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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #4442
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Apologies for contradicting you, I hadn’t realised it was only barmen at risk of job losses.


    Silly guy, don't you know we have 2-2.5 million barmen in Ireland. Jeez Louise



    https://www.thejournal.ie/employment-ireland-2018-4389695-Dec2018/


  • #4443
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,116 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    I'm guessing it's a film with Tom Hanks, and something to do with Wilson...

    Cast Away, good movie, you'd have to watch it to get the full impact

    One film of his I've never got around to watching in its entirety


  • #4444
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Apologies for contradicting you, I hadn’t realised it was only barmen at risk of job losses.

    The point holds across the economy though. It's tough for people losing their jobs and businesses now but ultimately things will get back on track again. Hopefully with some structural changes generally across the world with slightly less emphasis on making money individually (particularly for the super wealthy who will be well able to ride out this storm like all others) and slightly more emphasis on society.


  • #4445
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,073 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    After that Captain Phillips The Terminal Tully and finish up with Philadelphia very unlucky man Tom Hanks.

    I think I would watch Tom Hanks in anything, very likeable good actor, love especially A League of Their Own
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #4446
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    After that Captain Phillips The Terminal Tully and finish up with Philadelphia very unlucky man Tom Hanks.
    You were saying?


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  • #4447
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,023 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Monkeynut wrote: »
    Silly guy, don't you know we have 2-2.5 million barmen in Ireland. Jeez Louise



    https://www.thejournal.ie/employment-ireland-2018-4389695-Dec2018/
    Oh wait do people think the education system is done for good aswell then? There will never ever be another teaching job available on the island again?
    Or another building built ever again in Ireland?


    People are now predicting fookin Walking Dead style future with absolutely no professions ever existing again on the island :pac:


  • #4448
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,712 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    The point holds across the economy though. It's tough for people losing their jobs and businesses now but ultimately things will get back on track again. Hopefully with some structural changes generally across the world with slightly less emphasis on making money individually (particularly for the super wealthy who will be well able to ride out this storm like all others) and slightly more emphasis on society.

    I wouldn't hold your breath on that.

    What will, more than likely, happen is that the entire emphasis will be placed merely on the holy economy and everything else wiped off the table. In a few months after the worst has subsided, it'll be situation normal and we'll be back to were we where.

    It would be nice to think that new measures will be put in place, such as social safeguards and better public healthcare etc. But, I can't see it happening, TBH.


  • #4449
    perrito caliente
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think I would watch Tom Hanks in anything, very likeable good actor, love especially A League of Their Own

    He does bland very well, anyway.


  • #4450
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    ITman88 wrote: »
    You are incredibly optimistic of the simplicity of the economic situation.
    The virus will die off anyway it always does

    No viruses don't normally just die off.

    When flu 'comes around' in winter it's not something that has magically appeared, it is a direct descendent of last years flu, which has been spreading much more slowly throughout the Summer months from person to person, but it never 'died off'. In winter when we all huddle together inside for weeks and the temperature is right it flares up again and we all notice that "flu's back" but the truth is it never went away. During the spring/summer and autumn the number of people with the virus is smaller so we don't notice it much - but they exist.

    Other viruses like smallpox were killed off by a monumental human effort (it took 25 years) and others like measles and chickenpox are only contained due to vaccination programs.

    Recent events like SARS were aggressively treated, they didn't just die off either.


  • #4451
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,664 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    USA Today is reporting that the US government has reduced social gathering recommendations to 10 from 100. Trump has also said social distancing measures may be in place till August. Grim


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  • #4452
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ITman88 wrote: »
    “Generally what always happens”?

    Have we emerged from a global pandemic a few times where businesses reopened?

    This is uncharted territory for businesses in this country

    At least self employed people will be covered now by social welfare. About bloody time.


  • #4453
    omerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭omerin


    We need some updates on the numbers that have recovered, they too need to be front and centre in the news conferences, also the rolling number should be updated to reflect those changes. The new numbers should also have a split for example those >50 and <50 so maybe to lessen the shock when for example they say 48 of the 54 were <50.

    Just looking for some positives when the numbers start to ramp up.

    From a financial perspective, we will recover and the demand for goods and services will come back, just keep the heads down for a while, there will be support


  • #4454
    Speak Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,766 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    MintyMagnum wrote: »
    We've gone from pubs open on Good Friday, to pubs closed on St Patrick's Day!

    Who says God doesn't have a sense of humour?!

    Up to 1961 St Patrick's day was like good Friday used to be!


  • #4455
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Oh wait so you think the education system is done for good aswell then? There will never ever be another teaching job available on the island again?
    Or another building built ever again in Ireland?


    People are now predicting fookin Walking Dead style future with absolutely no professions ever existing again on the island :pac:

    No people ain’t predicting walking dead, they aren’t however burying their heads in the sand at the economic issues facing us over the next decade.

    The 08 crash had devastating effects on families in this country and the predictions are grim for what’s ahead.


  • #4456
    leck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭leck


    amadangomor wrote: »
    You might be interested in this. It's from the Washington Post and runs live simulations on how different policies/strategies can affect the spread of this virus.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
    Paywall


  • #4457
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    OMG yes Mrs. Hanks is Rita WILSON :o:D

    1484237210907

    Lads he's married to her since 1988.

    I think the irony might have been in the movie script on purpose.


  • #4458
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    It is. And it's wrong.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2016to2018

    "UK life expectancy at age 90 years saw little change from figures seen in 2015 to 2017, and remained at 4.1 years for males, and 4.6 years for females. "

    You're just writing off that 4.1/4.6 extra years of life. I'd bet any money if you were 90 you'd rather live those years than be written off as on the way out anyway.

    Your looking at if you were born in that time you may live to 90.
    At this time if you reach 90 now it a phenomenal age to reach in any part of the world, I wouldn't know many. What sort of quality of life do you have at that age?


  • #4459
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    Simple. A combination of the ECB printing money and the state borrowing will provide the resources. Most businesses that are now closed will reopen or new ones will take their place.

    Printing money is what is wrecking the economy too. Inflation will follow.
    We are so much in debt that borrowing more is pure nonsense. Who will borrow money to someone who is up to his ears in debt already?


  • #4460
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    My mother is in her late 70s and hadn't been outside for a week. She went for a short walk in the park 5 mins from our house this afternoon. There were few people around and all was fine until she had to walk past a hoarde of children aged about 4 to 12. She gave them a wide birth, it's a big wide area with several parallel paths, so no problem. A girl of about 9/10 ran over and fake sneezed in her face. She was upset and is afraid now. Parents need to step up and take some responsibility. The vast majority do and that's clear from how few are hanging around in general, but there's a significant minority with zero skills to manage their children at the best of times and it's really going to come home to roost in the middle of this situation.


  • #4461
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Speak Now wrote: »
    Up to 1961 St Patrick's day was like good Friday used to be!

    Then the Americans invented that stupid parade :(


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  • #4462
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,593 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I wish we could return to normal.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_sAHh9s08


  • #4463
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    omerin wrote: »
    We need some updates on the numbers that have recovered, they too need to be front and centre in the news conferences, also the rolling number should be updated to reflect those changes. The new numbers should also have a split for example those >50 and <50 so maybe to lessen the shock when for example they say 48 of the 54 were <50.

    Just looking for some positives when the numbers start to ramp up.

    they said they'll be giving an update of the days totals, and a breakdown of the previous days totals, from sometime this week,
    and something about a weekly update aswell, i think.


  • #4464
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I wouldn't hold your breath on that.

    What will, more than likely, happen is that the entire emphasis will be placed merely on the holy economy and everything else wiped off the table. In a few months after the worst has subsided, it'll be situation normal and we'll be back to were we where.

    It would be nice to think that new measures will be put in place, such as social safeguards and better public healthcare etc. But, I can't see it happening, TBH.

    Exactly. No romantic versions of life will exist where society will be favoured.
    Economy will be first and foremost.
    If society was favoured over economy which societal model do we follow?
    China? Iran? UK?


  • #4465
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    pH wrote: »
    No viruses don't normally just die off.

    When flu 'comes around' in winter it's not something that has magically appeared, it is a direct descendent of last years flu, which has been spreading much more slowly throughout the Summer months from person to person, but it never 'died off'. In winter when we all huddle together inside for weeks and the temperature is right it flares up again and we all notice that "flu's back" but the truth is it never went away. During the spring/summer and autumn the number of people with the virus is smaller so we don't notice it much - but they exist.

    Other viruses like smallpox were killed off by a monumental human effort (it took 25 years) and others like measles and chickenpox are only contained due to vaccination programs.

    Recent events like SARS were aggressively treated, they didn't just die off either.

    Apologies it was a sarcastic remark in response to a comment about guaranteed job recoveries


  • #4466
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    ITman88 wrote: »
    No people ain’t predicting walking dead, they aren’t however burying their heads in the sand at the economic issues facing us over the next decade.

    The 08 crash had devastating effects on families in this country and the predictions are grim for what’s ahead.

    It's a completely different situation though as you already pointed out. Unlike the last recession, it's not an economic factor behind the upcoming recession and the usual outlet of emigration will not exist this time round. On the other side, people will still need houses, food, entertainment etc.

    And it's not like it's a zero sum game. There would be a huge economic impact were we to just let the health service get overwhelmed and let tens of thousands (or hundred of thousands as per the worst case scenarios) die. Or would you expect the survivors (IE family members and friends of the victims as well as the rest of society) to just shrug their shoulders and get back to work in the knowledge that the state put their jobs well above their health and well being?


  • #4467
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Exactly. No romantic versions of life will exist where society will be favoured.
    Economy will be first and foremost.
    If society was favoured over economy which societal model do we follow?
    China? Iran? UK?

    That's simple also. The post war social democratic consensus.


  • #4468
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,023 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Apologies it was a sarcastic remark in response to a comment about guaranteed job recoveries

    Can you explain how teachers, builders and barmen will not get new jobs in their profession?

    You seem to realise schools, building and bars arent going to be closed forever or become extinct professions so why wont the staff be able to get jobs when they re-open?


  • #4469
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,664 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Interview in Rolling Stone magazine with Dr. Richard Leman — a public health physician and Chief Medical Officer, Health Security in the US.
    wrote:
    Is there any epidemiological modeling that shows how long we are going to require this change in practice? How long are we expecting our lives to be disrupted?

    We need to be prepared to do this for months. And we sometimes will see a second wave of illness and we need to be prepared for that. We’ll be watching for that. So we are in this for months. I don’t know that we’re talking a full year. I can’t promise you that it won’t be — depending on whether we see a second resurgence. But I think we need to be prepared to do that.


  • #4470
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead


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  • #4471
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Dilan Stocky Tiller wrote: »
    My mother is in her late 70s and hadn't been outside for a week. She went for a short walk in the park 5 mins from our house this afternoon. There were few people around and all was fine until she had to walk past a hoarde of children aged about 4 to 12. She gave them a wide birth, it's a big wide area with several parallel paths, so no problem. A girl of about 9/10 ran over and fake sneezed in her face. She was upset and is afraid now. Parents need to step up and take some responsibility. The vast majority do and that's clear from how few are hanging around in general, but there's a significant minority with zero skills to manage their children at the best of times and it's really going to come home to roost in the middle of this situation.

    A horde of children you say! So what's the point of kids being out of school (to avoid contact with each other), only to have hords of them congragating outside of a school environment :cool:


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