CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 12:10PM

From Guardian feed @08:36. Not sure I'd fancy this being announced here myself!

French government scientific advisers have recommended a total of six weeks’ lockdown, a suggestion president Emmanuel Macron and his ministers are considering but seem reluctant to announce at this moment, Kim Willsher, the Guardian’s Paris correspondent, reports.

Meanwhile here's more on that Dutch situation.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/dutch-coronavirus-measures-may-be-slowing-growth-health-chief-tells-mps/

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 12:10PM

newbie18892 wrote: »

GP called me this morning and said despite meeting criteria before i'm not priority now so won't be tested. I don't mind that too much as I know there's more high risk people than me out there. However, she said it's highly likely i have some form of respiratory tract infection but there's nothing really she can do for it, just continue to self-isolate. Fair enough, but I would've thought GP's could still prescribe antibiotics or are they afraid if it is COVID that i have that antibiotics would have adverse effects?

BluePlanet wrote: »

I concur, if she is diagnosing a respiratory tract infection then i think the normal treatment is antiboitics, not just let the infection fester until you present at A&E.
Sounds like you got the fob-off. :mad:

I would disagree. Firstly I'd listen to the doc. Secondly and this is not medical advice. If you do indeed have Covid and were prescribed antibiotics it could in theory exasperate the situation. Antiobiotics kill bacterial infections. We have plenty of "good" bacteria in our system which would also take a hit.
You don't want depleted resources in fighting this infection just when your body needs them most.

You can go downhill quite quickly with this infection so be very careful. If you have a pulse oximeter, use that to monitor how much oxygen your body is getting. If you start to see a change at least you can report to a doctor.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oximeter-Finger-Saturation-Monitor-Display/dp/B078ZF18G7

MarkY91 · 25-03-2020 12:11PM

branie2 wrote: »

The fact that Prince Charles has the virus just shows that anyone can get it.

Only a matter of time until a high profile celebrity or personality does from the virus. Young or old. I think only then will some people realise the severity of the pandemic will hit some people that ANYONE can contract it and ANYONE can die from it.

patnor1011 · 25-03-2020 12:11PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

G'way there with your "facts" :pac:

I think we have different definitions of the word.

The facts are he is a failed ex-lecturer in communications. Maybe he could give some bad introductory lessons into how to use twitter or facebook?
On coronavirus, I'm probably not going to put a lot of weight onto his ramblings. You can if you want.

Sure. You can do whatever you want, feel free to panic away...

Christy42 · 25-03-2020 12:11PM

eagle eye wrote: »

It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

??? I feel like O'Leary would still care more about flights than testing.

I am not sure Harris has stopped at anything to get more testing. As has been mentioned we seem to be doing pretty good per capital in terms of testing.

Someone mentioned a quote from Harris about Ireland not getting a pandemic but I can't find that and seems to be a random claim. All I can find is his this is serious but don't panic advice which still seems to hold.

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 12:12PM

eagle eye wrote: »

It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

Michael O'Leary reallY?

Sanitsers. 2 euro per litre. Oh you want a bottle for it, that wil be €40.

Testing: €40 per person. Result sent by text for €20.

Call centre set up in Department of health for premium rates.

I jest. O'Leary is talented but has no experience in dealing with health, medicine, HSE, etc.

Testing will improve but it can't be done instantly like so many expect.

expectationlost · 25-03-2020 12:13PM

so many people saying they have no fever yet testing positive, can't understand these new test criteria, sure tighten it but chest issues seem to be key not just the fever...

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 12:13PM

branie2 wrote: »

The fact that Prince Charles has the virus just shows that anyone can get it.

currently the space station has zero cases

just goes to show

but its a virus, unless you exist in a bubble you could get it

Someone super rich on a private island where they can self isolate is far less likely to get it than someone working in an A&E

MarkY91 · 25-03-2020 12:13PM

It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.

walshb · 25-03-2020 12:14PM

Yes, O'Leary is what's needed......bulls in china shops are always the way to go during serious health issues and crises...

25-03-2020 12:14PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

Only a matter of time until a high profile celebrity or personality does from the virus. Young or old. I think only then will some people realise the severity of the pandemic will hit some people that ANYONE can contract it and ANYONE can die from it.

Rumour circulating last week. RUMOUR. That Prince Phillip had died and nothing has been said to avoid panic and/or mourners outside the palaces.

Donald Trump · 25-03-2020 12:14PM

KaneToad wrote: »

Donald Trump is another example of a ruthless, brash billionaire. Maybe we could get him on board too?

Sure what could go wrong?

Renjit · 25-03-2020 12:14PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.

It seems to be leveling off now. Soon we may see fewer case.

yourdeadwright · 25-03-2020 12:15PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

So Charles has it but his wife tested negative. A little odd that.

One of the first confirmed cases here was a guy in Wicklow who returned form skiing in Italy so was tested ( he showed no symptoms) , He was on the radio yesterday ,

7 of the group of 18 tested positive, Some couples who shared rooms tested positive and the other negative,

Logan Roy · 25-03-2020 12:15PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.

Testing backlog presumably.

Corkgirl20 · 25-03-2020 12:16PM

I’ve just seen Prince Charles has tested positive. God help him he’s 71. Maybe the UK might cop on a bit more now. I’ve friends in the UK and I’m looking at their social media’s and it’s as if nothing’s changed !

facehugger99 · 25-03-2020 12:16PM

branie2 wrote: »

The fact that Prince Charles has the virus just shows that anyone can get it.

Don't be ridiculous.

Have you ever seen that video of him trying not to shake hands?

Hrududu · 25-03-2020 12:17PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

It must be very widespread in UK?
It's not like the royals would be out and about on the Tube.

Yeah but think of all the staff they probably have around them all day.

SophieLockhart · 25-03-2020 12:17PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Rumour circulating last week. RUMOUR. That Prince Phillip had died and nothing has been said to avoid panic and/or mourners outside the palaces.

Not sure if you should be posting that without a shred of evidence.... I don't think the death of a 98 year old would cause 'panic' anyway...

cameramonkey · 25-03-2020 12:18PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.

Over 70% of the spread in China has been between family members.

Loafing Oaf · 25-03-2020 12:18PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

So Charles has it but his wife tested negative. A little odd that.

You'd wonder how much 'close contact' is going on at their age...

yourdeadwright · 25-03-2020 12:18PM

Call me a cynic but anyone find it odd that number for children testing positive is very very low but yet out of all the kids who have it Greta Thunberg is one , oh and of course she fine just self isolating ,

One could say it seems like a move for more attention when she is not being spoken about , ( by the parents not her)

patnor1011 · 25-03-2020 12:19PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.

Because no lockdown is going to stop it. It may slow it down but even that is disputable as even with what Italians did there is still considerable movement of people which are in what is considered essential services or industry.
Hell Chinese even welded people in apartment blocks and still could not get rid of it. There is talk about second wave there as they relaxed lockdown in some places.

tobefrank321 · 25-03-2020 12:19PM

prosaic wrote: »

Still waiting to see significant flattening of the curve. For the past 10 days, the exponential growth in cases has been roughly constant with about 21% increase per day (used line fit on log of numbers). By start of April, there'll be about 900 or 1000 cases per day. Of course, some of this could be due to increased testing rates.

We won't be able to test at that level and its probably a waste of resources doing so.

We should probably move to sample testing of the population to tell us what proportion are infected, and also testing of hospital cases at some stage. And also antibody testing.

25-03-2020 12:21PM

SophieLockhart wrote: »

Not sure if you should be posting that without a shred of evidence.... I don't think the death of a 98 year old would cause 'panic' anyway...

RUMOUR!

patnor1011 · 25-03-2020 12:23PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Call me a cynic but anyone find it odd that number for children testing positive is very very low but yet out of all the kids who have it Greta Thunberg is one , oh and of course she fine just self isolating ,

One could say it seems like a move for more attention when she is not being spoken about , ( by the parents not her)

A lot of celebrities could not resist some virtue signalling. The best of them is Madonna talking naked from her bathtub and response from people doing the same from their toilette.
Something to enlighten the mood in this hard times. Free entertainment.

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 12:24PM

Here's what other countries are doing to protect their healthcare workers.
They also have vastly more experience in dealing with this type of outbreak.

https://twitter.com/drdanchoi/status/1242630987407818752?s=20

pH · 25-03-2020 12:24PM

is_that_so wrote: »

From Guardian feed @08:36. Not sure I'd fancy this being announced here myself!

Meanwhile here's more on that Dutch situation.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/dutch-coronavirus-measures-may-be-slowing-growth-health-chief-tells-mps/

From the article:

Initial estimates show that the infection rate – the number of people infected by a carrier – is on or below one, rather than two to three as it was earlier, Van Dissel said. ‘The exponential growth of the outbreak would appear to have been halted.’ This would mean technically that number of infections would rise in a straight line rather than a curve.

No it doesn't. If we can get R0 below 1.0 then the number of current infections decreases exponentially - these curves go down just as quickly as they go up (well technically for a number of reasons it's slightly less steep, but it's still an exponential decay curve).

This is an important point, all this obsession with 'flattening the curve' is nonsense. The key metric should be to get the spread rate below 1.0, which means the disease shuts down just about as quickly as it appeared.

Muahahaha · 25-03-2020 12:25PM

pH wrote: »

Apparently not. Prince Charles (and Camila) were both tested on the NHS under the standard testing regime, no queue jumping or special treatment at all, honest guv'.

haha it took a medical team of 22 on call for months 24/7 to deliver a Royal baby so somehow I dont think Charles was waiting for a test along with the great unwashed

The medical team consisted of two obstetricians, three midwives, three anesthetists, four surgical staff, two special care baby-unit staff, four pediatricians, one lab technician and three to four managers.

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/kate-middleton-had-22-medical-staff-assist-in-princess-charlottes-delivery-and-everyone-was-sworn-to-secrecy-34745015.html

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 12:26PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Here's what other countries are doing to protect their healthcare workers.
They also have vastly more experience in dealing with this type of outbreak.

https://twitter.com/drdanchoi/status/1242630987407818752?s=20

There's more. Are we actually protecting them. We have an awfully high proportion of cases who are health care workers.

https://twitter.com/drdanchoi/status/1242631109785071616?s=20

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP