CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

It's a completely different situation though as you already pointed out. Unlike the last recession, it's not an economic factor behind the upcoming recession and the usual outlet of emigration will not exist this time round. On the other side, people will still need houses, food, entertainment etc.

And it's not like it's a zero sum game. There would be a huge economic impact were we to just let the health service get overwhelmed and let tens of thousands (or hundred of thousands as per the worst case scenarios) die. Or would you expect the survivors (IE family members and friends of the victims as well as the rest of society) to just shrug their shoulders and get back to work in the knowledge that the state put their jobs well above their health and well being?

One of the biggest issues from the crash was the transfer and hoarding of massive wealth whilst the little guy was up to his bollox in debt. That won't be the case this time. This virus cares nothing for wealth or class. A recovery this time will be quicker and there will be huge appetite to do so.

amadangomor wrote: »

Could he not text/ring him and say that he noticed him coughing so maybe better to stay inside until he get the test results. Not as easy to do as say but think your friend has to man up and do it.

My mate does not know if he has been tested and I doubt he has as we are only ramping up testing now.

R.F. wrote: »

Don’t kiss me, I’m Irish

Don't kiss me I'm a virus:eek:

Shn99 wrote: »

Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead

Worry and angst can be like a virus too, so don't let it get a grip, or you'll pass it on to others. Stay positive, stay healthy and remember that the glass is always half full

Shn99 wrote: »

Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead

Of course, I’m full of nervous energy that I don’t what to do with. It’s fear of the unknown and anxiety for myself, my family and the wider society.

And then I calm down a bit and tell myself that we must hold onto hope, And that while this is a terrible time, it will get better and some kind of normality will return. We have to keep a flicker of positivity going, previous generations got through world wars, famine, poverty and we shall too.

flynnlives wrote: »

The surge is coming. Probably 10 days out.

My guesstimate is 8 weeks of this kinda lockdown.
After that some normality will resume.

Two problems i can foresee:

Gob****es getting complacent and not staying indoors.

The UK experiment ****ing up all the effort we are making now.

The UK appears to be abandoning it's experiment...although it still isn't closing schools...albeit a lot are doing it themselves.

The more and more I read this thread the more and more I'm getting sick of the people that keep having such a negitive response to it..all I hear is we're going to die...we're going into lockdown...this country is ****ed just roll over and die..if I was to believe every poster on this I'd have the virus, my mother, sister, brother, uncle, aunt and so on would have it and we be all nearly dead if not dead already..I'm trying my best to stop it getting to my family but no matter how hard i try it'll probably hit 1 or 2 of us and hopefully we'll survive...but if I was to listen to all the **** on this thread you'd probably have me in my coffin already with all my family and not allowed any mourners...but hey I'm still alive and so are all my family thank god...this thread is damaging..this thread would be a nicer place without all the bull**** (scaremongers)

Stay safe people we will get through this

Can’t sleep.
Still in bed shivering but roasting.

I’ve only a dry throat though.
Will see if things improve tomorrow and ring the doctor.

threeball wrote: »

Unfortunately the ECB will fund the banks and they're the last ones we want having it as it will disappear into a black hole. This should go to governments and straight to the individual to spend immediately in the day to day economy

They have already started "giving" more money to governments, see the Asset Purchase Programme. This is printing money and handing it to the member states in practice. Tbh I prefer that over payments directly to individuals (I believe a $1,000 cheque to everyone in the US it has been mooted) as the government is in a position to direct it to where it's most needed.

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Hey there Boaty McBoatface,

Ever hear of these two? David Attenborough / Queen Elizabeth II???


Both well past 90 and loving it!

Mel Brooks, too. Good vintage, that 1926. (Well, except for poor Marilyn...)

Sausage_blaa wrote: »

The more and more I read this thread the more and more I'm getting sick of the people that keep having such a negitive response to it..all I hear is we're going to die...we're going into lockdown...this country is ****ed just roll over and die..if I was to believe every poster on this I'd have the virus, my mother, sister, brother, uncle, aunt and so on would have it and we be all nearly dead if not dead already..I'm trying my best to stop it getting to my family but no matter how hard i try it'll probably hit 1 or 2 of us and hopefully we'll survive...but if I was to listen to all the **** on this thread you'd probably have me in my coffin already with all my family and not allowed any mourners...but hey I'm still alive and so are all my family thank god...this thread is damaging..this thread would be a nicer place without all the bull**** (scaremongers)

Stay safe people we will get through this

Dying is only a small part of it. Economic decline is just as serious.

pjohnson wrote: »

Can you explain how teachers, builders and barmen will not get new jobs in their profession?

You seem to realise schools, building and bars arent going to be closed forever or become extinct professions so why wont the staff be able to get jobs when they re-open?

It’s not so simple PJ.
And I’m not a good enough debater but I will try and articulate.
Let’s use the barmen example.
Some of those people will get jobs back. . . But lots won’t.
Do you think the tourism industry will recover rapidly??
Tourism was a massive industry, the influx of foreign visitors was incredibly lucrative.

1.7 m visitors visited the Guinness storehouse last year mostly foreign visitor’s. They had staffing levels to cope with such. And charged eye watering entrance fees.
Are they going to rehire staff when the don’t have the visitors? No chance.

We won’t see a recovery of tourism for years.
So no not every barman will be in employment.

As regards teachers, they will have jobs but at reduced salaries.

Builders will be required yes, but not as many!!

It’s not about professions becoming extinct, it’s about demand!!

We can’t bury our heads in the sand here, we need to be prepared for what’s ahead

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Have you got it?

I dunno.
I was fine one minute and then really bad within an hour.

Fakediamond wrote: »

Of course, I’m full of nervous energy that I don’t what to do with. It’s fear of the unknown and anxiety for myself, my family and the wider society.

And then I calm down a bit and tell myself that we must hold onto hope, And that while this is a terrible time, it will get better and some kind of normality will return. We have to keep a flicker of positivity going, previous generations got through world wars, famine, poverty and we shall too.

Hey there Fake diamond,
It's gonna be okay, because there are so many of us who care so much (you're one of them) and that's a great start.

We're going to be okay. Do what you need to do for today and anywhere you get stuck - anywhere - reach out

If there's one thing I know, it's that when Sh!t comes to shove, Irish people are second to none in looking after our own.