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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #9392
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I don't believe a word you say. If your family is frontline then why would they need your warnings?

    Also, a sure sign of a spoofer is when challenged that they resort to insults. I've reported your post to mods.

    It's bad enough reading your posts here live, I've no interest in searching for or reading your drivel

    Why have you reported me.

    Dogs in the street know what's happening. You should look up comical Ali cause you look like him.

    https://twitter.com/otuathail/status/1242947657888382977?s=20



  • #9393
    flynnlives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So it's true they are not allowed to protect themselves adequately?

    They might not be allowed but the social contract is broken when it's not provided and people tend to bend rules when they are risking their lives.

    Would you prefer they wore a bin bag and swimming goggles?

    Grenfell residents were told to remain in situ and that the fire would not reach their apartment. They were in effect not allowed to leave.

    deflection and strawmen.

    Caveat Spoofer more like


  • #9394
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    The Dutch, Italians, Spanish and French rank lowest in washing hands with soap and water after using the toilet.

    I wonder how much of the infection rates in countries comes down to traditional basic hygiene practices?


  • #9395
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    flynnlives wrote: »
    Im saying our country has little or no experience of mass casualty events.
    Our hospitals are by and large small and quiet.
    So im not surprised we had initially ar large amount of infected healthcare workers.

    Training has since been rolled out and i expect the rates to drop dramatically.
    Incorrect, c.f.

    Section 4.4.1 of the National Framework for Major Emergency Management (2006)

    NATIONAL STRUCTURES FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT . ... Programme for Partnership Government (2016).

    That's what contingency planning is all about.

    Unfortunately it need constant revision, and amendment in light of developing threats, that takes (un)allocated resource..


  • #9396
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    am i right in saying we exported masks from the west of ireland and we now are now flying in/back masks from china. seems a bit of a roundabout way of doing things?


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  • #9397
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Italy got worse today.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0324/1126051-italy-coronavirus/


  • #9398
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    bekker wrote: »
    Incorrect, c.f.

    Section 4.4.1 of the National Framework for Major Emergency Management (2006)

    NATIONAL STRUCTURES FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT . ... Programme for Partnership Government (2016).

    That's what contingency planning is all about.

    Unfortunately it need constant revision, and amendment in light of developing threats, that takes (un)allocated resource..

    The only contingency planning in that is for a fund - nothing really proactive about that, will always find money when needed.


  • #9399
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    humberklog wrote: »
    The Dutch, Italians, Spanish and French rank lowest in washing hands with soap and water after using the toilet.

    I wonder how much of the infection rates in countries comes down to traditional basic hygiene practices?

    What about Iran?


  • #9400
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    What's the deal with Paddy Cosgrove and his obsession with the Coronaviris on Twitter?

    There's something in my head about him being a bit moody about his web summit a few years ago.

    They still have not fixed the broadband in the RDS?


  • #9401
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    My mum is a nurse in CUH and she’s wearing red scrubs this week. Before she always wore a white nursing top and black trousers.
    I questioned it and she said something about not wearing her own clothes.
    They have basic blue gloves and disposable masks.
    She isn’t dealing with any virus patients that she knows of.

    I wonder will Irish hospital staff continue their proud tradition of wearing their uniforms outside of work? And GPs wearing ties? For virus spreading reasons, medical uniforms should always remain at work. Blindingly obvious but going on here for years.


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  • #9402
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,792 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Why have you reported me.

    Dogs in the street know what's happening. You should look up comical Ali cause you look like him.

    https://twitter.com/otuathail/status/1242947657888382977?s=20

    I reported you for calling me a '****wit',

    Anyhow, you found a tweet, anecdotal evidence. Fantastic.

    Here's a New York Times article showing how medical staff are being infected and killed around Europe.

    It's not a uniquely Irlsh problem.


  • #9403
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Italy got worse today.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0324/1126051-italy-coronavirus/

    That's so yesterday or rather 2 days ago now


  • #9404
    flynnlives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    bekker wrote: »
    Incorrect, c.f.

    Section 4.4.1 of the National Framework for Major Emergency Management (2006)

    NATIONAL STRUCTURES FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT . ... Programme for Partnership Government (2016).

    That's what contingency planning is all about.

    Unfortunately it need constant revision, and amendment in light of developing threats, that takes (un)allocated resource..

    "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
    Mike Tyson

    We are good at writing plans in Ireland.


  • #9405
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    flynnlives wrote: »
    deflection and strawmen.

    Caveat Spoofer more like


    Name calling, nice one. First post on here 3 weeks ago. I reluctantly posted to try to warn.
    04-03-2020, 12:26

    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Really think we need to start taking it seriously. Anybody with a cursory understanding of statistics, probability and flight patterns could see cases being imported from Italy. On any given day there is on average ~10 direct flights from the affected regions in Italy. The cases we are seeking now are from last week. The number of cases in Italy has grown exponentially in the mean time. So the probability of more cases being imported has also increased and we will see more in coming days.

    We are not being given a full picture for a very good reason. Panic is a bigger danger to society. That means some families will have to take the hit for the greater good. I don't want to be one of those families.

    It's not the flu. Although look at the wikipedia page on 1918 Spanish flu for understanding of what happens during pandemic. If you are really arsed look at the sources referenced to dispel any thoughts that it's bull****.

    In lombardy in Italy where first clusters recorded in Italy ~50% of those who tested positive ARE hospitalised. ~7% are in intensive care. They are testing like crazy. WHO said most western countries do not have the resources / training /will to mount a response like china did. We simply don't have enough mechanincal respirators to cope. Very soon Italy won't cope.

    There is a lag on transmission that is lulling people in to false sense of security. There is also concerted effort to put business before health of nation.


  • #9406
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    New Home wrote: »
    What about Iran?

    They go around licking religious stuff


  • #9407
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    They still have not fixed the broadband in the RDS?

    Problem is, if they do then he might come back.

    Must be a terrible burden for him to know everything and always be right.


  • #9408
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Italy got worse today.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0324/1126051-italy-coronavirus/

    That's from the 24th.

    There were 683 deaths on Wednesday


  • #9409
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Strumms wrote: »
    ... another poster just point out one issue especially for you.

    Were the schools closed during your formative years too?


  • #9410
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,759 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I sincerely doubt he's used to anyone listening to him, other than those on his payroll. But that doesn't mean he doesn't THINK everyone listens to him.

    If you want to know what his deal is, he's in a basket with Elon Musk, Conor McGregor, Dominic Cummings and others. I would say Trump too, but he doesn't have the high intelligence of the others and so is a different kettle of fish. But in the case of Paddy and his cohort, we're talking high functioning malignant narcissist with varying degrees of impactful sociopathy.


  • #9411
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    New Home wrote: »
    What about Iran?

    Islamic toilet etiquette is a thing. It's ourselves I'd worry about.


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  • #9412
    moceri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭moceri


    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    Agreed, except the flight situation. Only let Irish citizens in or people with proof of permanent residence.
    Flights still arriving from Rome and Geneva. If people are so unconcerned about the risks of travelling from hotspot regions, can they be trusted to self isolate unsupervised for 14 days?


  • #9413
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    I wonder will Irish hospital staff continue their proud tradition of wearing their uniforms outside of work? And GPs wearing ties? For virus spreading reasons, medical uniforms should always remain at work. Blindingly obvious but going on here for years.

    I doubt they’d be able to clean and wash all health carers clothing in work. My mum has endless uniforms that go in the wash at home straight after work.


  • #9414
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I sincerely doubt he's used to anyone listening to him, .

    He is extremely rich. That ALONE will make people listen to you ..expecially in the states.

    AND ...
    In 2015 he was listed 18th in the Wired UK list of the most influential people in Europe in the field of technology.

    Yes very powerful people listen to him. Very rich people listen to him.

    And also very ordinary sheepish people listen to him....

    I mean that's just the way the world is.

    People listened to trump on economics and business for years!


  • #9415
    flynnlives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Name calling, nice one. First post on here 3 weeks ago. I reluctantly posted to try to warn.
    04-03-2020, 12:26

    Stopping flights doesnt work, look at New Zealand.
    Its pretty clear the gov has thrown the economy out the window.
    Everyone was worried 3 weeks ago.

    What is your point besides more deflection?

    You should read your first paragraph again about expo growth and stats and apply them to our current numbers.You will see our numbers growing at a slower pace and our R number actually falling.

    Do you actually want things to get bad here?


  • #9416
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,666 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Award winning German microbiologist - one of most cited research scientists in Germany - says the covid hysteria is nonsense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB9bA-gXL4

    We're being taken for a ride. When the dust settles the rich will to be richer and ordinary folk will be paying the tab for decades.


    So what's happening in Italy is just mass hysteria?


  • #9417
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    New Home wrote: »
    What about Iran?

    Don't know the figures (or have any first hand experience of) for Iran in hand washing. There's some on Europe.


  • #9418
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    murpho999 wrote: »
    I reported you for calling me a '****wit',

    Anyhow, you found a tweet, anecdotal evidence. Fantastic.

    Here's a New York Times article showing how medical staff are being infected and killed around Europe.

    It's not a uniquely Irlsh problem.

    I apologise. You are allowed to call me a liar but my definition of a fvckwit is someone who ignores evidence. This is an emotional time. Especially when my direct family are risking their lives to treat people without adequate PPE.

    You assume they work in a hospital. I never said this.

    I don't care what's happening elsewhere right now

    I care what's happening here.

    Nobody cared about Congo when ebola was going on. Why the sudden urge to compare and contrast with other sh!te responses.


  • #9419
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    murpho999 wrote: »
    WHO declared the outbreak as a pandemic on March 11th. 14 days ago. So how are we a month into it?

    What I said was "We are a month in to treating a pandemic."

    Our first case was diagnosed on 29/2 just after we started testing. Today is the 26/3. We are a month into treating a pandemic.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    How is the Netherlands 2 weeks ahead of us? They are in serious trouble. 360 deaths. Only closed schools last week.

    Dutch health department is telling its citizens that children cannot transmit the virus to adults and therefore it's ok for kids to mingle in playgrounds.

    They are a population of 17million surrounded by land based countries within Europe. They closed their schools, bars and restaurants on 15/3. Whilst their first case was diagnosed only two days before ours, they have adopted an unproven herd immunity "approach". Numbers have escalated. The first cases in Italy may have now been early December, 2019 and deaths recorded as strange pneumonia cases may have been Covid19, which was yet to be known about.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    UK has made a complete balls of it with their herd mentality approach and put the economy ahead of health..

    Now they've done an about face but it's too late. Virus is rampant among the community, deaths are starting to soar and testing is miniscule compared to here.

    Watch both of those countries death rates soar at a much higher rate then hours..

    Yes the UK have. There is a strong argument that we should not be importing those cases back in through lax borders.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    Also I'd like a link to evidence of the virus mutating, You don't seem strong on facts you can back up though.

    Quite the contrary, I am just more educated than you on this subject.

    Here's your link you could have googled all the same.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/iceland-scientists-found-40-mutations-of-the-coronavirus-report-says/


  • #9420
    codie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭codie


    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/24/21-million-chinese-cellphone-users-disappear-in-three-months-of-pandemic/
    Might be posted already .
    This is totally nuts, hard to believe.
    But it's also hard to believe the amount of deaths reported by Chinese gov.


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  • #9421
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Just looked the twitter thread there. His main gripe seems to be that the authorities announced that they had sufficient PPE last Friday but today it looks like they are running out fast. No fan of Paddy Cosgrave but it does seem like Fridays announcement was either a major oversight or a blatant lie

    Don't know where he is going calling for resignations though. Not sure how he has such a high profile considering he is basically an event organiser (albeit a very successful one)


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