CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

skimpydoo · 17-03-2020 01:18AM

amadangomor wrote: »

Could he not text/ring him and say that he noticed him coughing so maybe better to stay inside until he get the test results. Not as easy to do as say but think your friend has to man up and do it.

My mate does not know if he has been tested and I doubt he has as we are only ramping up testing now.

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:18AM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Inflation is good when you're in debt. It reduces the value of your debt.

Also, the ECB have been printing money for years. Inflation has been very low in the Eurozone in the same time period.

All the money right now is leaving stocks and going into government bonds. IE anyone with money right now wants to lend it to those who are already up to their ears in debt and who they know are good for it.

Unfortunately the ECB will fund the banks and they're the last ones we want having it as it will disappear into a black hole. This should go to governments and straight to the individual to spend immediately in the day to day economy

James 007 · 17-03-2020 01:20AM

R.F. wrote: »

Don’t kiss me, I’m Irish

Don't kiss me I'm a virus:eek:

tobefrank321 · 17-03-2020 01:20AM

sonofenoch wrote: »

A treatment for Malaria is showing favorable results for this virus, and readily available too apparently

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3ZsidgpidB2eocFHAVjIL-7deJ7/pub

I'm going to take every treatment with a pinch of salt. Italian doctors supposedly saw results with another drug and yet deaths are at an all time high there. I'm pessimistic about a vaccine too.

Hamsterchops · 17-03-2020 01:21AM

Shn99 wrote: »

Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead

Worry and angst can be like a virus too, so don't let it get a grip, or you'll pass it on to others. Stay positive, stay healthy and remember that the glass is always half full

tobefrank321 · 17-03-2020 01:21AM

Last time we bailed out the banks.

This time the banks must bail us out.

Fakediamond · 17-03-2020 01:21AM

Shn99 wrote: »

Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead

Of course, I’m full of nervous energy that I don’t what to do with. It’s fear of the unknown and anxiety for myself, my family and the wider society.

And then I calm down a bit and tell myself that we must hold onto hope, And that while this is a terrible time, it will get better and some kind of normality will return. We have to keep a flicker of positivity going, previous generations got through world wars, famine, poverty and we shall too.

bekker · 17-03-2020 01:21AM

ITman88 wrote: »

Apologies for contradicting you, I hadn’t realised it was only barmen at risk of job losses.

It's going to take quite a while for people to come to understand that the worldwide economic landscape has changed.

I'm trying to condense my verbiage so I'll omit my reasoning, and to be honest by the end of it I just hadn't the heart.

So have a happy St. Patrick's, get out and enjoy it, but take care to keep at least a 2 metre distance.

I'm off to get a nightcap.

r93kaey5p2izun · 17-03-2020 01:22AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

A horde of children you say! So what's the point of kids being out of school (to avoid contact with each other), only to have hoards of them congragating outside of a school environment :cool:

Exactly. Their parents are useless and should be fined. Most parents are not failing though. Deal with the wasters, don't abandon the scientifically supported suppression measure.

ThePopehimself · 17-03-2020 01:22AM

rob316 wrote: »

Your looking at if you were born in that time you may live to 90.
At this time if you reach 90 now it a phenomenal age to reach in any part of the world, I wouldn't know many. What sort of quality of life do you have at that age?

Hey there Boaty McBoatface,

Ever hear of these two? David Attenborough / Queen Elizabeth II???

Both well past 90 and loving it!

bilston · 17-03-2020 01:22AM

flynnlives wrote: »

The surge is coming. Probably 10 days out.

My guesstimate is 8 weeks of this kinda lockdown.
After that some normality will resume.

Two problems i can foresee:

Gob****es getting complacent and not staying indoors.

The UK experiment ****ing up all the effort we are making now.

The UK appears to be abandoning it's experiment...although it still isn't closing schools...albeit a lot are doing it themselves.

murpho999 · 17-03-2020 01:22AM

Shn99 wrote: »

Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead

It could happen but if it does then we're all in it together as will the rest of the world so I think we'll all be fine.

If contained properly then the health system will cope even though it will be tough (Health service is not as bad as people make out- inefficient but the treatment is second to none).

The economic damage will be huge but the country will have to manage it and things will recover quickly when it things start to normalise again.

Biggest issue for me will be people's well being and mental health. Isolation and being house bound will cause a lot of problems over the long term.

Sausage_blaa · 17-03-2020 01:22AM

The more and more I read this thread the more and more I'm getting sick of the people that keep having such a negitive response to it..all I hear is we're going to die...we're going into lockdown...this country is ****ed just roll over and die..if I was to believe every poster on this I'd have the virus, my mother, sister, brother, uncle, aunt and so on would have it and we be all nearly dead if not dead already..I'm trying my best to stop it getting to my family but no matter how hard i try it'll probably hit 1 or 2 of us and hopefully we'll survive...but if I was to listen to all the **** on this thread you'd probably have me in my coffin already with all my family and not allowed any mourners...but hey I'm still alive and so are all my family thank god...this thread is damaging..this thread would be a nicer place without all the bull**** (scaremongers)

Stay safe people we will get through this

fr336 · 17-03-2020 01:24AM

seenitall wrote: »

Anyone a mild case of anxious depressive, suddenly feeling like the world around them has, as if by magic, been starting to sync up with how they are feeling all of the time..?

Yes! It's like everyone is on my page now! And I really regret it.

Cody montana · 17-03-2020 01:24AM

Can’t sleep.
Still in bed shivering but roasting.

I’ve only a dry throat though.
Will see if things improve tomorrow and ring the doctor.

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:24AM

Shn99 wrote: »

Anyone else really nervous? Worried that we are about to face into a crisis that our country might not be able to contain, a potentially crippled health service, a recession, months of isolation...tough times ahead

People need to be more pragmatic and stop worrying about stuff you can't change. It's a waste of time and energy. Baz Luhrmann had it right.

Cilldara_2000 · 17-03-2020 01:24AM

threeball wrote: »

Unfortunately the ECB will fund the banks and they're the last ones we want having it as it will disappear into a black hole. This should go to governments and straight to the individual to spend immediately in the day to day economy

They have already started "giving" more money to governments, see the Asset Purchase Programme. This is printing money and handing it to the member states in practice. Tbh I prefer that over payments directly to individuals (I believe a $1,000 cheque to everyone in the US it has been mooted) as the government is in a position to direct it to where it's most needed.

Withrax · 17-03-2020 01:25AM

Chloroquine is a derivative of quinine, which is an ingredient in tonic water. Uncancel St Patricks day, gin and tonics for everyone!!

seenitall · 17-03-2020 01:25AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Hey there Boaty McBoatface,

Ever hear of these two? David Attenborough / Queen Elizabeth II???

Both well past 90 and loving it!

Mel Brooks, too. Good vintage, that 1926. (Well, except for poor Marilyn...)

Hamsterchops · 17-03-2020 01:25AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Can’t sleep.
Still in bed shivering but roasting.

I’ve only a dry throat though.
Will see if things improve tomorrow and ring the doctor.

Have you got it?

tobefrank321 · 17-03-2020 01:26AM

Sausage_blaa wrote: »

The more and more I read this thread the more and more I'm getting sick of the people that keep having such a negitive response to it..all I hear is we're going to die...we're going into lockdown...this country is ****ed just roll over and die..if I was to believe every poster on this I'd have the virus, my mother, sister, brother, uncle, aunt and so on would have it and we be all nearly dead if not dead already..I'm trying my best to stop it getting to my family but no matter how hard i try it'll probably hit 1 or 2 of us and hopefully we'll survive...but if I was to listen to all the **** on this thread you'd probably have me in my coffin already with all my family and not allowed any mourners...but hey I'm still alive and so are all my family thank god...this thread is damaging..this thread would be a nicer place without all the bull**** (scaremongers)

Stay safe people we will get through this

Dying is only a small part of it. Economic decline is just as serious.

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:27AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Hey there Boaty McBoatface,

Ever hear of these two? David Attenborough / Queen Elizabeth II???

Both well past 90 and loving it!

I hope we don't lose Attenborough to this.

ITman88 · 17-03-2020 01:27AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Can you explain how teachers, builders and barmen will not get new jobs in their profession?

You seem to realise schools, building and bars arent going to be closed forever or become extinct professions so why wont the staff be able to get jobs when they re-open?

It’s not so simple PJ.
And I’m not a good enough debater but I will try and articulate.
Let’s use the barmen example.
Some of those people will get jobs back. . . But lots won’t.
Do you think the tourism industry will recover rapidly??
Tourism was a massive industry, the influx of foreign visitors was incredibly lucrative.

1.7 m visitors visited the Guinness storehouse last year mostly foreign visitor’s. They had staffing levels to cope with such. And charged eye watering entrance fees.
Are they going to rehire staff when the don’t have the visitors? No chance.

We won’t see a recovery of tourism for years.
So no not every barman will be in employment.

As regards teachers, they will have jobs but at reduced salaries.

Builders will be required yes, but not as many!!

It’s not about professions becoming extinct, it’s about demand!!

We can’t bury our heads in the sand here, we need to be prepared for what’s ahead

Cilldara_2000 · 17-03-2020 01:29AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Last time we bailed out the banks.

This time the banks must bail us out.

Helps that we still own AIB and PTSB and are the largest shareholder of Bank of Ireland. Judging by Simon Harris comments tonight, they might be told to buck up if they don't do so themselves.

Tbf, they have already stated that they will but they prolly need to do more.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0313/1122038-banking-and-payments-federation-ireland/

"Bank of Ireland said it has a range of supports, including payment breaks or flexible arrangements on mortgages or loans for up to three months that it will discuss with personal customers directly.

Similarly Ulster Bank said personal customers in financial difficulty as a result of the virus may be able to defer their mortgage and loan repayments for up to three months.

AIB said impacted mortgage customers can avail of an interest only or moratoria period of up to six months.

It also said it allows interest-only repayments in certain circumstances and credit options and supports depending on the specific needs of the customer.

Meanwhile, Permanent TSB said it already offers support to customers in financial difficulty, including appropriate treatment options based on an individual's circumstances."

Cody montana · 17-03-2020 01:29AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Have you got it?

I dunno.
I was fine one minute and then really bad within an hour.

J Mysterio · 17-03-2020 01:30AM

Return of the Expert, as the man said.

ThePopehimself · 17-03-2020 01:31AM

Fakediamond wrote: »

Of course, I’m full of nervous energy that I don’t what to do with. It’s fear of the unknown and anxiety for myself, my family and the wider society.

And then I calm down a bit and tell myself that we must hold onto hope, And that while this is a terrible time, it will get better and some kind of normality will return. We have to keep a flicker of positivity going, previous generations got through world wars, famine, poverty and we shall too.

Hey there Fake diamond,
It's gonna be okay, because there are so many of us who care so much (you're one of them) and that's a great start.

We're going to be okay. Do what you need to do for today and anywhere you get stuck - anywhere - reach out

If there's one thing I know, it's that when Sh!t comes to shove, Irish people are second to none in looking after our own.

pH · 17-03-2020 01:32AM

faceman wrote: »

Interview in Rolling Stone magazine with Dr. Richard Leman — a public health physician and Chief Medical Officer, Health Security in the US.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

This is the UKs current model where they opt for suppression (R < 1.0)

It envisages 18 months (but still no guarantees) of fighting the virus in waves, admitting that a soon as we leave lockdown another epidemic will arrive shortly thereafter.

They do concede (however late) that this is still better than their original mitigation (R >1.0) strategy (aka 'flattening the curve') which now they've seen the impact this virus has on ICUs they say would result in hundreds of thousands of deaths.

I'm still hearing people talking about 'flattening the curve' - this is implicitly an R>1 strategy (mitigation not suppression) which no western government should be considering. Some people are mistakenly using this phrase when they really mean suppression (R<1) which is causing considerable confusion.

The UK document is quite readable, and anyone interested in reading what the experts think will happen should take a look.

Quantum Erasure · 17-03-2020 01:33AM

threeball wrote: »

People need to be more pragmatic and stop worrying about stuff you can't change. ....

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

relax, few cans, be grand

Ironicname · 17-03-2020 01:33AM

Cody montana wrote:

Canâ€™t sleep. Still in bed shivering but roasting.

Cody montana wrote:

Iâ€™ve only a dry throat though. Will see if things improve tomorrow and ring the doctor.

I was the same last night. Feel ok today though. Keep us updated

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP