CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

at9qu5vp0wcix7 · 27-03-2020 11:22PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Just got an email saying we are staying open. Medical device company but more cosmetic. Massive employer though.

Reckless from this company IMO - it is purely a cosmetic product for foreign markets.

kmart6 · 27-03-2020 11:22PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What EXACTLY does cocooning mean? Can someone please explain to me?

Ace2007 wrote: »

Google it - you will get less stupid replies

Or read the official guidance....

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1243661201495724035?s=19

Ghost Train · 27-03-2020 11:22PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What EXACTLY does cocooning mean? Can someone please explain to me?

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/guidance/vulnerablegroupsguidance/COVID-19%20Guidance%20for%20extremely%20medically%20vulnerable%20V1.pdf

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/923825-guidance-on-cocooning-to-protect-people-over-70-years-and-those-extr/

Red for Danger · 27-03-2020 11:22PM

12th of April ðŸ€£ðŸ€£ðŸ€£ people are living in fantasy land

How is the irish lockdown going to be finished before other European countries in the thick of it

Palmach · 27-03-2020 11:23PM

BoatMad wrote: »

No it’s not , because the Gardaí now have specific powers and a well defined set of limits. ( fir example husband and wife in car , Nono, where do you live , there a supermarket over there , good evening can yiu show me proof of your address , you are 8km away from home , two or more people together and clearly am adult and kids , nono , etc)
These new rules are clearly designed to be enforced and enforceable

The Minister has not signed off on the regulations. So in effect these are a request and are currently unenforceable by the Gardai . This is the right approach and?I think most people will get behind it. I would be less inclined to follow some guy in a uniform bellowing orders at me.

BoatMad · 27-03-2020 11:23PM

con747 wrote: »

Try that out in the arsehole of beyond! Maybe in the cities.

Then yiu drive , taxi , walk or have it delivered , what’s your point

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 11:23PM

Be right back wrote: »

And if there is, the area might only have a couple of bus runs in a day.

If you are in a rural area, and have no transport links - but you have the internet which would clearly do - go onto the local facebook page - or local GAA page, and say that you need food, have no transport can anyone help - and you will get plenty of people helping - it's happening all over the country.

However you may prefer to come onto a public forum and complain how every last possible thing, what if this happens, what if the taxi breaks down, what if I need my windows cleaned, etc. Dare I say there is nothing Leo could have said/done tonight that you would have been happy with.

con747 · 27-03-2020 11:24PM

paul71 wrote: »

The reality is local Gardai will be fully aware of that.

And do what?

Cork Boy 53 · 27-03-2020 11:24PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What EXACTLY does cocooning mean? Can someone please explain to me?

Basically people over the age of 70 an those in high risk categories are not allowed to leave their homes under any circumstances bar emergencies.

bekker · 27-03-2020 11:24PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What EXACTLY does cocooning mean? Can someone please explain to me?

No, the power-that-be haven't worked it out yet.

Suspect it's way down the list of things they haven't worked out yet.

Need a Username · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What EXACTLY does cocooning mean? Can someone please explain to me?

Most likely no one using the word knows.

Like lockdown, backstop, etc.

It is like the Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone goes along with the auld buzzwords

27-03-2020 11:25PM

dummy_crusher wrote: »

I've been saying it the last while...

Implement more restrictive measures when ICU capacity is being threatened. They are clearly worried by the increase in the last few days, which, if it continues as such will saturate the capacity quite quickly. Given another couple of weeks, when we know exactly where we stand with transmission rates, the restrictions may be lifted. Expect them to be imposed again if rates or ICU capacity is at a dangerous level in the future.

An Imperial College London paper suggests that you are talking of restrictive measures more often than not in this scenario. 2/3 to 1/3 ratio measures to no measures was suggested. God knows how the education sector would function in such a scenario if schools/uni’s were called on to repeatedly close as part of it.

Achasanai · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I just remembered , I’ve a bit of stuff being delivered to parcel motel over the coming week , most of it is in transit. Suppose I can’t collect it but WTF are they going to do now? A lot of stuff is gonna be sent back......

Is there a shop nearby? Combine it with your grocery run?

Turtwig · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

bekker wrote: »

No, the power-that-be haven't worked it out yet.

Suspect it's way down the list of things they haven't worked out yet.

They've an extensive document published on it.

paul71 · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

con747 wrote: »

And do what?

And do nothing, wave them on.

Funsterdelux · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

12th of April &#55356;&#56355;&#55356;&#56355;&#55356;&#56355; people are living in fantasy land

How is the irish lockdown going to be finished before other European countries in the thick of it

They have to put a date on these things, we all know its going to go on longer

Spanish Eyes · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

there are no buses in a lot of rural areas.

Well there are cars. Everyone rurally has them. What's the problem here.

Live rurally, your choice to spread this thing or not. Same as everywhere else.

Personal responsibility needs to be hammered home.

Cilldara_2000 · 27-03-2020 11:27PM

bekker wrote: »

No, the power-that-be haven't worked it out yet.

Suspect it's way down the list of things they haven't worked out yet.

Yes they have. See links already posted.

Signore Fancy Pants · 27-03-2020 11:27PM

Nermal wrote: »

The reason a 2KM limit is attracting criticism is because it's transparently a figure picked from thin air, merely because a figure had to be given.

France implimented a 2km rule 7 days ago.

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 11:27PM

con747 wrote: »

And do what?

Why do you care so much?

Like be honest here - why can't you just follow the rules like everyone else?

Why not respect the Garda - they have a tough job to do nowadays - with all sort of crap going on - they don't need you or anyone else trying to be smart on the roads.

pgj2015 · 27-03-2020 11:28PM

I wonder what all the attention seekers who were wearing the gloves and masks will do now for attention?

one guy i know usually goes for 1 walk a day, i saw him at least 6 times walking one day last week, its important for some people to prove how great they are by following the rules.

con747 · 27-03-2020 11:28PM

BoatMad wrote: »

Then yiu drive , taxi , walk or have it delivered , what’s your point

Well if you live miles from a shop and have no car please explain how you go to the shop. Taxi's cost money. not all shops in all locations deliver. That is my point. You will have to hope people can and will assist you. Tell that to the elderly who are afraid tonight.

Monumental · 27-03-2020 11:28PM

Gael23 wrote: »

I think it’s a step too far taking away people’s freedom

It's a given so that you have no grandparents ,parents ,siblings or friends .Grow up !

Tippex · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What EXACTLY does cocooning mean? Can someone please explain to me?

Take a look here https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AEdewy4J4AHOCbA&cid=EB0DD94899264603&id=EB0DD94899264603%2117533&parId=EB0DD94899264603%2117527&o=OneUp

Need a Username · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Why is it so hard for people to do just do what they are told?

Bus are only running for those who need them to get to essential service work - like nurses/doctors and all the rest. They are not for joe soap to take a wander into town for a look around.

You'd swear that the government are asking to say goodbye to your loves ones, because they are sending you out to fight ISIS...

All anyone is asking is for you stay at home...

Why is is it so hard for people to not get their knickers in a twist ?

That is very long post you made considering you didn’t have the answers to my questions. Nothing better to do except bitch and moan?

Monumental · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Gael23 wrote: »

I think it’s a step too far taking away people’s freedom

It's a given so that you have no grandparents ,parents ,siblings or friends .Grow up !

Snow Garden · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Need a Username wrote: »

Most likely no one using the word knows.

Like lockdown, backstop, etc.

It is like the Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone goes along with the auld buzzwords

Yeah backstop; never quiet got that one but I tuned out of Brexit at the end of 2018!

jam_mac_jam · 27-03-2020 11:30PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

I wonder what all the attention seekers who were wearing the gloves and masks will do now for attention?

one guy i know usually goes for 1 walk a day, i saw him at least 6 times walking one day last week, its important for some people to prove how great they are by following the rules.

Jesus christ maybe they are scared or compromised, maybe it's not about impressing you?

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 11:30PM

Bob24 wrote: »

Rents might not rise in absolute terms but they will rise in percentage of disposable income.

I fail to see the relevance of that.

I actually think helicopter money will happen as politically it is a very easy sale (“give the money to the people instead of giving it to the rich”). And to be clear I perfectly understand that feeling and indeed agree QE, low rates, repo operations all benefit to people with expensive assets. But while it will feel good at first I am convinced it will not serve “the people” in the end as it will destroy the value of currency and thus of their savings and pensions; while never really helping them because as I said the value of money is relative to what others have so if everyone gets more no one really has more purchasing power.

It is highly unlikely that the "value" of large currencies will be destroyed. The US has a broad money supply of 15,438,700,000,000. The Euro M3 is 13,147,011,000,000. Throwing a few billion into current accounts would make little difference. In fact the money supply falls in a recession over time as people earn less and pay back loans, if they can.

There isn't much difference anyway, in a government borrowing a few billion and giving it in rent subsidy and those bonds then being monetized by QE, compared to doing it directly. The transmission mechanism is just faster with helicopter money but money is being printed anyway.

Your assumption that 1000 euro per month given to everybody would cause an equivalent price increase equal to 1000 euro across all products is unfounded, as it assumes the supply of all goods are inelastic.

edit:

We should perhaps use another thread for this.

El Weirdo · 27-03-2020 11:30PM

Holy shit, reading some of the questions regarding the new restrictions on here, you have to wonder should we be more worried of the downright stupidity of people than this fucking virus.

I mean, it's not rocket surgery, is it?

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03