CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

fritzelly · 29-03-2020 02:23AM

givyjoe wrote: »

But but but, masks don't help...

https://twitter.com/patphelan/status/1244010733714788352?s=19

Is there anything the WHO have said that they have not backtracked on?

Tippex · 29-03-2020 02:25AM

givyjoe wrote: »

But but but, masks don't help...

https://twitter.com/patphelan/status/1244010733714788352?s=19

Well apart from china being the outlier in the NO Masks section

ThePopehimself · 29-03-2020 02:25AM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-25-year-old-dies-riverside-county-la-quinta/
A 25 year old pharmacist in Los Angeles with no underlying health conditions has died

That's awful. just awful to read. RIP.

Coyote · 29-03-2020 02:26AM

MipMap wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

Go to testing

As of 23 March, 17,992 tests had been carried out.[71]

at 2K testing a day that would be around 28K tests done now

LaFuton · 29-03-2020 02:26AM

still nobody talking about the american military officials, chinese hotel staff, afflicted with this 20 meters from the infamous market last october or the exact same thing being called a vaping problem in the u.s. last july....

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 02:27AM

New phone tracking app coming

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Sam Quentin · 29-03-2020 02:28AM

givyjoe wrote: »

But but but, masks don't help...

https://twitter.com/patphelan/status/1244010733714788352?s=19

It's so obvious that masks are a plus a positive add-on. And what can multiply this PLUS is if everyone wears a mask...

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 02:31AM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

It's so obvious that masks are a plus a positive add-on. And what can multiply this PLUS is if everyone wears a mask...

The reason governments in Europe have been urging against it is because they fear lack of supply for medical staff.

Proper masks are obviously beneficial to the public.

fifth · 29-03-2020 02:32AM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

It's so obvious that masks are a plus a positive add-on. And what can multiply this PLUS is if everyone wears a mask...

Where are people getting their masks from? Haven't been able to find any. Or hand sanitiser. Since the start of all of this.

Wolf359f · 29-03-2020 02:32AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

Does anyone have an up to date number of test carried out and processed in Ireland?

They publish them weekly:
upto 3/3: 461
10/3: 1924 (average 209/day)
17/3: 6636 (average 671/day)
24/3: 17992 (average 1622/day)

Atlantic Dawn · 29-03-2020 02:34AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

New phone tracking app coming

Can it be disabled?

pH · 29-03-2020 02:34AM

LaFuton wrote: »

still nobody talking about the american military officials, chinese hotel staff, afflicted with this 20 meters from the infamous market last october or the exact same thing being called a vaping problem in the u.s. last july....

I'm sure there are (people talking about these crackpot theories) in conspiracy theory forums all over the internets.

MipMap · 29-03-2020 02:35AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Is there anything the WHO have said that they have not backtracked on?

Only a complete holocaust denier could still follow the idea that masks don't help.
Masks are in short supply and are needed by the front line staff.
This has always been the reason why we are told that they are not necessary.

1.4 Billion Chinese are not wrong.
Japan,Korea, Belgium, Spain, China look at the footage - Are they all idiots?

Did they not hear the advise of the HSE?

"We are not, at this moment, recommending the wearing of masks, as ther is no evidence to suggest that they materially affect the transmission of this virus"

"We are in critical need of PPE equipment for our front line staff, Masks, Gowns ,Gloves "

PLEASE Give me a break!!!

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 02:35AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Can it be disabled?

By not signing up for it, yes.

humberklog · 29-03-2020 02:38AM

I was in SE Asia (mostly Vietnam) for most of Jan/Feb this year. On face masks- the government send you text messages (easily google translated) and while they insisted everyone dealing with the public wears them they warn to the general population/visitors that it's best to wear them but don't get complacent.
The worry is (to that government) is that face masks lead to complacency and that same message was relayed to me by many people I met. They stop the spread but only if vigilance to general/hand hygiene is adhered to.

I left that part of the world a few weeks ago with "complacency will kill you" still ringing in my ears.

Coyote · 29-03-2020 02:38AM

MipMap wrote: »

Only a complete holocaust denier could still follow the idea that masks don't help.
Masks are in short supply and are needed by the front line staff.
This has always been the reason why we are told that they are not necessary.

1.4 Billion Chinese are not wrong.
Japan,Korea, Belgium, Spain, China look at the footage - Are they all idiots?

Did they not hear the advise of the HSE?

"We are not, at this moment, recommending the wearing of masks, as ther is no evidence to suggest that they materially affect the transmission of this virus"

"We are in critical need of PPE equipment for our front line staff, Masksd, Gowns ,Gloves "

PLEASE Give me a break!!!

A total of 11 million masks, one million face shields and one million goggles for workers are on order.

https://www.thejournal.ie/hse-coronavirus-tests-5054225-Mar2020/

this brings up an intresting questions what are they going to use 11 million mask for, can't be for the HSE can it?
send them out to every house in Ireland?

Coyote

cameramonkey · 29-03-2020 02:38AM

MipMap wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

Go to testing

As of 23 March, 17,992 tests had been carried out.[71]

Very very low rate of testing. If we assume they started testing around the 28 of Feb or before . About 700 per day, pretty shocking really.

Atlantic Dawn · 29-03-2020 02:40AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

Very very low rate of testing. If we assume they started testing around the 28 of Feb or before . About 700 per day, pretty shocking really.

Is the delay with taking the samples or actual analysis of the samples that is the delay?

kowloon · 29-03-2020 02:40AM

MipMap wrote: »

By "Taking up the Slack" do you mean "Dying in Agony"

Yes, it was meant sardonically.

Coyote · 29-03-2020 02:41AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

Very very low rate of testing. If we assume they started testing around the 28 of Feb or before . About 700 per day, pretty shocking really.

Ireland rate of testing is not very low compared to the rest of the EU

some comparison
France has 2314 deaths but only recorded 37,575 cases
France has 64 times as many deaths but only 15 times as many cases as Ireland, if Frances confirmed cases matched Ireland with death rate they would have 148K cases

Netherlands and Belgium are other interesting comparison
both have about 9-10K cases but Netherlands have twice as many deaths
and the the Netherlands has 4 times as many deaths as S.Korea if there cases matched SK they should have 40K cases

cameramonkey · 29-03-2020 02:42AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is the delay with taking the samples or actual analysis of the samples that is the delay?

i have no idea. The government said last week they were testing 2000 per day and ramping up to 5000 if I remember correctly but they are at about 700 per day average it seems.

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 02:42AM

Fine Gael popularity surges to 34% from 21% in a poll in tomorrow's SBP.

Mervyn Skidmore · 29-03-2020 02:43AM

Coyote wrote: »

A total of 11 million masks, one million face shields and one million goggles for workers are on order.

https://www.thejournal.ie/hse-coronavirus-tests-5054225-Mar2020/

this brings up an intresting questions what are they going to use 11 million mask for, can't be for the HSE can it?
send them out to every house in Ireland?

Coyote

HSE. They're disposable.

cameramonkey · 29-03-2020 02:44AM

Coyote wrote: »

Ireland rate of testing is not very low compared to the rest of the EU

What are you basing that statement on?

beolight · 29-03-2020 02:45AM

Coyote wrote: »

I don't believe they did it to hide anything, but too many people who just had a cough or sore throat were being booked in by GP
to get a test now you have to have some symptoms, fever being a large part as well as other. this is better as you are more chance to find the people who have covid19 and not have the system blocked up by 1,000's who just are not feeling 100%

Real reason is lack of reagent needed for the kits hence they need to reserve what they have for most likely cases......but if you want another reason which played into this......Don’t forget the €30 fee HSE agreed with Doctors for Doctor consult over the phone it seems the HSE are only paying it for referred cases.
I’m sure we will soon hear some dissenting voices from Doctors about fielding all these calls for nothing

One thing that is puzzling me is how are you meant to know if you have been in contact with a confirmed case

MipMap · 29-03-2020 02:46AM

humberklog wrote: »

I was in SE Asia (mostly Vietnam) for most of Jan/Feb this year. On face masks- the government send you text messages (easily google translated) and while they insisted everyone dealing with the public wears them they warn to the general population/visitors that it's best to wear them but don't get complacent.
The worry is (to that government) is that face masks lead to complacency and that same message was relayed to me by many people I met. They stop the spread but only if vigilance to general/hand hygiene is adhered to.

I left that part of the world a few weeks ago with "complacency will kill you" still ringing in my ears.

Accepted but the complacency argument is a bit lame. "Don't wear a mask cos you might think it protects you cos it doesn't that much. Maybe you are so stupid you won't wash your hands"

Nonsense - Masks are in Short Supply

Read this:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30134-X/fulltext

Sam Quentin · 29-03-2020 02:46AM

fifth wrote: »

Where are people getting their masks from? Haven't been able to find any. Or hand sanitiser. Since the start of all of this.

There is lots of recipes online for hand sanitizer spray online,pick one that suits, buying ingredients etc... Also you should be able to find basic masks in any diy hardware or even pound shop..
Good luck hope you find some.. tight cotton neck scarves seem pretty popular also.

Muahahaha · 29-03-2020 02:46AM

threeball wrote: »

That wasn't my point. But I don't expect us to keep many of the units made. We will keep some. People in Galway are not going to risk getting coronavirus so the product they make bypasses their granny and goes to trump. If that happens I expect they'll down tools and go home.

Its been posted here that half of the world supply of ventilators are made by Medtronic in Galway and they annoucned that they're increassing production by 50%. They never said that any of them are available to the HSE so next week we're going to see photos of military planes landing in Shannon and Knock picking them up

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I think we need to have some trust. The HSE changed their testing criteria because they could cope with the number of people waiting on test and the positive results they were getting back were less than 10% so they changed the criteria so that they would hopefully get more positive cases from the tests that they were doing.

Never doubt the HSEs ability and engage in a cover up, it is literally their go-to position whenever the sh1t hits the fan. Cervical Check was only the most recent cover up in a long, long line of cover ups. Whats worse is that they spend millions in taxpayers money through the courts in an attempt to cover up the cover up.

Atlantic Dawn · 29-03-2020 02:52AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fine Gael popularity surges to 34% from 21% in a poll in tomorrow's SBP.

Was that taken before or after the lockdown of citizens currently living in Ireland that was announced yesterday (excluding the 5k plus people arriving in the airports per day) ?

sheepsh4gger · 29-03-2020 02:53AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

New phone tracking app coming

how about print that is legible

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03