CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Nermal · 24-03-2020 12:39AM

from_atozinc wrote: »

Just outside shop, dispose of gloves.

Not attacking you - just an observation: funny how superficial our temporary commitment to reducing waste was.

I'll remember to sell the next time the environmental agenda gets traction. It's definitely a leading indicator.

skimpydoo · 24-03-2020 12:39AM

regedit wrote: »

Trump talking about hydroxychloroquine being rapidly approved by the FDA. Unless it happened in the past few minutes, this a (another) lie!

Trump it's not going to work.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus

astrofool · 24-03-2020 12:39AM

Seamai wrote: »

Dry cleaning and pet shops ??? Essential?

Pet shops will be for pet food, got cat food at the weekend in Pet Stop, much much much less busy than going to a supermarket for the same thing, plus I can get a 10kg bag there and not have to go again for ages.

Some people are thick about these things.

woohoo!!! · 24-03-2020 12:40AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

This guy

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242204325906186240

Can i ask folk to block this guy on twitter and not to post his tweets here, pretty please with sugar on top.

owlbethere · 24-03-2020 12:40AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

This makes for grim reading.

Thanks for sharing. The HSE will have to come out and do some sort of a slot on TV and give the nation advice about the home treatment of this. We know the symptoms to watch out for, we know to self isolate, we know to take fluids and o we the counter medicines. They need to come out and tell us, how bad this can get at home and when are we supposed to call for further help.

After reading this and if I can down with symptoms and a flu, I would take it as Covid-19, self isolate, do my bit and I really don't think I would be in the mood for a covid-19 test and swabs stuck up my nose and down my throat. I think I would try and get over it without testing.

tobefrank321 · 24-03-2020 12:40AM

Martina1991 wrote: »

You think its crazy that a national service wasn't set up in a few weeks for a virus that has never been seen before?

You're hard to please.

Honestly, we've had the guts of 3 months to prepare for this. All we had to do was follow to the letter everything China, South Korea and Singapore were doing. We ignored every single lesson from their outbreaks. Lessons around banning travel asap to and from hotspot zones, forced isolation of those coming from hotspots, imposing real lockdowns and maximising testing. Almost 3 months for our government and HSE to take on board those lessons. They failed and pretty much told us "it will never happen here". Guess what, it has happened and now they are going around like headless chickens. Our government and HSE don't do proactive. They always act only when the sh*t has well and truly hit the fan.

Atlantic Dawn · 24-03-2020 12:41AM

Could that ghost ship that landed in Cork be set free, I'd fancy my chances on that for the next few months adrift in the Atlantic.

Martina1991 · 24-03-2020 12:41AM

tobefrank321 wrote:

Yes appears to be so. Surely we have more labs and lab analysts? Our medical science industry is pretty advanced.

More labs will be providing the service when they have the equipment to do so.

And no, there was a shortage of Medical Scientists nationwide before the pandemic. Staff and resources are being stretched now.

robinph · 24-03-2020 12:41AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

UK never mentioned construction? Is that essential, all the B&Q's all the hardware yards, all the garden centres?

Plumbing supplies would be considered essential to most people.

Maybe not ordering a new fitted kitchen though.

BorneTobyWilde · 24-03-2020 12:41AM

Would not be a surprise if all these celebrity cases of Covid-19 are propaganda , Claire Byrne doing it at the request of Government to show everyone that anyone can get it.

froog · 24-03-2020 12:41AM

i suspect in time when this is all over we're going to realise the major failing in countries responses even with full or near full lockdowns is that young people were the major vectors spreading this thing to older more vulnerable people. it appears from the S. Korean data that the chances of infection do not really vary with age, but severity of symptoms are heavily dependent on age. in the very young this thing is very likely to be asymptomatic or present almost unnoticeable symptoms. we know from our own country that the young are the least likely to isolate and / or care that much about the thing at all and a huge number of parents don't seem to be keeping their kids indoors and away from other kids. you have to assume this is a story seen around the world. we're all humans after all.

closing schools is a logical step but parents all over the world have to take big responsibility here.

Mwengwe · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

Nermal wrote: »

Not attacking you - just an observation: funny how superficial our temporary commitment to reducing waste was.

I'll remember to sell the next time the environmental agenda gets traction. It's definitely a leading indicator.

It's a difficult dilemma but yeah some people who seemed to think single use plastic was equivalent to murder have changed their tune

YFlyer · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

Are student nurses working without pay?

woohoo!!! · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Honestly, we've had the guts of 3 months to prepare for this. All we had to do was follow to the letter everything China, South Korea and Singapore were doing. We ignored every single lesson from their outbreaks. Lessons around banning travel asap to and from hotspot zones, forced isolation of those coming from hotspots, imposing real lockdowns and maximising testing. Almost 3 months for our government and HSE to take on board those lessons. They failed and pretty much told us "it will never happen here". Guess what, it has happened and they are going around like headless chickens. Our government and HSE don't do proactive. They always act only when the sh*t has well and truly hit the fan.

Italy banned travel from China ages ago...

Quantum Erasure · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

This guy

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242204325906186240

this guy?

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242211718689849349

antodeco · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

Are all these people getting tested showing symptoms or just getting tested? I've a massive fear that people are just getting tested to show they don't have it, and then think everything is fine. To understand properly, everyone should be getting tested weekly. A negative now doesn't mean a negative next week

bb12 · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Yes appears to be so. Surely we have more labs and lab analysts? Our medical science industry is pretty advanced.

Maybe time to get more private industry involved?

they've plans to get the agri labs involved. there;s a few of them scattered around the country

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/department-of-agriculture-laboratories-to-assist-in-covid-19-testing/

Stheno · 24-03-2020 12:42AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Just to pray? There are definitely no Masses or confessions on.

I think its day Mass
Her church streams Sunday Mass

But they practice distancing

For sure during Mass but not after

I'm furious at her

owlbethere · 24-03-2020 12:43AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Coronavirus has been front page news since at least January 1st. We were told by the HSE time and time again they were well prepared for something like Coronavirus. We are at the very bottom of the ramp when it comes to cases and their testing process is already essentially overstressed and broken.

It doesn't bode well for the contact tracing at all.

The One Doctor · 24-03-2020 12:43AM

rodDaly69 wrote: »

The fact their death rate is multitudes higher than our own?

One would assume the level of healthcare is roughly equivalent between our nations. They have a population approx 11 times greater than our own, so their death rate should be around 66 to be level with ourselves. They are in the mid 300's, around 5 times higher per capita with some basic back of napkin maths.

When you can't test everyone, the death rate is the best indicator of level of infection in the population.

Yes, but death rate must be measured against total infected, not total population. Total infected, however, can be measured against total population.

Gods Gift · 24-03-2020 12:43AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Would not be a surprise if all these celebrity cases of Covid-19 are propaganda , Claire Byrne doing it at the request of Government to show everyone that anyone can get it.

Claire has always tested positive.
Positive for sexy.

Mwengwe · 24-03-2020 12:43AM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

Can i ask folk to block this guy on twitter and not to post his tweets here, pretty please with sugar on top.

Hadn't heard of him til now.

EDit · 24-03-2020 12:44AM

antodeco wrote: »

Are all these people getting tested showing symptoms or just getting tested? I've a massive fear that people are just getting tested to show they don't have it, and then think everything is fine. To understand properly, everyone should be getting tested weekly. A negative now doesn't mean a negative next week

You can only get tested by referral by a gp... you can’t just rock up and get a test done.

statesaver · 24-03-2020 12:44AM

YFlyer wrote: »

Are student nurses working without pay?

Great experience though, will defo ace their exams.

Valhallapt · 24-03-2020 12:45AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

This guy

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1242204325906186240

I defended him a few pages back, but he’s gone full Gemma O’Doherty now

Any idea what he’s actually trying to do with this data?

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 12:45AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Coronavirus has been front page news since at least January 1st. We were told by the HSE time and time again they were well prepared for something like Coronavirus. We are at the very bottom of the ramp when it comes to cases and their testing process is already essentially overstressed and broken.

How is it broken, just because people have to wait.

Do you see how we're testing more people and it will ramp up. We're testing more than the UK & Netherlands.

It's not broken, it's not fully up to speed yet and it takes time.

This does not mean they're not well prepared.
Also, can you not see how things ramped up rapidly from the start of March?

Can you not see how we're doing better than Italy or Spain?

Really people just come on here and just criticise because it's Ireland, or the HSE or the Government.

antodeco · 24-03-2020 12:46AM

EDit wrote: »

You can only get tested by referral by a gp... you can’t just rock up and get a test done.

The wording on RTE earlier said that some onf the new test centres opening today we're for referrals only, which made it sound like some others weren't!

threeball · 24-03-2020 12:47AM

More info coming out from diamond princess.

Over 700 were infected.

50% were asymptomatic, with no symptoms whatsoever.

Coronavirus was found on some surfaces up to 17 days after the ship was vacated

So we're looking at high numbers of superspreaders but a high rate of herd immunity based on those findings.

skellig_rocks · 24-03-2020 12:47AM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

Italy banned travel from China ages ago...

The problem is EU didn't ban flights from China, or anyone who were in China in past 14days. So if someone from China wished to go to Italy (or Ireland), they would just transit via LHR or CDG or AMS. I know few Chinese did just that back to Dublin after Chinese New year

bilston · 24-03-2020 12:47AM

I think in a few weeks time the Americas will become the new "epicentre".

The US looks to be headed for a severe crisis.

But I'd keep an eye on Brazil as well. Cases starting to rise by 300+ a day and today alone there were 9 deaths.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP