CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

plodder · 25-03-2020 12:27PM

Belle E. Flops wrote: »

The teenagers taking part in the 'Corona challenge' should be shot on sight.

So, I guess this is not the generation that's going to save us from global warming after all ....

Seriously though, the media hype it up one way one week (teenagers are the future!) Next week, they are unfairly demonising the whole lot of them. Ivan Yates whipped it up on his program yesterday with someone pointing out, young people's brains aren't fully developed until their mid twenties. Imagine someone had pointed that out in the context of Greta T and the whole climate crisis.

Also an elderly lady texted into the program that she saw a group of teens, looking at her, and she knew what was going through their mind - to do this stupid stunt. She just knew it ... :rolleyes:

Hrududu · 25-03-2020 12:29PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Call me a cynic but anyone find it odd that number for children testing positive is very very low but yet out of all the kids who have it Greta Thunberg is one , oh and of course she fine just self isolating ,

One could say it seems like a move for more attention when she is not being spoken about , ( by the parents not her)

Quick someone reset the Greta clock. God it took a while to get slagging her today lads. Sloppy work.

Dohnjoe · 25-03-2020 12:29PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Call me a cynic but anyone find it odd that number for children testing positive is very very low but yet out of all the kids who have it Greta Thunberg is one , oh and of course she fine just self isolating ,

One could say it seems like a move for more attention when she is not being spoken about , ( by the parents not her)

Younger people generally tend to have milder symptoms. Experts estimate there could be 10x or more (potentially significantly more) the number of reported cases due to the lack of testing and testing kits. Thunberg was on a train tour of Europe before all this kicked off, so she could be right when she says she may have had it - but she can't be tested because Sweden is only testing the most severe cases

I know some people who have had the symptoms but haven't been able to get tests

facehugger99 · 25-03-2020 12:30PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

One of the first confirmed cases here was a guy in Wicklow who returned form skiing in Italy so was tested ( he showed no symptoms) , He was on the radio yesterday ,

7 of the group of 18 tested positive, Some couples who shared rooms tested positive and the other negative,

So you can tell who's has a good sex life basically.

Tacitus Kilgore · 25-03-2020 12:30PM

Hrududu wrote: »

Quick someone reset the Greta clock. God it took a while to get slagging her today lads. Sloppy work.

Fuckin loser old men constantly giving out about some kid, fuckin weirdos the lot of them.

Naos · 25-03-2020 12:32PM

To the posters that are saying the amount of test results we are producing is pathetic, what is your solution?

Bearing in mind that there is only a finite amount of testing that can be done in the labs and that you need people who are actually qualified to conduct these tests (normally requiring 5+ years of education).

So if your solution is more labs or more lab technicians then that's fine but please provide details as to how we would achieve that in the 2-3 month timespan since this virus has been known or speculated to be as impactful as it has been.

jv2000 · 25-03-2020 12:34PM

newbie18892 wrote: »

GP called me this morning and said despite meeting criteria before i'm not priority now so won't be tested. I don't mind that too much as I know there's more high risk people than me out there. However, she said it's highly likely i have some form of respiratory tract infection but there's nothing really she can do for it, just continue to self-isolate. Fair enough, but I would've thought GP's could still prescribe antibiotics or are they afraid if it is COVID that i have that antibiotics would have adverse effects?

It actually sounds like the GP suspects you do have COVID-19 but cannot get you a test as there is a shortage and you are not high priority. This would explain not prescribing antibiotics as they will have no benefit and unnecessary use of antibiotics is discouraged due to the whole immunity issue. Purely speculation on my part and I hope you feel better soon.

weldoninhio · 25-03-2020 12:34PM

Achasanai wrote: »

How is it 'creative accounting'? The real important figure is how many we're testing per population, which I believe is relatively high (compared to other European countries) for the stage that we're currently at.

We can test as many as we like, but if the swabs are unusable by the time they get to the labs, its creative accounting and a PR move.

25-03-2020 12:34PM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

204 Confirmed cases today, 18% increase. 1 additional death, no new recoveries. Total active cases are 1317. Total cases to date are 1329.

Charts and spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IMavHMFAT59NaRmSJxfHIVxAhiT46CmzL0tj0Esqalc

I've been looking at this everyday. It's great, thanks so much.

Any chance you could reduce the size of some of the columns so I don't have to scroll across? "Total recovered" for example does not need to be that wide. "Total active cases" is the perfect size as it fits the words perfectly without wasting space.

josip · 25-03-2020 12:34PM

Fics wrote: »

If some thug coughs or spits at me and I "defend myself" am I liable for assault or do I have the right?

Perhaps liable, but only if you get caught.
Bigger risk from a thug is they might be carrying something and seeking confrontation.
Or appear alone, but have friends waiting nearby.
So if you intend to do something, know what is you're going to do, do it quickly, effectively and without warning, and exit stage right pronto.

Roger_007 · 25-03-2020 12:35PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Fuckin loser old men constantly giving out about some kid, fuckin weirdos the lot of them.

Or possibly loser kid giving out about old men.?

Longing · 25-03-2020 12:36PM

Some good news. My GP called me. Putting me straight through as a priority. He was so concerned about my cough coming straight from my lungs. He said. If my test comes back negative he sending me straight into hospital for x-ray.

Thank you all for your support.

Silverfish · 25-03-2020 12:36PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I would disagree. Firstly I'd listen to the doc. Secondly and this is not medical advice. If you do indeed have Covid and were prescribed antibiotics it could in theory exasperate the situation. Antiobiotics kill bacterial infections. We have plenty of "good" bacteria in our system which would also take a hit.
You don't want depleted resources in fighting this infection just when your body needs them most.

You can go downhill quite quickly with this infection so be very careful. If you have a pulse oximeter, use that to monitor how much oxygen your body is getting. If you start to see a change at least you can report to a doctor.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oximeter-Finger-Saturation-Monitor-Display/dp/B078ZF18G7

You mean exacerbate, not exasperate.

frillyleaf · 25-03-2020 12:36PM

eagle eye wrote: »

It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

Yes that’s a good point.

Bob24 · 25-03-2020 12:36PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

There's more. Are we actually protecting them. We have an awfully high proportion of cases who are health care workers.

Clearly we are not protecting them enough. Both lack of PPE supplies and training on how to use it.

This isn't just Ireland though. A number of Asian countries are basically teaching us a lesson on how they are now the developed world, not the West (at least on this aspect).

yourdeadwright · 25-03-2020 12:37PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Fuckin loser old men constantly giving out about some kid, fuckin weirdos the lot of them.

Wow get off the high horse will ye ,
I never spoke about here before ,I'm not old ,and yes the cynic in me wonders is it publicity ,

gabeeg · 25-03-2020 12:37PM

Naos wrote: »

To the posters that are saying the amount of test results we are producing is pathetic, what is your solution?

Bearing in mind that there is only a finite amount of testing that can be done in the labs and that you need people who are actually qualified to conduct these tests (normally requiring 5+ years of education).

So if your solution is more labs or more lab technicians then that's fine but please provide details as to how we would achieve that in the 2-3 month timespan since this virus has been known or speculated to be as impactful as it has been.

Talk to other nations that have managed it. See if you can copy them.

If not, we're in big, big trouble.

josip · 25-03-2020 12:38PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

currently the space station has zero cases

just goes to show

but its a virus, unless you exist in a bubble you could get it

Someone super rich on a private island where they can self isolate is far less likely to get it than someone working in an A&E

The Space Station aren't testing

A Dub in Glasgo · 25-03-2020 12:39PM

https://twitter.com/BBCJamesCook/status/1242769869982044161

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 12:39PM

Longing wrote: »

Some good news. My GP called me. Putting me straight through as a priority. He was so concerned about my cough coming straight from my lungs. He said. If my test comes back negative he sending me straight into hospital for x-ray.

Thank you all for your support.

surely that's not much good to you if you have to retest and it takes you 6 days to get a result

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 12:40PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Some amount of b****ing the last few pages.

The issue of PPE is being addressed as mentioned in the press conference last night. We are not the only country experiencing these issues, we had to negotiate a deal with China to get PPE sent over. Every country affected needs more! There are also mass stockpiles ready to go. We aren't seeing nurses and doctors assessing patients without wearing PPE are we? Where is the proof of it if so? We have been told there is plenty of PPE on the way.

https://twitter.com/CossPeter/status/1242539010028908550?s=20

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 12:40PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.

Incubation period, testing procedure and backlogs, also depends when people report symptoms and apply to get checked.

It's going to take time.

Shelga · 25-03-2020 12:41PM

I highly doubt that Charles wasn't prioritised for testing, over the peasants.

This crisis is exposing so many disgusting aspects of the British class system, and their bizarre deference to people like the Royal Family and Boris.

Thank christ we are a republic.

Tacitus Kilgore · 25-03-2020 12:41PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Wow get off the high horse will ye ,
I never spoke about here before ,I'm not old ,and yes the cynic in me wonders is it publicity ,

What high horse? Does that phrase even apply here?

Tell me this, did you instantly wonder if Charles Mountbatten, Idris Elba, Tom Hanks et al were all for publicity?

FVP3 · 25-03-2020 12:42PM

eagle eye wrote: »

It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

Best man for the HSE job alright.

What we need is a man who will charge money for hospital admissions and even more if you want a bed, respirator, room, or nurse.

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 12:43PM

josip wrote: »

The Space Station aren't testing

sure where do you think this was developed?

Kermit.de.frog · 25-03-2020 12:44PM

Just seen on Sky News how the rate of growth in southern Italy is surging.

Up to 23% growth reported in some towns/cities. Whereas it's around 8% in most places in the north.

Consequences of infected migrating north/south perhaps.

Roger_007 · 25-03-2020 12:44PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Incubation period, testing procedure and backlogs, also depends when people report symptoms and apply to get checked.

It's going to take time.

It’s also important to remember that although the infection rates look horrendous, it still represents only 0.1% of the population. Not that high in a pandemic ?

GM228 · 25-03-2020 12:45PM

Clarification on weather the new case definitions were WHO or DoH mandated, this may not go down well as it appears the requirements is now WHO case definitions and priority groups which has been determined by the DoH it seems, not the WHO:-

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1242762914647457794?s=19

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 12:46PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CossPeter/status/1242539010028908550?s=20

To the HSE spinbots on here. Shame on you. Constant attack on here for trying to raise awareness about what medics are actually facing on the ground.

Feel free to apologise.

No fancy background, daily brief, man in the east, obfuscated data will hide the extent of this problem.

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