CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

pawdee · 15-03-2020 12:28PM

Watching this thread over the last week or so I notice so many Americanisms being used. Not so long ago if you used any of them you'd be considered a bit of an asrehole. Three examples.......

Lockdown
Do the math
My bad

Also, (and I don't know if this one is an Americanism) but when people finish a post with "Thoughts?" I reach for my revolver.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-03-2020 12:28PM

I went out for a meal last night.

I went to a restaurant with people I live with. The restaurant practiced social distancing with wide spaces between tables.

I was impressed with how the restaurant handled the situation. I had hope that we would be able to have a limited restaurant trade continue through this crisis. Then I got home and saw the **** in temple bar.

Now I fear that new legislation will be passed on Monday and orders issued to close all pubs cafes and restaurants.

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 12:29PM

beolight wrote: »

Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) Tweeted:
Germany has c. 25,000 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
France has 5,065 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
Why does Germany have five times more?
All of a sudden this matters!
@TobiasBuckFT @davideghiglione
https://t.co/tpcdcm1uRH https://t.co/0JkkdUN2wK

We need some journalists to ask Minister Harris how many ventilators do we have?
Looking at that chart Andorra has better facilities than us

250 according to this and another 60 purchased.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/medics-raise-concerns-about-staffing-levels-as-hse-stocks-up-on-ventilators-1.4201544

SuperTortoise · 15-03-2020 12:29PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

the UK have 1 ventilator per 12,000 people id imagine we’d have something similar.So id say approx 500

We have 250 ventilators for the entire country.

pjohnson · 15-03-2020 12:29PM

pawdee wrote: »

Watching this thread over the last week or so I notice so many Americanisms being used. Not so long ago if you used any of them you'd be considered a bit of an asrehole. Three examples.......

Lockdown
Do the math
My bad

Also, (and I don't know if this one is an Americanism) but when people finish a post with "Thoughts?" I reach for my revolver.

The most American part of your post

tobefrank321 · 15-03-2020 12:29PM

pawdee wrote: »

Watching this thread over the last week or so I notice so many Americanisms being used. Not so long ago if you used any of them you'd be considered a bit of an asrehole. Three examples.......

Lockdown
Do the math
My bad

Also, (and I don't know if this one is an Americanism) but when people finish a post with "Thoughts?" I reach for my revolver.

This is what you are worried about?

kevcos · 15-03-2020 12:30PM

beolight wrote: »

Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) Tweeted:
Germany has c. 25,000 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
France has 5,065 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
Why does Germany have five times more?
All of a sudden this matters!
@TobiasBuckFT @davideghiglione
https://t.co/tpcdcm1uRH https://t.co/0JkkdUN2wK

We need some journalists to ask Minister Harris how many ventilators do we have?
Looking at that chart Andorra has better facilities than us

By extension, looking at that chart would you also infer that Romania has x3 better facilitates and Bulgaria has x2 better facilities than Ireland?

pjohnson · 15-03-2020 12:31PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I went out for a meal last night.

I went to a restaurant with people I live with. The restaurant practiced social distancing with wide spaces between tables.

I was impressed with how the restaurant handled the situation. I had hope that we would be able to have a limited restaurant trade continue through this crisis. Then I got home and saw the **** in temple bar.

Now I fear that new legislation will be passed on Monday and orders issued to close all pubs cafes and restaurants.

Theres too many idiots to let them stay open.

amacca · 15-03-2020 12:31PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

the UK have 1 ventilator per 12,000 people id imagine we’d have something similar.So id say approx 500

I dont know about ventilators but we are way down on ICU beds per hundreds of thousands heads of population

less than UK

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 12:31PM

pjohnson wrote: »

The most American part of your post

He means the album

castletownman · 15-03-2020 12:31PM

If the pubs are to close on Monday, you kbow what that means....an apocalyptic amount of pints today.

Nibs05 · 15-03-2020 12:32PM

People are still able to go out and walk around in Milan it’s not the end of the world.

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/lombardia/milano/duomo-milano.html

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 12:32PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I went out for a meal last night.

I went to a restaurant with people I live with. The restaurant practiced social distancing with wide spaces between tables.

I was impressed with how the restaurant handled the situation. I had hope that we would be able to have a limited restaurant trade continue through this crisis.

Now I fear that new legislation will be passed on Monday and orders issued to close all pubs cafes and restaurants.

Legislation can't just be approved without the stages and a fully functioning Dail. If anything it will come via changes to the DoH advice but this still seems like the army on the streets rumour of last week.

20silkcut · 15-03-2020 12:33PM

PhantomHat wrote: »

That's sobering. Although one has to keep in mind that depends on official figures from China. I suspect there are swathes of Chinese deaths that have been unaccounted for

Carmen regan on the radio now saying 5% mortality rate.

The Chinese were lying.
That is absolutely no surprise.

dermiek · 15-03-2020 12:33PM

pawdee wrote: »

Watching this thread over the last week or so I notice so many Americanisms being used. Not so long ago if you used any of them you'd be considered a bit of an asrehole. Three examples.......

Lockdown
Do the math
My bad

Also, (and I don't know if this one is an Americanism) but when people finish a post with "Thoughts?" I reach for my revolver.

Hmmm.

Thoughts?

:pac:

Strumms · 15-03-2020 12:33PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

I’m starting to wonder if this is how the dinosaurs felt?

Me too, maybe a velociraptor was stood under a tree thinking... “ fûck it, I’ll be up early in the morning, hit Tesco, then Aldi, I better fill up the car too... MAUREEN ! Make a list yet ? You’ll be giving out if I forget your Jaffa cakes !”

Atlantic Dawn · 15-03-2020 12:33PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

the UK have 1 ventilator per 12,000 people id imagine we’d have something similar.So id say approx 500

We have 250 based on what doctors have said and ordered an extra 72 according to Irish Times...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/medics-raise-concerns-about-staffing-levels-as-hse-stocks-up-on-ventilators-1.4201544?mode=amp

Funsterdelux · 15-03-2020 12:33PM

pawdee wrote: »

Watching this thread over the last week or so I notice so many Americanisms being used. Not so long ago if you used any of them you'd be considered a bit of an asrehole. Three examples.......

Lockdown
Do the math
My bad

Also, (and I don't know if this one is an Americanism) but when people finish a post with "Thoughts?" I reach for my revolver.

And heres you typing in english

Language is fluid

1800_Ladladlad · 15-03-2020 12:33PM

Such a conscious disregard for the health many many people, shown by a vile person in S Korea, who refused to be tested and to social distance themselves, instead, they went to church and a buffet lunch, is the source of over 1,000 infections.

See the tracking below.

https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html

15-03-2020 12:34PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I went out for a meal last night.

I went to a restaurant with people I live with. The restaurant practiced social distancing with wide spaces between tables.

I was impressed with how the restaurant handled the situation. I had hope that we would be able to have a limited restaurant trade continue through this crisis. Then I got home and saw the **** in temple bar.

Now I fear that new legislation will be passed on Monday and orders issued to close all pubs cafes and restaurants.

Man who went out last night annoyed that others went out...

Fiery mutant · 15-03-2020 12:34PM

Necro wrote: »

1. They need to use their annual leave as it stands or other leave such as parental if available. If not, force majeure.

2. Illness Benefit

3. Illness Benefit

4 - That's the biggest unknown right now. Government say to keep paying where possible but if they can't then they would have to sign on

The company I work for have told us that any staff who may need to self isolate, will get their full pay, t&c’s apply.

JanuarySnowstor · 15-03-2020 12:34PM

No one seems to be mentioning the dangers of grocery shopping itself. How many people especially kids handle stuff and then put them back....bread itself a lot would squeeze it for freshness rather than check the date. Sure a lot of the boxes and wrappers could be contaminated and folk are rushing out to bring this stuff back home..

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 12:35PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

Any reports of what shops are like today?

Fine for me, a little busier than a normal Sunday, but well-stocked with the usual exceptions.

johnmcdnl · 15-03-2020 12:35PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

the UK have 1 ventilator per 12,000 people id imagine we’d have something similar.So id say approx 500

It appears we might have around 250, but some possible concerns that we mightn't have staff to operate more even if we ordered more.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/medics-raise-concerns-about-staffing-levels-as-hse-stocks-up-on-ventilators-1.4201544

The HSE would not disclose the number of ventilators in the Irish system but said that it had purchased an additional 12 portable ventilators and 60 intensive care unit (ICU) ventilators, though a series of doctors put the number at 250.

“We will run out of appropriate staff to operate the ventilators we have before we run out of ventilators,” said Michael O’Dwyer, head of department of anaesthesia and critical care at St Vincent’s University Hospital in Dublin.

kwestfan08 · 15-03-2020 12:35PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I went out for a meal last night.

I went to a restaurant with people I live with. The restaurant practiced social distancing with wide spaces between tables.

I was impressed with how the restaurant handled the situation. I had hope that we would be able to have a limited restaurant trade continue through this crisis. Then I got home and saw the **** in temple bar.

Now I fear that new legislation will be passed on Monday and orders issued to close all pubs cafes and restaurants.

But isn't it the same wait staff going from table to table? Like how is that not spreading the virus around?

joseywhales · 15-03-2020 12:35PM

It's hard to imagine that we have the discipline to enact what was done in wuhan. Nobody stepping out of line, a system of reward and punishment per community over how long a period they can remain symptom free in their community. Normally I despise that level of overbearing authority but it is absolute genius in the circumstances. We are miles away from thta. And our culture is probably one of the least amenable to authoritarianism. As I say usually that's a very good thing but currently it is a disaster waiting to happen.

Lord TSC · 15-03-2020 12:35PM

Man, I knew the lockdown would be harsh, but if it's true you can't even go for a walk, then thats a massive bummer.

And don't get me wrong, I appreciate why it's being done and will obviously do so. But I figured that even with a lock down, I'd hopefully be able to go for a walk around the estate from an exercise point of view.

I suffer from bad hip pains if I don't go for a regular walk. When i go for a walk, it's on my own, and obviously don't come near anyone. I thought THAT might have been allowed, but I'm guessing a zero tollerance policy is easier to enforce?

tobefrank321 · 15-03-2020 12:36PM

beolight wrote: »

Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) Tweeted:
Germany has c. 25,000 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
France has 5,065 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
Why does Germany have five times more?
All of a sudden this matters!
@TobiasBuckFT @davideghiglione
https://t.co/tpcdcm1uRH https://t.co/0JkkdUN2wK

We need some journalists to ask Minister Harris how many ventilators do we have?
Looking at that chart Andorra has better facilities than us

Italy has twice the critical care resources of either Ireland or UK. Not inspring from our point of view.

Its going to be tough for the uk to enforce the 4 month isolation for the elderly. Very headstrong group of people.

SuperTortoise · 15-03-2020 12:36PM

kevcos wrote: »

By extension, looking at that chart would you also infer that Romania has x3 better facilitates and Bulgaria has x2 better facilities than Ireland?

For this particular illness they have yes, this illness attacks the lungs, of those who fall seriously ill from covid19 an awful lot will require a ventilator to keep them alive, numbers of ventilators matter, hugely.

Syncpolice · 15-03-2020 12:36PM

castletownman wrote: »

If the pubs are to close on Monday, you kbow what that means....an apocalyptic amount of pints today.

I presume gardai not doing much checkpointing ATM

Drink drivers tomorrow likely get away with it

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP