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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #1532
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    You know these death numbers coming with covid 19 , is it actually the virus killing people or say... If someone was on the way out.. and contracted the virus would that death be attributed to covid 19?

    It must be a really rapid killer if it's just straight up the virus killing people , the death information seems vague tho.


  • #1533
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    dublin99 wrote: »
    Antibodies found in pet dog serum test in Hong Kong:

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3077177/coronavirus-final-testing-hong-kong-dogs-blood

    Whilst there is no evidence that humans can get infected by their pets, it is worth bearing in mind there is a possibility.

    **** it, my dog was skiing in north italy 4 weeks ago.


  • #1534
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭growleaves


    You know these death numbers coming with covid 19 , is it actually the virus killing people or say... If someone was on the way out.. and contracted the virus would that death be attributed to covid 19?

    Yes.

    Edit: Both


  • #1535
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Scuid Mhór wrote: »
    Which trajectory do you think is most likely for us, Coyote? The middle one?

    my hope is that we get to somewhere between slow change and lockdown
    when i started tracking it we were at 30 to 25% per day
    now were at 16.5 and seem to drop about 2% per two days but is that testing not keeping up or people avoiding each other it's hard to tell
    the more you test the more you find but thats a good thing.

    Coyote


  • #1536
    martin101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭martin101


    Jim Gazebo wrote: »
    Most of the time these situations are exaggerated for effect. If it was that bad, tell your boss, not boards.ie

    What would you know you muppet


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  • #1537
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Thats For Sure wrote: »
    We will soon be Italy. Big thanks to the government for taking ZERO steps to keep the virus out.
    What?


  • #1538
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Spain: +8,271 cases +718 deaths


  • #1539
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,695 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You know these death numbers coming with covid 19 , is it actually the virus killing people or say... If someone was on the way out.. and contracted the virus would that death be attributed to covid 19?

    It must be a really rapid killer if it's just straight up the virus killing people , the death information seems vague tho.

    That question may be one to be asked to the consultant AMA.

    To thine own self be true



  • #1540
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Columbia wrote: »
    Call the Gardai, no question. If 98% of people take precautions and 2% of people act like idiots then every single vulnerable person in Ireland is still at risk, it's not acceptable.

    Without fines its probably pointless.

    Without fines kids will treat it as a joke.

    Maybe the threat of a 500 euro fine might focus their minds.

    Time to put aside liberal values at a time like this. Impossible to save lives when you have idiots treating a lockdown as a joke with zero punishment.


  • #1541
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    martin101 wrote: »
    Just found out my bus in the evening has been cancelled until further notice. So now I've to make two bus journeys home. Going to take me on average 2 hours to get home now each night. I asked my boss could I maybe get off an hour earlier each day and I'll work my lunch and try to get in even earlier than usual. I was told no. Even though most of the people in my office are now working from home. I feel like just quitting. Having a family member with an underlying condition too is just adding to my stress. Don't know what to do next. Wouldn't mind but my work is also non essential. Maybe I should just go to the doctor and see if I can get off with work related stress or something. It stands against everything I do though. You see people's true colours at times like this

    Tell him you'll work from home and if he demands you come in then tell him to sack you and you'll take him and the company to an unfair dismissal tribunal after all this is over.


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  • #1542
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    raclle wrote: »
    There's still plenty of factories and call centres open with hundreds or thousands working in them. Why have the government or HSE not decided to close these places? I know some cant just walk out or they don't get paid

    The Telcos should be offering their ‘softclient’ licenses for free or at very reduced cost to allow call center workers the option of working from home

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #1543
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Simple as that, eh?

    Nope not at all but its better then collapsing the who health sector and see hundreds to thousands die (and not just from this virus but from other who could not get the treatment they needed like cancer or dialysis) just to get people to spend


  • #1544
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    niallo27 wrote: »
    **** it, my dog was skiing in north italy 4 weeks ago.



  • #1545
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Not 100% true.

    Stop people moving and you'll stop the virus spreading.
    You could still pick it up from an infected surface if you're not taking right precautions.

    So go for a run on your own and don't lick the railings?

    The virus is reported to exist on surfaces longer than most, but UV will kill it, and we get 12 hours of sunlight now.


  • #1546
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Cupatae wrote: »
    It must be a really rapid killer if it's just straight up the virus killing people
    Yeah, you try not breathing for a while and see how long it takes..


  • #1547
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    martin101 wrote: »
    Thank you. I think you've just made my decision for me. My health and my family's health is more important than a job.

    I was in the same boat I live with someone at high risk, but the work I do at the min makes critical parts for medical equipment, so Its a tougher choice... As demand has gone thru the roof and am need to do extra hours rather than less

    If I could I would stay at home tho **** the money


  • #1548
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,187 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Guardian reporting NHS staff in the UK to be redeployed to London to deal with coming surge there.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/nhs-to-move-nurses-to-london-to-help-with-coronavirus-tsunami


  • #1549
    irishgeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You know these death numbers coming with covid 19 , is it actually the virus killing people or say... If someone was on the way out.. and contracted the virus would that death be attributed to covid 19?

    It must be a really rapid killer if it's just straight up the virus killing people , the death information seems vague tho.

    Its causes issues with getting oxygen into the red blood cells, so the heart has to pump faster to get more red blood cells around the body. Weak hearts may not take the strain.


  • #1550
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    FVP3 wrote: »
    UV will kill it
    Source?


  • #1551
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    i said it before, if it starts spreading in homeless people, a few hotels will have to go into lockdown

    Depends on what they mean by homeless. Is it the new definition does who do not own a home and had there heads in the sand or is it the homeless that live on the streets


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  • #1552
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Yeah, you try not breathing for a while and see how long it takes..

    Good lad read the rest of what I wrote.


  • #1553
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Spain: +8,271 cases +718 deaths

    Thats a pity, they seemed to be reigning it in.


  • #1554
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    FVP3 wrote: »
    So go for a run on your own and don't lick the railings?

    The virus is reported to exist on surfaces longer than most, but UV will kill it, and we get 12 hours of sunlight now.

    You get about six minutes of sunlight per century

    ffs


  • #1555
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Guardian reporting NHS staff in the UK to be redeployed to London to deal with coming surge there.

    Have you no interest at all in whats happening here?


  • #1556
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You know these death numbers coming with covid 19 , is it actually the virus killing people or say... If someone was on the way out.. and contracted the virus would that death be attributed to covid 19?

    It must be a really rapid killer if it's just straight up the virus killing people , the death information seems vague tho.

    They're counting all deaths as attributed, if the person had it when they died. Which is wrong, imo.


  • #1557
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I doubt it L. I really do. Now I do take off my shoes when I get home and leave them on a matt soaked with bleach, but maybe I'm taking it too far. :eek::D But I would be shocked if roads and paths were a real risk.

    And yes fomite transmission is a big thing, but fomite means any object humans interact with that can spread contagion. Roads are way down the list compared to door handles, cars, handrails, phones, keys, money, cards, wallets, purses, shopping, shared areas in apartment blocks etc.

    I would think paths would be quite contaminated. When you think of busy places and people coughing etc it is possibly that the virus is on them.

    I still see some people spitting on paths even now. Gross


  • #1558
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Yep for me and other bosses, its easy to forget unless its an essential job they are in dodgy territory if they try to strong arm you coming in.
    If any of the employees are exposed to this in a work environment and the employer is not following Government/HSE guidelines the employer may leave themselves exposed to legal action. Although their insurers may end up dealing with any claim, a business could be completely destroyed if they get one adverse legal action/claim on something like this


  • #1559
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's the story with flights into Ireland? Many counties banned yet?


  • #1560
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Yep for me and other bosses, its easy to forget unless its an essential job they are in dodgy territory if they try to strong arm you coming in.

    There is opportunity for employers and service providers to build up good will with customers and staff. People will remember the businesses that profiteered or tried to needlessly endanger their workers

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • #1561
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Nope - it only gives protection to where they currently are (when the bill passes)

    I hope (well in a way sorry we had a 2 year battle with them where I was due to the area in receivership)


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