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Boy (8) dies after dog attack

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    #32
    FixitFelix
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

    Obviously just like some people can be more dangerous, the problem is people who trust their dogs around kids without supervision


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    BurnUp78
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

    Well just look at the fatal dog attacks in the US and the vast majority are pitbulls, like 70% I'd say.


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    #34
    BurnUp78
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    tuxy wrote: »
    But everyone who owns those breads would consider themselves experienced enough.

    Maybe a special license should be needed in order to own these specific breeds and the way you obtain the license is to undergo a dog training class where you demonstrate the knowledge and ability in how to handle them?


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    Still waters
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    A rest in peace to the poor child who died a horrific death would be more appropriate

    Thats what i meant, did you pick up something else from what i wrote


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    #36
    Still waters
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    AlphabetCards wrote: »
    Out of interest, where so you reckon your IQ lies in the grand scheme of things? Top third? Top tenth?

    Higher than yours I'd wager, although that wouldn't make me a genius by any means


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    #37
    Abba987
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    Every dog has the potential to attack. We had an old lady years ago who never hurt a fly but snapped when she got sick

    However not all dogs have the strength to overpower and kill.


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    #38
    Xertz
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    I don't quite understand why, even in security, you would need such a dog. Mostly a dog acts as a deterrent by being a big loud, bouncy thing that might make a huge fuss and raise the alarm. Some of these breeds are are basically bread to be potentially deadly weapons.

    RIP. It's unthinkable and a senseless tragedy.


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    #39
    jaxxx
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    A rest in peace to the poor child who died a horrific death would be more appropriate


    Cratur meaning CRATER (mispelled OBVIOUSLY).


    Jesus...


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    Ms2011
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Can some breeds have the potential to be more dangerous than others?

    No, no breed is any more dangerous than the next. Restricted Breed Legislation has been proven to be ineffective. A dog is a dog first and breed second.


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    #41
    castletownman
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    I wonder was the "container storage" business a front for something else? Like a bit of of a side project that would require guard dogs minding the premises.

    Not stereotyping by the location and breed of dog involved of course.

    Someone did mention earlier about those sort of dogs being a status symbol. Well, I haven't seen any wannabe criminals walking around with shih tzus, malteses or springer spaniels anyway.


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    kildare lad
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    A friend of mine had a Rottweiler, when his missus had a child the dog started to get jealous and his hairs would start stand up on it's back . He got rid of it after that.


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    #43
    Bobblehats
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    Xertz wrote: »
    I don't quite understand why, even in security, you would need such a dog. Mostly a dog acts as a deterrent by being a big loud, bouncy thing that might make a huge fuss and raise the alarm. Some of these breeds are are basically bread to be potentially deadly weapons

    RIP. It's unthinkable and a senseless tragedy.

    They’re potentially deadly anyway there lies the reason if looks could kill

    Disgusted another child passed opposite under such savage circumstances spare a thought for the surgeons too who were presented with and had to try and rescue that situation. I wish we wouldn’t act like such ******* in this country it will become of us, always the kids that pay


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    Ms2011
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    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    Well just look at the fatal dog attacks in the US and the vast majority are pitbulls, like 70% I'd say.

    People, even those in authority are notorious ill informed about dogs. Any dog with a blocky head is labelled a Pitbull type, this does not mean they are actually Pit Bulls. Labs have blocky heads as do some Pointers and their crosses, but if they bite some one its automatically recorded as a Pit Bull or Pit Bull type.


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    #45
    holyhead
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    R.I.P. young man :(


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    #46
    Ginger83
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    RIP poor guy


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    P2C
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    As a owner of a Shepard (11) and a jack (13) with 3 kids age 0,5 & 7 I would be far more comfortable leaving the Shepard with the kids than the jack Russel. Agree with you in public I would always lead/ mussel the Shepard. Sounds like theses dogs were trained to be guard dogs. My Shepard was trained and socialised to be a family pet by a responsible owner. I would not go into a yard with 2 German Shepard’s guard dogs with out their master for all the money in the world and I have had them in my family for over 30 years. Tragic circumstances. RIP young man

    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    If a jack Russel bites someone it's not going to make the news. My neighbour has a papillon and she's a little **** that's extremely aggressive but because it's the size of a rat it can't really do any damage and the owner has no desire to discipline/train it.

    When a rottweiler is aggressive and attacks a human/other dog its a different story because they are so large and powerful and the only people who should own these dogs should be experienced at handling large breeds and same goes for German shepherds, Akitas, Mastiffs etc and these dogs should never be allowed to be unleashed in parks.


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    mariaalice
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    Snails pace wrote: »
    I've a rottweiler dog, his there for the look and does a good job. His quiet and friendly but i still wouldn't take the chance of leaving him around children. Rottweilers are a very jealous breed and having two of them isn't a great idea. It's mainly bad owners more so than bad dogs.

    Every dog can be vicious. Labradors and terriers can be viscous around stock I and often had issues with them.

    Why do you need the look though? is it some ridiculous macho thing

    In a very rural area of Wicklow recently I came across some young lads with two dogs not on leads they were pit bulls ,at first I thought they were staffies but looked it up when I got home and they were pit bulls. They came up to me and were lovely very friendly but why do people want dogs like that dose it big them up? and why is obeying the rules so hard for some?


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    branie2
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    May the little man rest in peace


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    Bobblehats
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    Why do you need the look though? is it some ridiculous macho thing

    In a very rural area of Wicklow recently I came across some young lads with two dogs not on leads they were pit bulls ,at first I thought they were staffies but looked it up when I got home and they were pit bulls. They came up to me and were lovely very friendly but why do people want dogs like that dose it big them up? and why is obeying the rules so hard for some?

    Most animals will approach for a sniff of a hand. What may be in it, or simply just it problem is they’ll have that same blank stare when they settle for it and are chewing it off you. That’s why I only need look at the animal, to to judge the potential of it after all that’s what’s really at play here.


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    mariaalice
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    Bobblehats wrote: »
    Most animals will approach for a sniff of a hand. What may be in it, or simply just it problem is they’ll have that same blank stare when they settle for it and are chewing it off you. That’s why I only need look at the animal, to to judge the potential of it after all that’s what’s really at play here.

    I can't say for certain but I would say the two pit bulls I met were not dangerous and were very friendly, that could have been because despite not having a lead or muzzle on them they looked like they were very well cared for.


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    The Tetrarch
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    Ms2011 wrote: »
    No, no breed is any more dangerous than the next. Restricted Breed Legislation has been proven to be ineffective. A dog is a dog first and breed second.
    Are you saying a pit bull, a rottweiler, a biullmastiff, a chihuahua, a pekinese, a shih tzu are all much the same for threat?


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    #53
    Zebra3
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    Foweva Awone wrote: »
    Well, seeing as the parents were (supposed to be) responsible for (a) the child, and (b) the animals ... I can't see how they weren't to blame.

    Poor child. RIP.

    News report on RTE I saw didn't give that information.


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    Bobblehats
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    I can't say for certain but I would say the two pit bulls I met were not dangerous and were very friendly, that could have been because despite not having a lead or muzzle on them they looked like they were very well cared for.

    Well you weren't so well cared for in this instance

    Anyway let's spare a thought for that child tonight another hapless victim in the jaws of what would have appeared a monster, there's no dressing it up. Tragedy doesn't even begin to describe


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    #55
    Lewis_Benson
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    Blaming a breed of dog is not the answer, the owners of the dog have them trained to do what they did, which is completely wrong.


    This is a horrible thing to happen, especially to a young child, the parents will grieve for a very long time, my condolences to them, they must be absolutely beside themselves, I know I would be.


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    #56
    PsychoPete
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    It's truly an awful tragedy, I do think any dog can be dangerous in the wrong hands


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    Limpy
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    If a dog leaves its garden and attacks you on a public road can you sue the owner?

    Example: a garden gate is left open and the dog attacks you as you walk jog past.


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    NIMAN
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    I can't say for certain but I would say the two pit bulls I met were not dangerous and were very friendly, that could have been because despite not having a lead or muzzle on them they looked like they were very well cared for.

    Any dog had the potential to be very dangerous. But some are more dangerous than others.

    There are some that a grown adult would struggle to fight off if attacked. Pitbulls are one.

    If I had my way, the really dangerous breeds would be banned and bred out of existence.


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    Lewis_Benson
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    Any dog had the potential to be very dangerous. But some are more dangerous than others.

    There are some that a grown adult would struggle to fight off if attacked. Pitbulls are one.

    If I had my way, the really dangerous breeds would be banned and bred out of existence.

    Can I ask, and I'm not having a Go or trying to start an argument, but what are the really dangerous breeds?


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    KathleenGrant
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    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Christ that poor child. The pain and horror he went through must have been absolutely shocking. His final moments were just barbaric.


    RIP

    This....
    Poor child. Absolutely horrific way to go.
    Way more important than disputing breeds of dogs.


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    Ms2011
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    The Tetrarch wrote: »
    Are you saying a pit bull, a rottweiler, a biullmastiff, a chihuahua, a pekinese, a shih tzu are all much the same for threat?

    Their temperament is no more dangerous.


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