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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    Thats lot of car there. Are you sure its a Nurses car? Nurses are staff and have dedicated staff parking and exept from parking restrictions.

    Not trying to belittle anyone here but that pic coiod be anybodies car. If it is a nurses car, I would expect they wont have to pay a relesse fee.

    Looks like a 3 series? Not that much car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,073 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fr336 wrote: »
    Erm happy st Patrick's day guys

    I hope we all are around to celebrate it in 2021 ;)

    Lá fhéile Pádraig sona dhuit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭MintyMagnum


    fr336 wrote: »
    Erm happy st Patrick's day guys

    We've gone from pubs open on Good Friday, to pubs closed on St Patrick's Day!

    Who says God doesn't have a sense of humour?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    faceman wrote: »
    Not sure if this was posted already. Sky has published some details of the people who have died from the virus in the U.K. The majority are elderly and compromised patients.



    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-deaths-what-we-know-about-the-uk-victims-11957568

    80s and 90s? Thats life expectancy reached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,073 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    I'm outta the loop on this - whats the joke?

    Watch the film Castaway


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭Ladybird18


    We've gone from pubs open on Good Friday, to pubs closed on St Patrick's Day!

    Who says God doesn't have a sense of humour?!

    Could also be seen as vengence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭maninasia


    tom1ie wrote: »
    I am not quite sure you understand what I’m saying.
    China gears back up and the lockdown is lifted, workers get infected again. We are back to square one.
    You say once it peaks it does not have the same rate, that depends on two things,
    1 people can’t be reinfected due to developing immunity. We don’t know the answer to this, there are reports from China and Japan of re infections.
    2 China locked Wuhan the epicentre down. This curtailed the spread massively, hence if it kicked off again with new infections, would they catch it in time? Possibly?

    Who’s to say this is not perpetual? Until a vaccine is created there is no natural immunity.

    Last question: what are you on about?

    China has a massive testing program in place , tracking people according to risk and the society is well prepared . It will not kick off large scale again in China rest assured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Maybe a little bit of realisation from the "fuk the economy brigade" that it is actually the economy operating that keeps food on people's tables and stops us being a small agrarian backwater where we have continually export our people.

    Probably won't happen but maybe Fine Gael will be given some credit for keeping the economy going when it was on its knees. They did get more than bit stale in the last few years but when it came to that huge threat to us back in 2009/10 and the huge threat now they have stood up.
    First point, totally agree.

    Second is Revisionism of the first water - 'The Economic Adjustment Programme for Ireland, usually referred to as the Bailout programme, is a Memorandum of understanding on financial assistance to the Republic of Ireland in order to cope with the Post-2008 Irish financial crisis.

    It was signed on 16 December 2010 by the Irish Government under then-Taoiseach Brian Cowen on one hand, and on the other hand by the European Commission on behalf of the Eurogroup, the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

    On 15 December 2013, Ireland exited the programme.'

    Rubber stamping the implementation of an agreement you were not involved in shaping, and following the supervisory instructions from Germany are not actions exactly deserving of credit. Did they hold the line, yes they did, but they had little, or no option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    rob316 wrote: »
    80s and 90s? Thats life expectancy reached.

    That is very cold.

    The old are the people that built this world and brought us all into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    Thats lot of car there. Are you sure its a Nurses car? Nurses are staff and have dedicated staff parking and exept from parking restrictions.

    Not trying to belittle anyone here but that pic coiod be anybodies car. If it is a nurses car, I would expect they wont have to pay a relesse fee.
    A lot of those pics will be posted in the next while, no context only some description that’s sure the provoke a reaction and generate countless likes and comments.
    Maybe it was a nurses car, or maybe someone parked in a disabled spot.
    Laws still need to be obeyed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    A quick question for you all. A friend of mine was out jogging earlier and a neighbour of his was out walking his dog. He crossed the road and talks to mate. He mentions he is supposed to be in self isolation as his mother is in hospital with Covid-19. The guy is coughing too so mate says he has to go. My mate is wondering if he should call the guards? He thinks if he does this guy might retaliate.

    Thats North Korea level stuff right there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I hope we all are around to celebrate it in 2021 ;)

    Lá fhéile Pádraig sona dhuit

    You too Liz. Try your best not to worry, it's one of our big foes now :)

    You spoke about pleuracy, I'm similar had pneumonia and like you have asthma and a weak enough immune system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    TSQ wrote: »
    I am puzzled... your business has imploded (so has mine), so have you stopped working? In which case, how can your wife afford to give up working? What does she think?

    Little apples will grow again. It’s not as though we are totally broke either. Just under pressure (could last 6 months on rations). What’s the point in her working if we are both dead ? Serious question btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    That is very cold.

    The old are the people that built this world and brought us all into it.

    Its really not. You can't live forever, reaching that age anything all could get you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,073 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    A quick question for you all. A friend of mine was out jogging earlier and a neighbour of his was out walking his dog. He crossed the road and talks to mate. He mentions he is supposed to be in self isolation as his mother is in hospital with Covid-19. The guy is coughing too so mate says he has to go. My mate is wondering if he should call the guards? He thinks if he does this guy might retaliate.

    At least maybe HSE or local GP for advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Again, not talking about paying staff that aren't working. Merely holding their job, until things get back to normal.

    I find it difficult to believe that a lot of companies are operating on such a knife edge.

    Its probably already been said, but if you cant pay someone, and there is no work, there is no employment. Letting them go allows them to claim benefits etc. Its the cold reality. Horribile as it is, what is the alternative?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    A quick question for you all. A friend of mine was out jogging earlier and a neighbour of his was out walking his dog. He crossed the road and talks to mate. He mentions he is supposed to be in self isolation as his mother is in hospital with Covid-19. The guy is coughing too so mate says he has to go. My mate is wondering if he should call the guards? He thinks if he does this guy might retaliate.

    Could he not text/ring him and say that he noticed him coughing so maybe better to stay inside until he get the test results. Not as easy to do as say but think your friend has to man up and do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Watch the film Castaway

    After that Captain Phillips The Terminal Tully and finish up with Philadelphia very unlucky man Tom Hanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Anyone else feel like we are living in a virtual reality or some kind of nightmare at the moment. Life has changed so so much over the last few days ...and become so precious to those of us who think we invincible.

    Anyone a mild case of anxious depressive, suddenly feeling like the world around them has, as if by magic, been starting to sync up with how they are feeling all of the time..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,023 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    rob316 wrote: »
    Do you mind me asking what you do for a living? You have a very blasse view of small business in the ecomony

    Not so much blasse as realistic. I think its something like half of all businesses fail in the first 5 years. Even look around your own City has every shop been exactly the same the last 20+ years? How many cafe's or restaurants have been and gone in the last 5 - 6 years? Are you saying once an old small business closes a new small business can never take its place?



    Employment will return it always does if theres demand.


    Not like life but you dont care about that. Or actually seem to understand business life cycles. Unless everyone becomes tee-total on the whole island barmen will easily find barwork again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,073 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    You too Liz. Try your best not to worry, it's one of our big foes now :)

    You spoke about pleuracy, I'm similar had pneumonia and like you have asthma and a weak enough immune system.

    It is hard not to worry, I have taken a few anixcalm ;) everyone take care


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Little apples will grow again. It’s not as though we are totally broke either. Just under pressure (could last 6 months on rations). What’s the point in her working if we are both dead ? Serious question btw.

    you can survive for 6 months and you want to give up your only paycheck? bear in mind we are looking at a recession here that could make 2007 look like a minor blip.

    surely they can let her work from home though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,768 ✭✭✭threeball


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Little apples will grow again. It’s not as though we are totally broke either. Just under pressure (could last 6 months on rations). What’s the point in her working if we are both dead ? Serious question btw.

    Your chances of dying are extremely low. Hers even moreso. Look at the figures of deaths in Italy in your age range, its tiny. Then take in to consideration that in that population there are people with CF, very severe lung issues and late stage cancer who are most likely the ones who succumb to this disease. I'm not saying you won't get sick but I think perspective is important as stressing yourself out is more damaging than anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Not so much blasse as realistic. I think its something like half of all businesses fail in the first 5 years. Even look around your own City has every shop been exactly the same the last 20+ years? How many cafe's or restaurants have been and gone in the last 5 - 6 years? Are you saying once an old small business closes a new small business can never take its place?



    Employment will return it always does if theres demand.
    You are incredibly optimistic of the simplicity of the economic situation.
    The virus will die off anyway it always does


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    rob316 wrote: »
    Its really not. You can't live forever, reaching that age anything all could get you.

    It is. And it's wrong.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2016to2018

    "UK life expectancy at age 90 years saw little change from figures seen in 2015 to 2017, and remained at 4.1 years for males, and 4.6 years for females. "

    You're just writing off that 4.1/4.6 extra years of life. I'd bet any money if you were 90 you'd rather live those years than be written off as on the way out anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Looks like a 3 series? Not that much car.

    Perhaps, but who says its
    1. A nurse's car
    2. A hospital
    3. Not warranted as a general parking violation?

    I cant say its not any of those things just from looking at those photos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,023 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    ITman88 wrote: »
    You are incredibly optimistic of the simplicity of the economic situation.
    The virus will die off anyway it always does

    Yes it will die off and again unless everyone is tee-total or never again tries to do any DIY jobs, the bar work and DIY work will return again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Not so much blasse as realistic. I think its something like half of all businesses fail in the first 5 years. Even look around your own City has every shop been exactly the same the last 20+ years? How many cafe's or restaurants have been and gone in the last 5 - 6 years? Are you saying once an old small business closes a new small business can never take its place?



    Employment will return it always does if theres demand.


    Not like life but you dont care about that. Or actually seem to understand business life cycles. Unless everyone becomes tee-total on the whole island barmen will easily find barwork again.

    Apologies for contradicting you, I hadn’t realised it was only barmen at risk of job losses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    It has been theorised by lots of posters that the really bad dose doing the rounds in December and early January might have been the virus.

    I haven't seen proof that it was or that it wasn't. That dose was rampant and seemed to be plenty worse than a cold for most. There was a thread on here and all about it.

    Maybe the high pneumonia death rates for at risk groups were only noticed when it hit a very dense population like China. China having been through SARS paid attention and discovered it was a new coronavirus.

    You'll remember the hospitals here were overrun and many restrictions in place for what was reported as a particularly bad flu season.

    I know a few people myself who were hospitalised but recovered eventually.

    It would be good news really if it was because it would mean loads of us already had it, but probably wishful thinking. .

    I think there's no possibility that anyone here had Covid-19 in Dec / early Jan.

    The influenza-like illness incidence from late 2019 to early 2020 correlates strongly with detection rates of influenza viruses, in Ireland principally type A H3N2 before Jan and more recently tybe B. The HSE briefing last month also told us that there weren't an unusual number of hospitalisations due to flu this year.

    There are differences in the pathology between Covid-19 and influenza infections that would be picked up if people had Covid-19. Covid-19 more often leads to acute respiratory distress and has distinctive features seen on autopsy, including e.g. the formation of multinucleated giant cells due to cellular fusion. This was seen in SARS, and has now also been reported also for Covid-19, but it is not a feature of influenza.

    The genome sequences of all the viral isolated all collapse back to an origin dated to November / December 2019. The earliest samples from Wuhan have the same genome sequence as this predicted original sequence, while sequences isolated later show increasing divergence over time. This all gives clear evidence that the virus originated in Wuhan in late 2019.

    If anyone involved in infectious disease control anywhere thought there was even a remote possibility that the SARS-CoV-2 virus did not first appear in Wuhan in late 2019, reaching Europe from January onwards, they could look at samples from earlier to see if they test positive for the virus, or for antibodies to it. The fact that no-one is even considering doing this anywhere tells us that they don't believe that SARS-CoV-2 was present outside China in December 2019.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,023 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    After that Captain Phillips The Terminal Tully and finish up with Philadelphia very unlucky man Tom Hanks.

    Sully aswell; that time he tried flying a plane :pac:


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