When and how will it end?

sallyanne12 · 28-03-2020 12:52am #1

When do people think the coronavirus situation will end and what will happen to end it? Do people think it will disappear or what will happen?

begbysback · 28-03-2020 12:54am

Vaccine will be ready by 8 weeks, as you were

Montage of Feck · 28-03-2020 12:56am

There'll be a morning where you'll wake up to Leo Veradkar staring at you from the screen of your virtual assistant/connected device wondering how it all came to this....

Plumbthedepths · 28-03-2020 12:59am

Basically when policy makers have decided the majority good outweighs the minority. Roughly another 4 weeks. The elderly and the vulnerable will be asked to cocoon. The rest of us will be expected to help jump start the economy.

LaFuton · 28-03-2020 1:01am

keep thinkin of that old movie cocoon when ever this old people must cocoon is peddled

Purple Mountain · 28-03-2020 1:02am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Basically when policy makers have decided the majority good outweighs the minority. Roughly another 4 weeks. The elderly and the vulnerable will be asked to cocoon. The rest of us will be expected to help jump start the economy.

If this will be the case, then why not now?

fryup · 28-03-2020 1:02am

When Tom Cruise comes to save us, its one big movie don't you know

Purple Mountain · 28-03-2020 1:02am

fryup wrote: »

When Tom Cruise comes to save us, its one big movie don't you know

Truman Show.

RandomViewer · 28-03-2020 1:04am

sallyanne12 wrote: »

When do people think the coronavirus situation will end and what will happen to end it? Do people think it will disappear or what will happen?

We are still in the climbing phase, Lots of twits went away last weekend , up to Dublin, some to London, Fxxk knows who they came into contact there and since, mountains ,beaches and forests were mobbed last weekend so more cases kicking off next weekend, my guess is late in the year, lockdown here to May or June or even later, things will be dull but the house will be gleaming

sheepsh4gger · 28-03-2020 1:05am

sallyanne12 wrote: »

When do people think the coronavirus situation will end and what will happen to end it? Do people think it will disappear or what will happen?

This is my prediction, I bet I will be proven right:
- This won't really end. They might re-open after Easter but that's exactly when the disease will return.

- There will be shortages of pretty much everything once things are reopen. It takes 4 weeks for anything to arrive from China.
- There will probably be another lockdown in November as the virus usually returns in winter - total mess again.
- The US economy will go into depression, there will be a lot of 'dead cat' bounces along the way. It was already a house of cards before the virus.
- people will start using infrared cameras everywhere like at Asian airports to see who is sick
- Public places will finally be cleaned properly like a crime scene. People will start washing hands. It will be normal to wear a mask in public.

Harry Palmr · 28-03-2020 1:06am

begbysback wrote: »

Vaccine will be ready by 18 months, as you were

FYP

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:07am

begbysback wrote: »

Vaccine will be ready by 8 weeks, as you were

I gather that’s the official position

In Narnia ....

28-03-2020 1:09am

Vaccine in three months. roll-out of the vaccine another two months. Six months by the time everyone is treated.

A year later, a mutated version of covid appears. Some risk but is handled much quicker.

I honestly don't think it will end. We're going to be seeing more of these kind of viruses appearing.

sheepsh4gger · 28-03-2020 1:10am

I'd say it will take 2 years to go back to normal. A lot of zombie businesses like GE will collapse and businesses will start caring about hygiene finally. Governments will keep a strategic stockpile of everything to prevent future shortages.

At the other end of this mess we will end up with a more stable and sane global economy, better conditions for staff and customers on the business side of things.

28-03-2020 1:12am

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

- There will be shortages of pretty much everything once things are reopen. It takes 4 weeks for anything to arrive from China.

Not to derail but inaccurate. I got a box of masks on Wednesday after two weeks (a gift from my university). it's hit and miss apparently. Some packages are getting through... it really depends on which flight routes are shut down.

28-03-2020 1:13am

It’s hard to see any end in sight unless a vaccine comes along or the illness mutates into something even less severe.

Most likely we’ll simply have to go back to normal and take the hit.

And by take the hit, I mean possibly a good few thousand could die.

28-03-2020 1:13am

When Hulk Hogan decides to bodyslam the Coronavirus, in a one-on-one, 'winner take all' match for the ages.

Plumbthedepths · 28-03-2020 1:15am

Purple Mountain wrote: »

If this will be the case, then why not now?

The health service needs to be able to play catch up that's what the two weeks are about although I suspect they will try to extend it by an extra week. All my extended family have our parents cocooned this last two weeks. It sucks for them but they understand.

sheepsh4gger · 28-03-2020 1:18am

Deleted User wrote: »

Not to derail but inaccurate. I got a box of masks on Wednesday after two weeks (a gift from my university). it's hit and miss apparently. Some packages are getting through... it really depends on which flight routes are shut down.

Flight? I think most stuff arrives by boat as it's cheaper. Are the ports open?

I ordered say a Baofeng UHF radio and it still hasn't arrived.

RandomViewer · 28-03-2020 1:19am

Deleted User wrote: »

When Hulk Hogan decides to bodyslam the Coronavirus, in a one-on-one, 'winner take all' match for the ages.

Donald Trump presents live from the White House lawn , McGregor on the under card facing off against Clyde from Any which way but loose,

Hamsterchops · 28-03-2020 1:24am

begbysback wrote: »

Vaccine will be ready by 8 weeks, as you were

Eight weeks, really?
Excellent, all back to normal by summertime

sheepsh4gger · 28-03-2020 1:25am

For this to really end for good they need to stop eating wild animals in China.
That actually makes me think what about all these places here that sell wild game.

Pencil Neck · 28-03-2020 1:26am

About tree fiddy

28-03-2020 1:27am

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Flight? I think most stuff arrives by boat as it's cheaper. Are the ports open?

Couriers. I wouldn't trust normal post through/from China at the best of times. My parents once sent me a selection of Chocolate goodies from Ireland to China... never arrived. Around the world, and back to them after 8 months.

28-03-2020 1:29am

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

For this to really end for good they need to stop eating wild animals in China.
That actually makes me think what about all these places here that sell wild game.

Might want to add a large part of Africa, Asia and South America too. Wet markets are pretty common around the world outside of the 1st world nations. As is eating weird meats.

RandomViewer · 28-03-2020 1:30am

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Eight weeks, really?
Excellent, all back to normal by summertime

Don't think they are figuring the logistics of developing ,producing and vaccinating billions of people.

completedit · 28-03-2020 1:31am

Economic reality begins to get the headlines as we become immune to the death tolls. The majority begin to push for a return to normal life as Summer approaches.

Staggered return to employment with people working from home for the next 6 months, but also going into the office which now have rules regarding social distancing which last beyond the initial panic period.

babybuilder · 28-03-2020 1:32am

No vaccine till next year. I'd give it two cycles each cycle being 3 weeks. So that's six weeks till the lock down is lifted at a minimum. Why six? Well the outermost limit to developing symptoms from infection is 21 days. So from first lock down that's 3 weeks. One cycle. Then another cycle of 3 weeks to see if spike is receding. Its all about the trend on the graph over a period of time. Then factor in latency or lag and quality of enforcement. For example, health workers infecting the community. Lots of variables. Probably early to mid summer at the earliest. As long as it doesn't mutate.

Jeju · 28-03-2020 1:33am

It's my belief and I am a modest person of simple beliefs that to defeat this virus we all have to get it, fight it and hope for the best outcome. This is not an option for elderly or people with underlying conditions that we are all aware of and also it now seems overweight and obese people of all ages. This is a disease of the first world, those who live in isolation and poverty will probably not succumb to it a kind of reversal of the Live Aid of the 80s. We have the science and will power to come to a solution in preventing or curing COVID19, until then I'm remaining pessimistic as to condition myself for the worse but hope for the best.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:33am

I think ultimately we will have to risk the herd immunity route while attempting to “ cocoon “ the vulnerable

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:35am

Jeju wrote: »

It's my belief and I am a modest person of simple beliefs that to defeat this virus we all have to get it, fight it and hope for the best outcome. This is not an option for elderly or people with underlying conditions that we are all aware of and also it now seems overweight and obese people of all ages. This is a disease of the first world, those who live in isolation and poverty will probably not succumb to it a kind of reversal of the Live Aid of the 80s. We have the science and will power to come to a solution in preventing or curing COVID19, until then I'm remaining pessimistic as to condition for the worse but hope for the best.

What , it’s expected to devastate Africa , it’s a disease that particularly affects the poorest , or have you missed the reports about covid and refugee camps

28-03-2020 1:38am

Its a frigging disaster, I have no idea when this sh1t will end. But please god soon.

RandomViewer · 28-03-2020 1:38am

By early June we'll probably have 50 to 60 thousand recovered, reinvention is unlikely so I'd assume these people would take up their jobs again, and the same the next month ,

Jeju · 28-03-2020 1:39am

BoatMad wrote: »

What , it’s expected to devastate Africa , it’s a disease that particularly affects the poorest , or have you missed the reports about covid and refugee camps

Poor people dont usually travel and now tourists wont be travelling to locations of poverty.

Empty_Space · 28-03-2020 1:42am

It ends when you stop pretending to breathe, for this is all an illusion.

sheepsh4gger · 28-03-2020 1:43am

Jeju wrote: »

It's my belief and I am a modest person of simple beliefs that to defeat this virus we all have to get it, fight it and hope for the best outcome. This is not an option for elderly or people with underlying conditions that we are all aware of and also it now seems overweight and obese people of all ages. This is a disease of the first world, those who live in isolation and poverty will probably not succumb to it a kind of reversal of the Live Aid of the 80s. We have the science and will power to come to a solution in preventing or curing COVID19, until then I'm remaining pessimistic as to condition myself for the worse but hope for the best.

Once enough healthy people get it there will be a vaccine for the elderly.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:43am

Jeju wrote: »

Poor people dont usually travel and now tourists wont be travelling to locations of poverty.

It’s already present on every continent except Antarctica , are you simply not reading any authoritative stuff in this

The first world is actually able to limit deaths , it will be devastating for poor regions

And the first world will develop a vaccine , you think , say Africans will get that fast .....

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:44am

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Once enough healthy people get it there will be a vaccine for the elderly.

I think you might mean antibodies

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:45am

6541 wrote: »

Its a frigging disaster, I have no idea when this sh1t will end. But please god soon.

Not ending soon , certainly not before June

Jeju · 28-03-2020 1:47am

BoatMad wrote: »

It’s already present on every continent except Antarctica , are you simply not reading any authoritative stuff in this

The first world is actually able to limit deaths , it will be devastating for poor regions

And the first world will develop a vaccine , you think , say Africans will get that fast .....

True.... they will have to fight this themselves with no assistance.

RandomViewer · 28-03-2020 1:47am

BoatMad wrote: »

I think you might mean antibodies

What I think they are hinting at is that if healthy people in their 20 s and 30 s start dying things will progress quicker

thebaz · 28-03-2020 1:47am

BoatMad wrote: »

I think ultimately we will have to risk the herd immunity route while attempting to “ cocoon “ the vulnerable

I would say that is the plan - with a vaccine 12 months away at best - they want to flatten the curve so as to reduce the load on the health services - be tough - as other medical emergencies also need to be treated - heart attack/ cancer treatment etc.

Once the anti-body test become readily available - May time, we will understand how many people have in fact been infected with many being assymptomatic.

no.8 · 28-03-2020 1:56am

sheepsh4gger wrote:

I'd say it will take 2 years to go back to normal. A lot of zombie businesses like GE will collapse and businesses will start caring about hygiene finally. Governments will keep a strategic stockpile of everything to prevent future shortages.

General Electric are going to collapse? I best inform them

28-03-2020 1:59am

Jeju wrote: »

True.... they will have to fight this themselves with no assistance.

Rubbish. They're already getting assistance. You think the UN, and the WHO have focused their attentions entirely on the wealthy nations? Even China has got involved in sending equipment (admittedly dodgy), and personnel to other Asian countries and Africa to help.

Poor countries will face a serious danger but they're not completely alone. They are receiving resources that will help them to save more lives than they could have done without. Is it enough? Not a chance, but realistically, it wouldn't be enough even if covid hadn't spread to Europe or the US.

28-03-2020 2:01am

no.8 wrote: »

General Electric are going to collapse? I best inform them

Highly doubtful. One of the most successful companies of all time collapse? haha.. they probably have one of the best types of business infrastructure to survive such a scenario.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 28-03-2020 2:23am

When are the pubs even have a chance of reopening...June...July...?

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 2:30am

Pheonix10 wrote: »

When are the pubs even have a chance of reopening...June...July...?

If we take China as an example , maybe 3-4 months , could be sooner, could be later

Legalfarmer89 · 28-03-2020 2:35am

BoatMad wrote: »

I think ultimately we will have to risk the herd immunity route while attempting to “ cocoon “ the vulnerable

I am thinking something like this. I just don't think the Country can stay in a lockdown for 6-8 months to totally contain the virus and it doesn't look like a vaccine will be developed by then. The lockdown will probably be four weeks, essentially April. I think that the Country will be back partially during May/June but not everything will be back(i.e. offices will still be encouraged/told to work from home where possible/ social distancing will be enforced/ sporting events will be behind closed doors and not back till probably September/ pubs will probably not be allowed back till August/September and at that there will probably be limits to people in the pubs and I'm not sure that the coming out of the lockdown will be the great big piss up some people envisage that it is gong to be ).

I could be wrong on all of the above however!

I suppose we will have to look to Korea to see where they are going with their measures as they seem to be having some kind of success against the disease and flattened the curve, Germany and Israel seem to be doing good also. China too seems to have flattened the curve but you just cant compare China to Ireland.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 2:40am

Legalfarmer89 wrote: »

I am thinking something like this. I just don't think the Country can stay in a lockdown for 6-8 months to totally contain the virus and it doesn't look like a vaccine will be developed by then. The lockdown will probably be four weeks, essentially April. I think that the Country will be back partially during May/June but not everything will be back(i.e. offices will still be encouraged/told to work from home where possible/ social distancing will be enforced/ sporting events will be behind closed doors and not back till probably September/ pubs will probably not be allowed back till August/September and at that there will probably be limits to people in the pubs and I'm not sure that the coming out of the lockdown will be the great big piss up some people envisage that it is gong to be ).

I could be wrong on all of the above however!

I suppose we will have to look to Korea to see where they are going with their measures as they seem to be having some kind of success against the disease and flattened the curve, Germany and Israel seem to be doing good also. China too seems to have flattened the curve but you just cant compare China to Ireland.

Germany has one of the largest ICU bed capacity per capita in the world , we do not , the outcomes will be very asymmetric , just like Italy

faceman · 28-03-2020 3:00am

A lot of panic in this thread. Remember the lockdown is a good thing. Someone mentioned it already in this thread, you have to look at how the virus operates. It takes 2-3 weeks to materialise, therefore we lockdown for that period. Limit spread. If numbers are flattening by then, the government will consider its next move. Speculating, as a previous poster pointed out, they will likely extend another couple of weeks if evidence of flattening is apparent.

What helps? The general public playing our part by social distancing properly. That’s up to us. Not the government or the Gardai.

If there is no improvement that’s when things become a concern. It means we continue to lockdown.

In reality, an indefinite lockdown is not sustainable. There’s not a hope in hell of a lockdown like this in to the summer and beyond. Aside from the global economic perspective, there would be public unrest.

Finally, regarding virus mutation and annual reoccurrences, scientists have already broken down the virus’s genetic code and found that it doesn’t mutate the same way as the flu. Therefore it’s highly unlikely we will need a new vaccination every year. Although there is a theory that if the virus did mutate (which can be triggered when a virus has no new hosts to infect), it could become more contagious but less lethal. Something seen in many other viruses.

That’s my 2c. Is it a scary time? Hell yes. But it’s temporary and we will come out of it. Not all at once, but we will. But for now, we follow the rule of law as best we can. Something the vast majority of people are doing.

firemansam4 · 28-03-2020 3:57am

BoatMad wrote:

I think ultimately we will have to risk the herd immunity route while attempting to â€œ cocoon â€œ the vulnerable

One thing that worries many is that this virus may be more far spread than we realise due to many people having little to no real symptoms from it.

But I'm wondering if this is actually a good thing, and it means that more people will get immunity to it in the future.

When and how will it end?

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