CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

Blut2 wrote: »

Has there been any coverage in the media yet of the new report by a working group of Italian doctors from the Italian Istituto Superiore di Sanità (Higher Institute of Health)? They last night just released the first detailed report on covid deaths so far in the country. Its got a couple of very interesting highlights:



Heres the age ranges of deaths: essentially non-existent for under 40s. 9 total people under 40. Of that 9, they tested 7 for underlying conditions, and 100% had them - either debates, obesity etc. Not a single healthy person under 40 has died from it.

And here are the overall deaths, across all age ranges:



This is part is absolutely key. Only 1.2% of Italian deaths, across all age ranges, had no underlying health conditions (diabetes, COPD etc). It looks like its not only just not killing young people, its not killing healthy old people.

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_26_marzo_eng.pdf

It seems like this is pretty huge, positive news? Once it gets wider media coverage I'd imagine we'll see a lot of pressure to lift quarantines for the not-at-risk sections of society.

shocksy wrote: »

Lombardy, Italy’s most affected region, has confirmed 541 new coronavirus deaths in the last 24 hours. It’s a 24 hour death record for the region. The total results for Italy are expected at 6 p.m. (Reuters)

Also 45 doctors have died since the outbreak in Italy

otnomart wrote: »

It is an amazing sight.
I also reading in the Guardian now that there are also backup plans for two more field hospitals in exhibition centres in Birmingham and Manchester.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/excel-coronavirus-hospital-will-be-by-far-the-largest-in-the-uk

Italy and France have also been building field hospitals and increasing their capacities in a very short timeframe.
It really goes to show what G7 Countries can do.
Shame that healthcare spend was hit as a result of austerity.

Blut2 wrote: »

Once it gets wider media coverage I'd imagine we'll see a lot of pressure to lift quarantines for the not-at-risk sections of society.

paleoperson wrote: »

Ah yes, the nuanced conspiracy theory.

The concession of some things, but with the overwhelming message that it's just a bad cold.

It's like just because someone doesn't go full Alex Jones we have to take them seriously, some joke.

Xertz wrote: »

At this stage, I think the government needs to make a firm call on festivals to be cancelled perhaps out as far as September.

There are a lot of community organisations, promoters, commercial bodies and others holding off on pulling the plug as they’re not able to make a decision and also if they’re progressed and planned things be come more and more difficult to cancel.

I would really like to see a government advisory just asking organisers to postpone until autumn or hold off until 2021.

If things unexpectedly improve between now and September, and we can mingle again, then it would be better to have smaller scale events anyway and less of an expectation.

The key thing though is the government needs to give clear guidance and actually just ask people not to organise big events until autumn as this thing won’t be under control until at best late 2020.

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

GOOD

they don't have to fire them - put them into "furlough" , and possibly not pay them - but at least they'll have a job when this is over.

Xertz wrote: »

At this stage, I think the government needs to make a firm call on festivals to be cancelled perhaps out as far as September.

There are a lot of community organisations, promoters, commercial bodies and others holding off on pulling the plug as they’re not able to make a decision and also if they’re progressed and planned things be come more and more difficult to cancel.

There are events ranging from summer festivals, arts festivals, agricultural stuff, pride, etc etc all still pending.

I would really like to see a government advisory just asking organisers to postpone until autumn or hold off until 2021.

If things unexpectedly improve between now and September, and we can mingle again, then it would be better to have smaller scale events anyway and less of an expectation.

The key thing though is the government needs to give clear guidance and actually just ask people not to organise big events until autumn as this thing won’t be under control until at best late 2020.