CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

accensi0n · 27-03-2020 12:09AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

It’s getting a lot more real on ICU and deaths but the headline rate of growth is down around or maybe even going below 20%. It feels like we are perhaps flattening the curve.

The change of requirements to be tested, is still to take affect. Once that happens the number of cases is probably going to increase.

Strazdas · 27-03-2020 12:09AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

That is bang out of order. No way should anyone in that setting not be wearing protective gear (especially given the age profile of the residents).

ChikiChiki · 27-03-2020 12:09AM

sideswipe wrote: »

To be fair there were some major projections announced by The ERSI today. This is an unprecedented event in all our lifetimes, the human cost is obviously tragic and deserves the majority of our attention but one day this will be over and the very future of our economic futures is at a massive crossroads. We should be allowed discuss it.

I work with a finance company whose sole being here is based on our economic output and tax advantages.

Would I sacrifice my family and friends and their families for that??

Not a chance.

martingriff · 27-03-2020 12:09AM

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the story with flights into Ireland? Many counties banned yet?

Are we not doing what the EU are doing no with no flight in unless our own people

fritzelly · 27-03-2020 12:10AM

Cupatae wrote: »

Itd be interesting to know the figures of healthy people with no underlying conditions that have died from it.

You know if you are doing well, catch coronavirus and dead 2-3 weeks later it wouldn't be beyond reasonable doubt to assume coronavirus was the cause
Underlying conditions don't matter, the virus is just another infection for your body to fight and if it's already stretched or non existent then good chance the virus will finish you off

Very few people who don't have some kind of underlying illness/condition of some description

Quantum Erasure · 27-03-2020 12:10AM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Urm, yeah, I’m well aware of that. My point was that they are not on the list either together or separately, whilst the Isle Of Man is, despite them all apparently being dependencies. We were wondering why the Isle of Man was listed. If you’re going to deploy the ol’ rolly eyes, at least make sure you know what you’re responding to there, Jimbo. Might be an idea. What do you reckon?

so, this'll probably be lost in the thread, but I went back to the article linked and read the comments...

https://theconversation.com/think-your-country-is-crowded-these-maps-reveal-the-truth-about-population-density-across-europe-90345
Alasdair Rae
Professor in Urban Studies and Planning, University of Sheffield

In reply to Damien Noble
Thanks Damien - hadn’t thought about Jersey or Guernsey.

Ficheall wrote: »

UV will kill it

Source?

the sun

saabsaab · 27-03-2020 12:10AM

UV light can kill viruses, like a sanitizer see link. but it is not a cure!

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjD4K3EoLnoAhXCQhUIHXU-C6AQFjAKegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2Fpmc%2Farticles%2FPMC1280232%2F&usg=AOvVaw2e_XAAmLJRkYQ4vH_XJcnX

Yes we get UV from the sun here stronger in Summer.

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/Ireland/Dublin/UVindex.htm

JP Liz V1 · 27-03-2020 12:11AM

I hope our nursing care homes are not becoming like in Spain

27-03-2020 12:11AM

martingriff wrote: »

Are we not doing what the EU are doing no with no flight in unless our own people

I have no idea. I'm not in Ireland.

Thelonious Monk · 27-03-2020 12:11AM

https://twitter.com/euronews/status/1243281413601996806

Italians are gas

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 12:11AM

martingriff wrote: »

It is very good I give you that if things go south may not see it. I agree with your second paragraph though. The conspiracy theorist in me (which does not come out 2 often) wonder will he try to delay the election for a unspecified period of time due to an emergency if it does go against him

I dont think that is constitutional. Apparently if the election is not contested, or doesn't happen in time, the speaker becomes the president.

The individual States can make laws on absentee voting. Not all allow it now, but if the virus re-appears they probably all will.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-03-2020 12:12AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I hope our nursing care homes are not becoming like in Spain

We need our walks.

Zillah · 27-03-2020 12:12AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

How are the people you were in close contact etc? If they are ok it’s probably unlikely you had it.

Only one person I had any significant interaction with, and I'm pretty sure she is the one who infected me. I only had a sore throat and a bronchitis-like sensation that came and went for two weeks, so I probably was not very infectious (no cough or running nose to spread it around). My housemate had it quite a bit worse, including coughing, so I'm just curious.

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 12:12AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It is low because we are not testing enough?

We are clearly testing more that we used to and the rate of change is still slowing.

Akrasia · 27-03-2020 12:12AM

Cupatae wrote: »

I read somewhere it has mutated quiet Abit I think there is 8 different strains of it, I'm not a ðŸ’¯ how true that is though, it d certainly make a vaccine difficult to get tho if it is

Genetic code is very complex, mutations happen all the time but some parts of the RNA are intolerant of even minor mutations. A vaccine will target certain binding sites in a viral envelope that are probably more stable than other parts of the RNA sequence because changing them would make the virus less able to infect human cells

kowloon · 27-03-2020 12:12AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I'd prefer to become part of the United States Of America, than The United States Of Europe

I'd miss the healthcare, education and low murder rate if we had to join the USA.

martingriff · 27-03-2020 12:13AM

FVP3 wrote: »

I dont think that is constitutional. Apparently if the election is not contested, or doesn't happen in time, the speaker becomes the president.

The individual States can make laws on absentee voting. Not all allow it now, but if the virus re-appears they probably all will.

Paul Ryan!!!! Puppet leader

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 12:13AM

Trump may be a bumbling idiot but he is right the widespread lock downs can't go on indefinitely.

We will have to accept this illness as a fact of life sooner or later, something to be managed.

Hopefully things can start opening up again soon.

Cork Boy 53 · 27-03-2020 12:13AM

martingriff wrote: »

It is very good I give you that if things go south may not see it. I agree with your second paragraph though. The conspiracy theorist in me (which does not come out 2 often) wonder will he try to delay the election for a unspecified period of time due to an emergency if it does go against him

Even in wartime US Presidential elections went ahead as scheduled.

ChikiChiki · 27-03-2020 12:13AM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Simple as that, eh?

Maybe I'm a bit too ethical so.

I don't look at everything in the context of "do what it takes to keep the economy going".

Thats a flaw to some I suppose.

froog · 27-03-2020 12:14AM

the fact that trump cares about literally nothing except himself is working in his favour here as people mistake this for steely presidential calm in the face of a global emergency.

sadie1502 · 27-03-2020 12:14AM

When is Ireland supposed to peak?

L'prof · 27-03-2020 12:14AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

It’s getting a lot more real on ICU and deaths but the headline rate of growth is down around or maybe even going below 20%. It feels like we are perhaps flattening the curve.

Rate of growth is down but with our highest amount of new cases to date today I still think we’re a ways off flattening the curve unfortunately

bekker · 27-03-2020 12:14AM

Del Griffith wrote: »

They're counting all deaths as attributed, if the person had it when they died. Which is wrong, imo.

Erroneous in my opinion. we all die in the end.

If some has an underlying disease under control, and they are infect with COVID-19 and die prematurely, then COVID-19 is the cause of death.

For anyone having a problem, imagine the same person is knocked down by a bus and dies, is it the underlying condition, or being hit by the bus that killed them?

timmy_mallet · 27-03-2020 12:16AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Maybe I'm a bit too ethical so.

I don't look at everything in the context of "do what it takes to keep the economy going".

Thats a flaw to some I suppose.

One can be a bit too ethical, yes. While a noble pursuit, it isnt always the best course.

JP Liz V1 · 27-03-2020 12:16AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

Sorry to hear this, take care all

Would she be safer at home with a relative if any can accommodate?

FVP3 · 27-03-2020 12:16AM

martingriff wrote: »

Paul Ryan!!!! Puppet leader

Nancy Pelosi. I think the election is going ahead.

Strazdas · 27-03-2020 12:16AM

sadie1502 wrote: »

When is Ireland supposed to peak?

Mid April (not actually that far away now).

Uriel. · 27-03-2020 12:17AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

So there are cases of Covid19 in my mother in law’s nursing home.

The nursing home was locked down on March 6th. That was twenty days ago.
Nobody has been allowed to visit. Nobody.

It has been heartbreaking for us but devastating for my Father in law.

Let us not forget that on March 6th the authorities scolded Nursing Homes Ireland and told them off for acting ‘unilaterally’. I wrote about it back then. But NHI stuck to their guns and did it anyway. They locked down the Nursing homes.

On that very day - March 6th, my other half was unexpectedly refused entry to see his mum. We have not been able to visit since. That was the last day and its been very hard.

So, we got a phonecall about two hours ago.

There are two cases in the Nursing home. Both have been moved to hospital, one is in the ICU.

Today, my OH went to The Nursing home. He phoned first. They propped his mum (granny) up near her window. He waved and took pictures through the window. The care assistant was not wearing a mask or gloves – nothing. NOTHING! I was angry when I saw the pictures.

And just a few hours later we get this call that two residents have tested positive and have been taken to hospital. (…They are ‘Just keeping us updated’. FFS!)

It wouldn’t be so frustrating/confounding /so flippin annoying if I didn’t know the staff – but just F^ck this. Yes the staff are lovely, yes yes yes they are all lovely but bloody Hell.

So either a visitor introduced the virus into the nursing home 20 days ago (bit of a stretch there!) or a member of staff introduced it at some point over the last 7 to 14 days.

Just F^ck that.

And why was the staff member not wearing a mask or gloves?

Is this being replicated nationwide?

So it is in my Mother in Laws Nursing home now. She is not safe. Now what???

The care assistant did not need necessarily need to wear a mask in the circumstances you describe. PPE guidance for Healthcare workers is available from the health surveillance protection service.

You also have to remember that staff may work across a number of settings, agency staff may be required from time to time. Anyone could be a carrier.

martingriff · 27-03-2020 12:17AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Trump may be a bumbling idiot but he is right the widespread lock downs can't go on indefinitely.

We will have to accept this illness as a fact of life sooner or later, something to be managed.

Hopefully things can start opening up again soon.

Why not?. Are you okay with hospitals getting swapped with Covid 19 cases and deaths increasing A) because of the virus and

other diesease (such as cancers, hearth disease etc) could not get treatment. Go talk to someone who lived through a World War (hell any war) and toughen up

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03