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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6092
    pawdee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭pawdee


    pjohnson wrote: »
    The most American part of your post

    Au contraire bon jour! A public display of ignorance by you there PJ. It's a Flann O' Brien reference. Heard of him? Ireland's greatest ever comic writer. Oh well.


  • #6093
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    I really think it puts into perspective all the quotes we hear from the politicians that 'we can't contain this' and 'we'll just have to let it run it's course' sort of thing.



    If a country with a population of 1.2 billion people can contain up to a point of <100,000 infections then the rest of the world can too, it needs massive ammounts of resources and cooperation i get that, but it could have be done.
    Taiwan another example of getting on top of it. The difference being the societies involved. More social compliance for a start. Compliance to elders and society is a virtue in Confucian thinking and wherever that's an influence that spills over into wider society and how people tend to operate. While it exists because people, there is less of the I'm alright Jack mentality going on.

    Plus by the nature of their governance the authorities hopped on it much more quickly. They don't care about votes and could go to a war footing more quickly. This headed off much of the kinda panic bogroll buying we see in western societies. It also imposed social order over those who would be in denial and/or morons. No drunkards crammed into pubs, nor going off to Cheltenham and the like. That was all stopped dead near overnight. Then the mass mobilisation of frontline medical and other vital personnel.

    Again western democracies, while a much better bet in "peacetime" tend to take a wait and see approach until the poo really hits the propeller. Now it's a tragedy for Italy, but seeing the poo hit the propeller there may save other nations because they'll get their finger out. Hopefully...

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #6094
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    No one seems to be mentioning the dangers of grocery shopping itself. How many people especially kids handle stuff and then put them back....bread itself a lot would squeeze it for freshness rather than check the date. Sure a lot of the boxes and wrappers could be contaminated and folk are rushing out to bring this stuff back home..
    Easy now. Just wash it when you get it home and your hands. Either toast the bread or put it in the freezer.


  • #6095
    Denisoftus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Any reports of what shops are like today?

    Went to Lidl yesterday, it was quieter then normal Saturday, but like someone said it depends on location. No issues with stock also.


  • #6096
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    kwestfan08 wrote: »
    But isn't it the same wait staff going from table to table? Like how is that not spreading the virus around?

    Mostly optics like most of these things


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  • #6097
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    How do people see this ending? I just don't see how it completely "dies out"


  • #6098
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    For this to be conquered, all of Europe needs to act singularly, together.
    The whole continent needs to lock down in unison for however long it takes to reverse the incline.
    No point us doing it this week, France next week, England in two weeks etc.

    A joint lock down all at the same time.

    (and that Cheltenham crowd should be treated as lepers were.)


  • #6099
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Public transport aswell I assume?

    Bus services are being pulled, here in Waterford a private operator with quite important routes has stopped. TFI/Bus Éireann will be the last ones running you'd think.

    edit sticky updates here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058061356#
    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I went out for a meal last night.

    I went to a restaurant with people I live with. The restaurant practiced social distancing with wide spaces between tables.

    I was impressed with how the restaurant handled the situation. I had hope that we would be able to have a limited restaurant trade continue through this crisis. Then I got home and saw the **** in temple bar.

    Now I fear that new legislation will be passed on Monday and orders issued to close all pubs cafes and restaurants.

    Yep, there needs to be a way to licence premises that can stay open - some have space esp those that have outdoor areas, like GrowHQ locally. Spring will arrive at some point!


  • #6100
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    No one seems to be mentioning the dangers of grocery shopping itself. How many people especially kids handle stuff and then put them back....bread itself a lot would squeeze it for freshness rather than check the date. Sure a lot of the boxes and wrappers could be contaminated and folk are rushing out to bring this stuff back home..

    Auld lad earlier in Tesco Maynooth literally fondling the packs of sausages! Would pick one up and give them an aul squeeze and a rub and put back on shelf.

    One woman was getting stuff from back of shelf so had her whole arm up to the armpit sitting on the stuff at the front as she reached back. Selfish yoke.


  • #6101
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark all approaching 1000 cases now
    Germany now has over 5000 cases
    USA has reached 3000

    Roughly 45,000 cases in Europe now, probably at least 100,000 in reality.


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  • #6102
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭take everything


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    I’m starting to wonder if this is how the dinosaurs felt?

    At least they stopped going to pubs


  • #6103
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Mod

    DrunkMonkey unless you're willing to post a source for you claims, don't bother posting them, all you're doing is scaremongering, so stop please.


  • #6104
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Italy has twice the critical care resources of either Ireland or UK. Not inspring from our point of view.

    Its going to be tough for the uk to enforce the 4 month isolation for the elderly. Very headstrong group of people.
    Italy have about 160 times our number of cases.


  • #6105
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    How do people see this ending? I just don't see how it completely "dies out"

    Well it did in Wuhan/China. So it can happen


  • #6106
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    How do people see this ending? I just don't see how it completely "dies out"

    Numbers peaking in summer, under control by October, flair up again around Christmas, vaccine by mid 2021 would be my guess but I'm most likely talking out my arse.


  • #6107
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Auld lad earlier in Tesco Maynooth literally fondling the packs of sausages! Would pick one up and give them an aul squeeze and a rub and put back on shelf.

    One woman was getting stuff from back of shelf so had her whole arm up to the armpit sitting on the stuff at the front as she reached back. Selfish yoke.
    Was she good looking


  • #6108
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    firemansam4 wrote: »
    I live in Donegal and there are many people crossing the border to work here, including nurses at the hospital, they will still have children going to schools in the North.

    You still have politics in the North playing a big part in this with Arlene going to follow what ever the rest of the UK does.
    I dare say if Borris decides to start shooting infected people in England, Arlene would want to follow suit because they want to be like the rest of the UK...


    I was confused when Arlene criticised the Taoiseach for not consulting her on our measures, despite the fact she has no intention of taking Varadkar's ideas on board and will follow what the rest of the UK does anyway.

    I'm convinced her annoyance was more from worry that since she wasn't aware in advance of the Republic's plans she might have accidentally carried out the same plan for NI. This would have given an impression of a united front in Ireland, which is the worst case scenario for the DUP. A higher death rate from the disease would be preferable to them.


  • #6109
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,014 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Bus services are being pulled, here in Waterford a private operator with quite important routes has stopped. TFI/Bus Éireann will be the last ones running you'd think.



    Yep, there needs to be a way to licence premises that can stay open - some have space esp those that have outdoor areas, like GrowHQ locally. Spring will arrive at some point!

    Oh yeah private ones are gone. Bus Eireann will probably reduce inter-city travel aswell but rural services will have to continue.


  • #6110
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Bus services are being pulled, here in Waterford a private operator with quite important routes has stopped. TFI/Bus Éireann will be the last ones running you'd think.



    Yep, there needs to be a way to licence premises that can stay open - some have space esp those that have outdoor areas, like GrowHQ locally. Spring will arrive at some point!

    Feck pubs and restaurants for the next month.


  • #6111
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,776 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    No one seems to be mentioning the dangers of grocery shopping itself. How many people especially kids handle stuff and then put them back....bread itself a lot would squeeze it for freshness rather than check the date. Sure a lot of the boxes and wrappers could be contaminated and folk are rushing out to bring this stuff back home..

    Could be an idea to have a repetitive annoying announcement in stores and a leaflet at the entrance...

    “Goods must not be handled or examined and put back, please take what you need as efficiently as possible and proceed to the tills for payment”


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  • #6112
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark all approaching 1000 cases now
    At this stage I would say the level of daily increase is of more interest than raw totals. In other words is there any sign of it flattening?


  • #6113
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Was she good looking

    Actually wasn't doing as much of my usual checking out of d'wimmin as usual, must be going into survival mode :D


  • #6114
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Strumms wrote: »
    Could be an idea to have a repetitive annoying announcement in stores and a leaflet at the entrance...

    “Goods must not be handled or examined and put back, please take what you need as efficiently as possible and proceed to the tills for payment”

    Wouldn't the leaflet spread the virus


  • #6115
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I was confused when Arlene criticised the Taoiseach for not consulting her on our measures, despite the fact she has no intention of taking Varadkar's ideas on board and will follow what the rest of the UK does anyway.

    I'm convinced her annoyance was more from worry that since she wasn't aware in advance of the Republic's plans she might have accidentally carried out the same plan for NI. This would have given an impression of a united front in Ireland, which is the worst case scenario for the DUP. A higher death rate from the disease would be preferable to them.

    The big sour head on her on the news last night..........one could only laugh


  • #6116
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark all approaching 1000 cases now
    Germany now has over 5000 cases
    USA has reached 3000

    Roughly 45,000 cases in Europe now

    Numbers untested, asymptomatic, etc, obviously much more than those, always worth keeping in mind.


  • #6117
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Strumms wrote: »
    Could be an idea to have a repetitive annoying announcement in stores and a leaflet at the entrance...

    “Goods must not be handled or examined and put back, please take what you need as efficiently as possible and proceed to the tills for payment”
    It's really only stuff that people paw and that is exposed. Anything else can be washed.


  • #6118
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Wouldn't the leaflet spread the virus

    Info poster presume he means


  • #6119
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    is_that_so wrote: »
    At this stage I would say the level of daily increase is of more interest than raw totals. In other words is there any sign of it flattening?

    Most countries are no longer interested in containment anyy longer and only serious cases are being counted in many countries now too so its not really possible to tell


  • #6120
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Oh yeah private ones are gone. Bus Eireann will probably reduce inter-city travel aswell but rural services will have to continue.

    We’re off to the beach today picnic made all our own food plus flask passed Aldi in car, a guy coming out with a trolley nearly full of toilet paper.So it’s still going on ..


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  • #6121
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    I really think it puts into perspective all the quotes we hear from the politicians that 'we can't contain this' and 'we'll just have to let it run it's course' sort of thing.



    If a country with a population of 1.2 billion people can contain up to a point of <100,000 infections then the rest of the world can too, it needs massive ammounts of resources and cooperation i get that, but it could have be done.
    Not necessarily so, using face recognition cameras as an index for social control, China is a country with such overwhelming surveillance in urban areas that they impose control on spitting through facial recognition. Maybe UK, Russia, Singapore and possibly ROK have a sufficient density of cameras to attempt, but UK at least does not have the linked sanctioning capability.


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