CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

degsie · 15-03-2020 04:47PM

Becks610 wrote: »

Does anyone know if you have a blocked nose, sneezing could this be Covid 19 or is it more likely just a cold. Don’t want to be ringing up wasting peoples time looking for a test when I suspect a cold but I have this 4 days now. I take paracetamol to help but I don’t have a temp.

In the same boat, not sure how to handle this also. I'm thinking of contacting the GP in the morning anyway to get advise, just want to be sure it's nothing more sinister.

Humberto Salazar · 15-03-2020 04:48PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The fu*kwit British government are backpedaling fast on their lunatic ideas about 'Herd Immunity' and infecting 60% of the population.

Matt Hancock, their Secretary of State for Health, is doing the rounds of the chat shows this morning, to deny that 'Herd Immunity' was part of their strategy. However the damage may already have been done, because it will take one to two weeks for the effects of their criminal stupidity to be seen.

That Sir Idiot Vallance, their chief government scientist, and whoever else came up with this crazy notion have a lot to answer for.

Watch out for the Crufts and Cheltenham spikes of infected people next week.

The BIG problem is that Ireland has also been severely damaged by their monumental pompous ineptitude.

The words British government, pissup, brewery and organize come to mind.

Have a lie down, you must be tired after that rant. Wait till you see our temporary government deal with things next week. There'll be space in that brewery believe me.

take everything · 15-03-2020 04:48PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

If you have ideas please let me know... I'm ONLY interested in getting the word out so people have useful information to help protect themselves.

I'm don't have twitter, I don't think I've posted on facebook in over five years etc etc. I only joined here in February because I wanted to ask questions about solar panels because I was hoping to buy a house in September and wanted to be as green as possible.

So, if you have ideas about posting elsewhere I'm all ears.

Pseudonym what is your impression of the UK strategy.

dan786 · 15-03-2020 04:48PM

UK UPDATE:

There have been 1,372 confirmed infections, a rise of 232 in a day.

The number of people who have died after testing positive for coronavirus in the UK has risen by 14 - the largest increase in a 24-hour period.

There are now a total of 35 fatalities.

Ger Roe · 15-03-2020 04:48PM

Cody montana wrote: »

There’s no need to panic in your eyes?

Not unless you are in the airport and are travelling through Terminal Three.

Pseudonym121 · 15-03-2020 04:48PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Big jump in deaths in the UK since yesterday, up to 35 now.

Sadly that's only getting started. 14 deaths a day will look like a lovely relief a month from now in the UK.

wakka12 · 15-03-2020 04:49PM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239216150954811394?s=20

The growth in the UK seems stable though,
Compared to other biggest countries in Europe Spain France Italy Germany where growth seems to be accelerating daily

alastair · 15-03-2020 04:49PM

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

I was talking about international travel coming in to Ireland from affected areas, no realistic possibility of closing the border with NI it would have to be done between NI and the UK

All areas are effected. The only useful measure that can be applied at this stage is to limit person to person infection - which makes travel involving close proximity the issue - not anyone’s nationality. The genie has already left the bottle. Self isolation is the only useful measure, not national isolation.

kevin12345 · 15-03-2020 04:49PM

dan786 wrote: »

UK UPDATE:

There have been 1,372 confirmed infections, a rise of 232 in a day.

The number of people who have died after testing positive for coronavirus in the UK has risen by 14 - the largest increase in a 24-hour period.

There are now a total of 35 fatalities.

I'm seeing online that they have stopped community testing in the UK and are now only testing those in hospital presenting with symptoms. Does anyone know if this is true?

Pseudonym121 · 15-03-2020 04:49PM

cnocbui wrote: »

My thanks to you and your colleagues.

I am fortunate to live outside an urban area and have taken to increasing my level of fitness by increasing exercise with long hill walks, as I understand that is likely beneficial for the immune system. The scenery helps.

That's lovely, seems very peaceful.

threeball · 15-03-2020 04:49PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Big jump in deaths in the UK since yesterday, up to 35 now.

Wait til Wednesday. They'll have 35 a day. Pure lunacy.

fritzelly · 15-03-2020 04:50PM

St Patrick is currently walking round Temple Bar driving the virus out

IAMAMORON · 15-03-2020 04:50PM

paddythere wrote: »

Staggering difference in cases/death ratio between Germany and Italy

I think Italy have had the virus months, even as far back as last November/December, they just never knew it.

youreadthat · 15-03-2020 04:50PM

threeball wrote: »

Wait til Wednesday. They'll have 35 a day. Pure lunacy.

If only they’d closed the schools! Derpppp

alastair · 15-03-2020 04:50PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Why are the Germans closing their borders if it makes no difference? Are you saying you know more about this than they do? You sound like you agree with the stupid Brits.

Once again - it’s a measure to discourage travel. But it’s no more effective than discouraging domestic travel. The virus is already in the community.

Computer Science Student · 15-03-2020 04:50PM

Hadleigh Putrid Stepfather wrote: »

Trump is trying to buy a vaccine from a German company for use by the USA only. He is a cartoon villain come to life.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Fake news.

Seriously sometimes people need to step back and just double-check the claim they are perpetuating. Are you implying that Trump wants to purchase the vaccine for US only and will charge an extortionate rate to every other country?

Not only is he not that inhumane, he isn't dumb enough to actually go ahead with something that would so obviously vilify him in the media.

Tony EH · 15-03-2020 04:51PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

The amount of panicking over this virus (understandable).

Makes me wonder if we ever get a pandemic with a virus that has a 100% mortality rate and spreads as easily as coronavirus does, doesn't discriminate on age.

Scientists struggle to produce a vaccine.

The chaos.

It happened after the First World War. Although it wasn't a 100% mortality rate, there was a very severe flu pandemic that killed more people than the war did.

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 04:51PM

fritzelly wrote: »

St Patrick is currently walking round Temple Bar driving the virus out

Walking or driving?

Duke of Url · 15-03-2020 04:51PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Why are the Germans closing their borders if it makes no difference? Are you saying you know more about this than they do? You sound like you agree with the stupid Brits.

I have a feeling that if people are not getting medical attention in there own country. They will cross the border into Germany.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 15-03-2020 04:51PM

normanoffside wrote: »

What are Denmark doing?
Numbers seem to have peaked 5 days ago.

Only testing severe cases

begbysback · 15-03-2020 04:52PM

Hadleigh Putrid Stepfather wrote: »

Trump is trying to buy a vaccine from a German company for use by the USA only. He is a cartoon villain come to life.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

He’s a businessman looking for a supply for his customers, wouldn’t be such a bad thing if he succeeded as it would mean immediate trials.

revelman · 15-03-2020 04:52PM

wakka12 wrote: »

The growth in the UK seems stable though,
Compared to other biggest countries in Europe Spain France Italy Germany where growth seems to be accelerating daily

The U.K. is about a week behind France and Germany and almost 2 weeks behind Germany. Numbers in those countries was similar to the U.K. at this stage (though deaths in Italy were higher - likely related to low testing rate)

Funsterdelux · 15-03-2020 04:52PM

fritzelly wrote: »

St Patrick is currently walking round Temple Bar driving the virus morons out

Fixed that for you

Burts Bee · 15-03-2020 04:52PM

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Well, walks are very low risk but after running the figures for this about 3 weeks ago now I'm very much in the "We need to do EVERYTHING we can to stop spread" camp.

Plus, I think most of my Consultant colleagues and I seem to be taking the view that we not only need to keep ourselves safe for ourselves but also for our patients. There's only 1300 of us employed in the HSE. We need to be there when we're needed --- hence no walks or anything else risky. I don't think walks and exercise need to be banned but I certainly wouldn't be doing them outside. The indoor treadmill or garden is where its at ;-)

Hell, I have a Consultant colleague and friend who is out on fairly long-term sick leave with a very serious issue who is accelerating his return to work so he can be back by the end of the month. He's literally sprinting towards the fire instead of away from it. It makes me proud of the front line staff.

Just wondering about this. What about hiking where there will be no one else? I live v rurally and on most walks I don't meet anyone..

nyarlothothep · 15-03-2020 04:53PM

This is rather poignant

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1238924372867461123

Spook_ie · 15-03-2020 04:53PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Live music at The Temple Bar

https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

Fake news it's shut

rdwight · 15-03-2020 04:54PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I think after all this is over, you will all rightly get the credit deserved.

Around the world in the past we have seen the firemen praised, the police, the military .......at last the health workers will be the heroes they always were.

I've always found the phrase "Thank you for your Service" used by civilians greeting military personnel in the US a bit irritating for no particular reason. But it's certainly appropriate for the front line medical people here during this crisis.

Pseudonym121 · 15-03-2020 04:55PM

take everything wrote: »

Pseudonym what is your impression of the UK strategy.

I am planning to do a writeup of that if Boards allows me a thread to keep my answers together so they can be found easily...

But in the meantime I can say this. Their strategy seems to be based on the idea that once they get 60% infected they'll have herd immunity and if they can get to 60% in a controlled fashion they can stop their ventilator resources being overwhelmed and keep the death rate down to 2% instead of closing in on the 10% it would be without ventilators.

I think that theoretically it could work so long as you are willing to accept high casualties ( 60 Million x 60% infected x 2% mortality = 720,000 ) of up to three quarters of a million dead.

If we didn't have the examples of Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan and Shanghai to look at I think the British population might tolerate their plan BUT with those examples of the impact of rigid lockdowns and massive contact tracing leading to very low infection rates and death rates I don't think the British plan is actually sustainable.

I believe that individual groupings within British society will act unilaterally and close themselves and I think fear as the death rate rises will cause people to self-isolate such that they don't get the 60% infected rate they are looking for before October --- when they expect a much larger wave of illness will sweep the world.

So, I think it might work in a laboratory and on paper but I don't give it much chance in the real world. It doesn't take into account the human factor.

I think Ireland needs to get a lot stricter than it currently is but already our national strategy for tackling this is MUCH better than the UK's. I think we are going to come out of this a lot better than them --- which is sad because people or people and saying that means more people dying in the UK than should. Very sad

Bob24 · 15-03-2020 04:55PM

alastair wrote: »

The genie has already left the bottle. Self isolation is the only useful measure, not national isolation.

Both are required. The first one reduces propagation within the country and the second one prevents imported cases. You can’t ask your population to make significant efforts and at the same time let people enter the country unchecked and from areas whereby the situation might be out of control.

All the countries which have managed to flatten the curve are Asian ones which reacted quickly and combined both containment inside the country and bans/restrictions for incoming travellers.

China which is in the front row to understand this crisis understands this: now that they have stabilised the situation the are forcing a 14 days supervised quarantine at your own cost on anyone coming from abroad. I think it is a good compromise at if someone really needs to go they can, but it is done in a safe way and the measure will discourage most people and ensure only essential travel goes on.

nocoverart · 15-03-2020 04:56PM

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better are we handling it than the UK?

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP