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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8402
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Christy42 wrote: »
    15,000 is a worst case scenario. I.e. If infection rates actually go way up which would mean that we get a higher % of positive tests.

    No need to go to conspiracy stuff.

    Just saying, Christy, is all. Don't worry, I have a fairly tight hould of the reins :D


  • #8403
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,825 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Tesco shelves still empty for the oap shop even got in at 7am before anyone else

    Username checks out.


  • #8404
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Its a legitimate case study by London Imperial College based of Italy numbers. Neil Ferguson predicted this from January. So likely to be very accurate.

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

    Yea, but what does he know ;)
    https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1240171876695117824


  • #8405
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Go anytime after 10am and you’re ok. Some shops are for oap’s and carers up till 9am so you’re definitely fine at10.

    Aldi is after 11 except oaps


  • #8406
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    farmchoice wrote: »
    perhaps that has been dealt with already but i have a question around the stats.
    yesterday they released a figure stating that they had conducted 6600 tests so far. of those as we know just under 300 were positive.
    so 94% of those tested came back negative, and they were targeted tests of people they suspected may well have the virus.


    they are saying we can expect 15,000 cases by the end of the month. now at the current rate of positive results that would require us carrying out 250,000 tests in the next 14 days.
    now seeing as how we are now greatly expanding the criteria to get a test logic would seem to imply that that 6% success rate would actually fall a good bit lower. then again it would be off set by their being more infected people.


    even if it doubled to 12% success rate ( i dont believe anywhere in the world has come close to that) would still need to carrying out 125,000.
    now the govt announced last night they would be taking delivery of 30,000 this this week and the same again next week.
    so i just cant see how they will possibly reach that figure even it reflected the number of people infected.

    Obviously, they are expecting the rate of infection to rapidly increase
    So extrapolating from current percentages is not what you do
    They are using mathematical models for this based on what's happening in other countries like Italy and now Spain plus recognised information on how normal viruses spread
    Italy hasn't reached the top of its curve yet and what's happening there is pretty vile as you know


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  • #8407
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Still don't know what I was waitin' for
    And my time was runnin' wild
    A million dead end streets and
    Every time I thought I'd got it made
    It seemed the taste was not so sweet
    So I turned myself to face me
    But I've never caught a glimpse
    How the others must see the faker
    I'm much too fast to take that test

    It’s a god awful small affair..


  • #8408
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Cameron326 wrote: »
    Anyone got Tesco delivery recently? Anyone know whether Tesco has changed their home delivery process? IE, does the delivery man still come into your house with the crates, or are they now just leaving cardboard boxes outside your door and self signing to avoid close contact? I know that AnPost no longer require a signature for most deliveries.

    Just got mine, crates dropped at door, driver wearing disposable gloves, brought the crates in, unpacked and returned them.

    For those wondering about stock, they substituted a bottle of green craft paint for blue. Everything else (lots of stuff) was there.


  • #8409
    from_atozinc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭from_atozinc


    was just thinking there
    4 of us in house here, parents in 40's. children under 6.
    All healthy , no symptoms etc
    staying in house and all this.
    no social interaction etc

    do we need to be OTT with our hand washing and hygiene or just do what we normally did before all this


  • #8410
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    On hold 12 mins on the HSE helpline. Home help arrived in to my Dad this morning and informed me they will not be issued with any ppe beyond the gloves they always have. No masks, no sanitising hand gel, no disposable apron. The nature of their work means they cannot maintain physical distance and they are going from house to house all day. I am absolutely raging that they, their clients and any vulnerable people in their families are being put are risk in this way. 16 mins on hold now...


  • #8411
    Fiery mutant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    micks_address wrote: »
    What industry do you work in?

    I work in non food retail, I've been wearing mask and gloves the last few days, the volumes coming into the shop have been crazy.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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  • #8412
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    from_atozinc wrote: »
    was just thinking there
    4 of us in house here, parents in 40's. children under 6.
    All healthy , no symptoms etc
    staying in house and all this.
    no social interaction etc

    do we need to be OTT with our hand washing and hygiene or just do what we normally did before all this

    Surely only if you are out and about.


  • #8413
    from_atozinc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭from_atozinc


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Surely only if you are out and about.

    from time to time yeah, but not for last couple of days, im on about the days we dont leave the house at all


  • #8414
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Back to normal in our office today numbers-wise, sensible precautions being adopted but it appears the apocalyptic 'end of days' scenarios have been greatly exaggerated.

    Sorry, but this post is haunting me, so you've all gone back to work in the office as per normal, and that the whole thing is an exaggerated dream?

    Please clarify, in case I've got the wrong end of the stick.


  • #8415
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,632 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Still don't know what I was waitin' for
    And my time was runnin' wild
    A million dead end streets and
    Every time I thought I'd got it made
    It seemed the taste was not so sweet
    So I turned myself to face me
    But I've never caught a glimpse
    How the others must see the faker
    I'm much too fast to take that test
    Don't worry, everything will be hunky dory


  • #8416
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    from_atozinc wrote: »
    was just thinking there
    4 of us in house here, parents in 40's. children under 6.
    All healthy , no symptoms etc
    staying in house and all this.
    no social interaction etc

    do we need to be OTT with our hand washing and hygiene or just do what we normally did before all this

    You need to at a min wash morning and evening and every time before you eat
    Do not assume that one of you unknown to others has not came in contact with virus


  • #8417
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Loads of Cheltenham goers showing symptoms in England.


  • #8418
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    farmchoice wrote: »
    perhaps that has been dealt with already but i have a question around the stats.
    yesterday they released a figure stating that they had conducted 6600 tests so far. of those as we know just under 300 were positive.
    so 94% of those tested came back negative, and they were targeted tests of people they suspected may well have the virus.


    they are saying we can expect 15,000 cases by the end of the month. now at the current rate of positive results that would require us carrying out 250,000 tests in the next 14 days.
    now seeing as how we are now greatly expanding the criteria to get a test logic would seem to imply that that 6% success rate would actually fall a good bit lower. then again it would be off set by their being more infected people.


    even if it doubled to 12% success rate ( i dont believe anywhere in the world has come close to that) would still need to carrying out 125,000.
    now the govt announced last night they would be taking delivery of 30,000 this this week and the same again next week.
    so i just cant see how they will possibly reach that figure even it reflected the number of people infected.

    As the number of cases rises, the proportion of those tested who have Covid19 as opposed to another viral infection will increase, meaning proportion of those tested returning positive tests will increase significantly.

    Will also reach the point where we will be clinically diagnosing based on symptoms and using the test to confirm Covid19. At that point the numbers of positive confirmed cases will be relatively meaningless, the condition of those in treatment will be the more appropriate measure. Italy currently has c30,000 cases, but based on the numbers dying / in critical care its safe to assume the virus is pretty endemic in the community, especially Lombardy, and there are likely >>100,000 actual infections, but resources and testing are focused on those in greatest clinical need


  • #8419
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    You need to at a min wash morning and evening and every time before you eat
    Do not assume that one of you unknown to others has not came in contact with virus

    And after toilet!


  • #8420
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    ok, so layoffs are inevitable in my place, at least temporarily. We are reviewing it week by week but in the meantime we are going to try pay people their €203 euro a week social welfare to get them paid and keep them out of dole offices

    What is the procedure for this, I have downloaded the social welfare 1 page form that Regina O Doherty announced but what do we do? I also think this is the wrong form to be honest, is there a special one for when employers are paying the €203 so we can claim it back??


  • #8421
    Lashes28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    Fiery mutant wrote: »
    I work in non food retail, I've been wearing mask and gloves the last few days, the volumes coming into the shop have been crazy.

    What do you sell though?
    our retail store closed down yesterday. Our store had 60euro in for the day before. There is no one aroubd and anyone is,ain't shopping for new clothes, they are buying groceries and that's it.


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  • #8422
    Volthar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    from_atozinc wrote: »
    was just thinking there
    4 of us in house here, parents in 40's. children under 6.
    All healthy , no symptoms etc
    staying in house and all this.
    no social interaction etc

    do we need to be OTT with our hand washing and hygiene or just do what we normally did before all this

    This heavily depends on what you normally did :)

    But seriously, I'd say be OTT with hands washing if you interact with the outside world, even when collecting your post from the letterbox. Other than that business as usual.


  • #8423
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Loads of Cheltenham goers showing symptoms in England.

    Link or source? You know the rules.


  • #8424
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    On hold 12 mins on the HSE helpline. Home help arrived in to my Dad this morning and informed me they will not be issued with any ppe beyond the gloves they always have. No masks, no sanitising hand gel, no disposable apron. The nature of their work means they cannot maintain physical distance and they are going from house to house all day. I am absolutely raging that they, their clients and any vulnerable people in their families are being put are risk in this way. 16 mins on hold now...

    You need to talk to Joe Duffy
    Contact your T. D urgently also


  • #8425
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    And this is the American NGO (Samaritan's Purse) plane departing to Italy to setup a field hospital in Cremona

    KWTvArYK?format=jpg&name=900x900


  • #8426
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Go anytime after 10am and you’re ok. Some shops are for oap’s and carers up till 9am so you’re definitely fine at10.


    Lidl are OAP until 11


    https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2020/0316/1123483-coronavirus/


  • #8427
    moonlighting_1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    Europe shuts down its borders - people in france will need to print out letter if going outside or be fined.



  • #8428
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Loads of Cheltenham goers showing symptoms in England.

    I hate to follow ANY fashion, but....source?


  • #8429
    greenpilot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    A few people have discussed this with me. There are a good few of us, in our late 40's, reasonably fit and recently lost our jobs who are wondering if there is any way we can join the fight, as it were, against the pandemic. I wonder would the likes of us would be any good in the RDF, for example. My old man is ex Army and he seems to think that the RDF may relax their age limits in order to recruit older and more experienced folk Into the ranks in order to free up the younger guys if needed. I'd join up in a heartbeat, I could drive, do admin work, logistics, whatever.


  • #8430
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    On hold 12 mins on the HSE helpline. Home help arrived in to my Dad this morning and informed me they will not be issued with any ppe beyond the gloves they always have. No masks, no sanitising hand gel, no disposable apron. The nature of their work means they cannot maintain physical distance and they are going from house to house all day. I am absolutely raging that they, their clients and any vulnerable people in their families are being put are risk in this way. 16 mins on hold now...

    Just for now to help your Dad could you give her an old shirt of your dads and ask her to put it on over her uniform ? Then she removes it and you wash it as hot as you can .And provide hot water and soap and a clean towel to wash her hands as she enters and leaves .


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  • #8431
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    greenpilot wrote: »
    A few people have discussed this with me. There are a good few of us, in our late 40's, reasonably fit and recently lost our jobs who are wondering if there is any way we can join the fight, as it were, against the pandemic. I wonder would the likes of us would be any good in the RDF, for example. My old man is ex Army and he seems to think that the RDF may relax their age limits in order to recruit older and more experienced folk Into the ranks in order to free up the younger guys if needed. I'd join up in a heartbeat, I could drive, do admin work, logistics, whatever.

    https://www.volunteer.ie/about-us/covid-19/


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