the government hesitated.

It was obvious nursing homes were a major risk and people were saying that staff were not wearing the nessecay PPE. Ignored. Holohan even wanted to life visitor restrictions. People's criticisms again ignored.

People have been saying for weeks our lockdown has been a farce with no consequences for those who break it. Ignored.

Now people are saying its madness to allow flights in from London and New York without screening or mandatory supervised isolation. Ignored.

People said going ahead with Cheltenham was crazy. The government didn't even bother issuing a travel advisory on that one, not that anyone takes Irish government travel advisories seriously.

And on and on. You clearly haven't been paying attention to the inaction of our government from the start.

Their actions have come very late and too late for those in ICU or worse.

wakka12

I think France just updates once a day? If so, also a big drop there like in Italy. Just 2600 new cases vs 4000 yesterday. Deaths are similar though at nearly 300.

cameramonkey

Coyote wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-ten-more-deaths-reported-in-republic-1.4215029

this link does not use a paid wall, at least for me

quote
The HSE disclosed that 15,500 people are waiting to be tested for Covid-19 since the Government changed the criteria for testing to people displaying two symptoms of the infection.

Among those waiting for a test 10,700 have an appointment and 4,800 are awaiting a test. There are 5,000 tests being carried out every day.

More than 33,000 people have been tested since March 16th.

The HSE has 46 testing centres in operation and a further six will come on stream next week. Up to 60,000 testing kits have been delivered and a further 100,000 will be delivered each week.

Have these tests been processed?

Sober Crappy Chemis

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I really miss my parents.

I'm used to seeing my mother a lot more than your average 30-something because she comes with me to hospital appointments and gets my prescriptions. I can't wait to hug her again.

Best wishes to you my friend.

Marsden35

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I really miss my parents.

I'm used to seeing my mother a lot more than your average 30-something because she comes with me to hospital appointments and gets my prescriptions. I can't wait to hug her again.

My mum's birthday today. Can't celebrate. She's a nurse in a nursing home, so obviously needs to keep herself isolated as much as possible.

I'm going to leave her disinfected present on her doorstep, then wave from a distance.

Sucks.

murpho999

iguana wrote: »

Everyone without a confirmed close contact or underlying illness had their test cancelled regardless of symptoms.

Makes complete sense and if you had persistent systems then you ring and get tested.

Carbon125

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/german-minister-commits-suicide-after-virus-crisis-worries
German finance minister commits suicide over worries of coronavirus impact on national economy

Fake news.

"Hessian finance minister Thomas Schäfer (CDU) was found dead on Saturday."

He died by suicide, but the Motive is as yet unknown.

MOR316

BanditLuke wrote: »

Not true. Plenty on here myself included called for a full lockdown well before Feb 29th. In fact a lot of posters as far back as the end of January where scoffed at when they said this would collapse the world economy but sure at the end of the day we are all just some plebs online and the government has to make the tough decisions.

I think this pandemic should be a lesson to people...

That lesson is, do not comment on or pass judgement on something/someone you have absolutely no clue about!

As you say, loads on here passed comment and judgement on something they hadn't a clue about and scoffed at the people making predictions, whom had actually read up on this particular subject.

Should serve as a lesson be put into practice for the future but alas, we know people are too arrogant and ignorant for that

cosanostra

TheDoctor wrote: »

It was 40,000 a week ago I thought I read.

Seems a big drop

Yes it was quoted as been over 40k then they said the demand was in the 10s of thousands per day but we were only testing 2 or 3k so they tore up the list and started again, due to the high demand some tests were getting wasted but as the CMO said the positive cases figure is ultimatly meaningless it just allows them to contact trace but if you have symptoms you should be isolating as if you have it anyway.
I believe the numbers will be much higher than reported but the most important number is those in hospital and ICU and from reports hospitals are beginning to struggle also the HSE have a lot more info than the general public they know things like if there's other bugs going around in certain areas with similar symptoms or if they get a positive result in a rural area in west mayo and they have a lot of cases with similar symptoms they can crudely estimate a more realistic number, from the measures taken in the past week it would suggest they are'nt seeing the numbers as being as low a reported they seem to be still planningas if we'll hit the initial 15k estimate which is probably a more realistic figure

GM228

Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 30 - Sunday 29/03/2020

Today's Stats:-
Total cases: 2615
Daily case increase: 8.2%
Daily case confirmation increase/decrease: -31.79%
Mortality rate: 1.76%
Recovery rate: 0.19%
Poplulation infected: 0.053%

Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 34.26%
Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 20/03/20): 16.80%
Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 23/03/20): 16.43%
Average daily cases last 3 days (since 27/03/20): 12.92%

Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 39.56%
Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 20/03/20): 4.72%
Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 23/03/20): 11.67%
Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 27/03/20): -5.40%


For comparrison, yesterday's day 1, 3 day, 7 day and 10 day averages:-

GM228 wrote: »

Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 35.15%
Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 19/03/20): 21.19%
Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 22/03/20): 17.45%
Average daily cases last 3 days (since 26/03/20): 15.59%

Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 42.02%
Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 19/03/20): 23.73%
Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 22/03/20): 18.89%
Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 26/03/20): 8.10%

DAY

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DATE

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Cases

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New Cases

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Total Cases

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Case Increase

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Daily Reporting Change

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Deaths to date

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Mortality Rate

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Hospitalised

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Hospital Rate

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ICU

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ICU Rate

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*Recovered

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Recovery Rate

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Population %

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**Current Active Cases

1|29/02/2020|0|1|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
2|01/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
3|02/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
4|03/03/2020|1|1|2|100.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|2
5|04/03/2020|2|4|6|200.00%|300.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|6
6|05/03/2020|6|7|13|116.67%|75.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|13
7|06/03/2020|13|5|18|38.46%|-28.57%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|18
8|07/03/2020|18|1|19|5.56%|-80.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|19
9|08/03/2020|19|2|21|10.53%|100.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|21
10|09/03/2020|21|3|24|14.29%|50.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|24
11|10/03/2020|24|10|34|41.67%|233.33%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|34
12|11/03/2020|34|9|43|26.47%|-10.00%|1|2.33%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|42
13|12/03/2020|43|27|70|62.79%|200.00%|1|1.43%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|69
14|13/03/2020|70|20|90|28.57%|-25.93%|1|1.11%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.002%|89
15|14/03/2020|90|39|129|43.33%|95.00%|2|1.55%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|127
16|15/03/2020|129|40|169|31.01%|2.56%|2|1.18%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|167
17|16/03/2020|169|54|223|31.95%|35.00%|2|0.90%|84|37.7%|6|2.69%|5|2.24%|0.005%|216
18|17/03/2020|223|69|292|30.94%|27.78%|2|0.68%|108|37%|7|2.40%|5|1.71%|0.006%|285
19|18/03/2020|292|74|366|25.34%|7.25%|2|0.55%|140|38.8%|12|3.28%%|5|1.37%|0.007%|359
20|19/03/2020|366|191|557|52.19%|158.11%|3|0.54%|173|31.1%|13|2.33%|5|0.9%|0.011%|549
21|20/03/2020|557|126|683|22.62%|-34.03%|3|0.44%|211|30.9%|13|1.90%|5|0.73%|0.014%|675
22|21/03/2020|683|102|785|14.93%|-19.05%|3|0.38%|239|30.4%|25|3.18%|5|0.64%|0.016%|777
23|22/03/2020|785|121|906|15.41%|18.63%|4|0.44%|277|30.6%|36|3.97%|5|0.64%|0.018%|897
24|23/03/2020|906|219|1125|24.17%|80.99%|6|0.53%|305|27.1%|39|3.47%|5|0.44%|0.023%|1114
25|24/03/2020|1129|204|1329|18.13%|-6.85%|7|0.53%|340|25.61|47|3.54%|5|0.38%|0.027%|1317
26|25/03/2020|1329|235|1564|17.68%|15.20%|9|0.58%|419|26.8%|59|3.77%|5|0.32%|0.032%|1550
27|26/03/2020|1564|255|1819|16.30%|8.51%|19|1.04%|489|26.9%|67|3.68%|5|0.27%|0.037%|1795
28|27/03/2020|1819|302|2121|16.60%|18.43%|22|1.04%|564|26.6%|70|3.30%|5|0.24%|0.043%|2094
29|28/03/2020|2121|294|2415|13.86%|-2.65%|36|1.49%|NR|NR|73|3.02%|5|0.21%|0.049%|2374
30|29/03/2020|2415|200|2615|8.28%|-31.97%|46|1.76%|NR|NR|73|2.79%|5|0.19%|0.053%|2564

NR = Not Reported

Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

*"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting. Recovered statistics can only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed.
** Due to the above issues with reporting of revovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats
Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/20 Stats
Day 26 - Wednesday 25/03/20 Stats
Day 27 - Thursday 26/03/20 Stats
Day 28 - Friday 27/03/20 Stats
Day 29 - Saturday 28/03/20 Stats

cameramonkey

Martina1991 wrote: »

The number of tests to date (~33,000) is the number of people that have had a swab taken, lab processed and results released.

If so that is better. Have you a link to that?

kilkenny31

I see a lot of people posting here about the test figures and how nothing can be read from them because the criteria changed. Look at it this way. The criteria changed so that people needed to have more symptoms to get tested. But all that matteres is that we are catching a good chunk of people that are sick. Asymptomatic people or people who have mild symptoms are very unlikely to need hospital care anyway so catching those doesn't matter so much while we are all in relative lockdown anyway. Further down the road when we want to get the country moving again it matters to test as many people as possible. The fact that our numbers have plateaued at the 200-300 mark is good.

Tom Mann Centuria

The UK National Theatre are going to start streaming one of their plays every Thursday evening on YouTube, might be of interest to some, and a nice break from the news.


https://www.timeout.com/london/news/the-national-theatre-is-going-to-stream-a-free-play-every-thursday-night-032620

bekker

Carbon125 wrote: »

Fake news.

"Hessian finance minister Thomas Schäfer (CDU) was found dead on Saturday."

Motive unknown.

Presume you mean inaccurate headline, not fake news.

MadYaker

294 new cases yesterday and 200 today. At least its still showing a downward trend for now. I'm guessing thats going to change in the next few days though.

iguana

murpho999 wrote: »

Makes complete sense and if you had persistent systems then you ring and get tested.

No. If you had persistent symptoms but no underlying health issue or no confirmed close contact you just stay home and isolate. You will not be tested unless you become so severely ill that you need hospital. And you need to be excessively bad to be admitted to hospital.

All of that only makes sense because our capacity for testing is woefully low. What makes sense it to do as the WHO have advised and test, test, test.

dougm1970

the cases from italy that were sent to germany....do they become part of germanys figures ?

BanditLuke

tobefrank321 wrote: »

FFS.

People were demanding flights from Northern Italy be grounded in early March until a plan was in place to bring Irish citizens only home in a controlled manner that involved temperature and symptom checks at the very least. These people were ignored by the government. If only the government listened then we'd have avoided a large number of cases and resulting deaths.

The government tried to press on with St Patricks Day Parades and critcised towns who cancelled theres.

People demanded school closures, the government hesitated.

It was obvious nursing homes were a major risk and people were saying that staff were not wearing the nessecay PPE. Ignored. Holohan even wanted to life visitor restrictions. People's criticisms again ignored.

People have been saying for weeks our lockdown has been a farce with no consequences for those who break it. Ignored.

Now people are saying its madness to allow flights in from London and New York without screening or mandatory supervised isolation. Ignored.

People said going ahead with Cheltenham was crazy. The government didn't even bother issuing a travel advisory on that one, not that anyone takes Irish government travel advisories seriously.

And on and on. You clearly haven't been paying attention to the inaction of our government from the start.

Their actions have come very late and too late for those in ICU or worse.

Who do you think you are coming on here and pointing out home truths like that?

Didn't you get the memo, FG are doing an outstanding job haven't you heard Varadkars movie sound bites?