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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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    #6032
    Wombatman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Employers have an obligation to inform staff of their plans and what entitlements staff have in various scenarios. What is a member of staff entitled to if:

    1. They have to take time off to look after kids or sick people.

    2. They have to self isolate.

    3. They become sick and have to take time off work.

    4. There workplace closes. Short, medium, long term.


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    #6033
    Bob24
    Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    That is irrelevant... what is important is the capacity of the Chinese health system to cope with the numbers.

    25 cases in a country of 1.7 billion... no big deal.

    They’ll have to monitor it closely though. They don’t want another Wuhan.


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    #6034
    Genghis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭Genghis


    d51984 wrote: »
    The photos of the cars for the Guards are Genuine. There only rentals. They will be used for transporting members from stations to areas for patrol. Or welfare calls. They won't be frontline response vehicles.

    They will free up Marked cars and undercover cars for front line duty's.

    Wonder why do they need to put Garda on them if not frontline response?


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    #6035
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Chinese officials release an update on where there infections originated every day.
    A big turnaround on how they released figures at the start
    TBF to them they have been doing this for weeks after their initial denial of a problem.


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    #6036
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Why did Varadkar say that people in pubs are being ****s... We know they are, yet some people here also saw all this coming, and they thought we were low risk and stop travel. He's just as much of a bigger dick than the rest of them in the pubs.


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    #6037
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    le_girl wrote: »
    Quick question, maybe someone has an idea.

    In the case of a lockdown, is the postal service still likely to be running? I run a small online business and send orders three times a week. I've stocked up on supplies and stamps. I can fit then in any post box, they're just envelopes so I won't need to go to the post office, just run up the street to the nearest box.

    I know this isn't a life or death question but if I can keep my business going during this it would make a big difference to me.

    I heard that in Italy it's still running but I'm guessing not an efficiently as normal.

    Im a postman, working normally next week, as of now anyway


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    #6038
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Is China still on lockdown ?

    No, normal life has resumed especially in major cities like Shanghai. People still wearing face masks and gloves and being very careful though, but yes everybody is allowed outside now


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    #6039
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Genghis wrote: »
    Wonder why do they need to put Garda on them if not frontline response?
    Apart from the "crime" of drinking in a pub might we see a falloff in other forms of crime , I wonder?


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    #6040
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Bob24 wrote: »
    It’s being gradually relaxed in Hubei province, and the rest of the country is more or less business as usual but with basic social distancing and hygiene measures in place and many proactive measures.

    Anyone entering the country from abroad (including Chinese citizens) is also required to go into a 14 days quarantine at a designated hotel at their own cost. Which I think is actually a good idea rather than a blanket travel ban (it will discourage most people from going, but some who really wants to can do it in a relatively safe way for the country).
    You can be cynical about the numbers all you want, but what the Chinese have achieved in containing this is nothing short of miraculous in country so densely populated and with a population of over a billion.


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    #6041
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Bob24 wrote: »
    It’s being gradually relaxed in Hubei province, and the rest of the country is more or less business as usual but with basic social distancing and hygiene measures in place and many proactive measures.

    Anyone entering the country from abroad (including Chinese citizens) is also required to go into a 14 days quarantine at a designated hotel at their own cost. Which I think is actually a good idea rather than a blanket travel ban (it will discourage most people from going, but some who really wants to can do it in a relatively safe way for the country).

    Same measures will be interduced in Europe in the future.
    It's definitely the best way forward at the moment


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    #6042
    firemansam4
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    brick tamland wrote:
    Is there any real point in tighter restrictions considering the british policy and our open border up north (plus flights in and out of the county to how many UK airports)?


    I live in Donegal and there are many people crossing the border to work here, including nurses at the hospital, they will still have children going to schools in the North.

    You still have politics in the North playing a big part in this with Arlene going to follow what ever the rest of the UK does.
    I dare say if Borris decides to start shooting infected people in England, Arlene would want to follow suit because they want to be like the rest of the UK...


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    #6043
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    le_girl wrote: »
    Quick question, maybe someone has an idea.

    In the case of a lockdown, is the postal service still likely to be running? I run a small online business and send orders three times a week. I've stocked up on supplies and stamps. I can fit then in any post box, they're just envelopes so I won't need to go to the post office, just run up the street to the nearest box.

    I know this isn't a life or death question but if I can keep my business going during this it would make a big difference to me.

    I heard that in Italy it's still running but I'm guessing not an efficiently as normal.

    I'm sure the following public access retailers would not be closed short of the "end of the world" type situation

    -food and essential groceries retailers
    -pharmacies
    -post offices

    banks will be an interesting one - it's probably true that the great majority of the population has a credit or debit card (or ready access to one in their family circle) but some people are definitely cash only types.


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    #6044
    is_that_so
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    No, normal life has resumed especially in major cities like Shanghai. People still wearing face masks and gloves and being very careful though, but yes everybody is allowed outside now
    Don't they normally wear facemasks for the pollution anyway?


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    #6045
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,170 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    wakka12 wrote: »
    190 new cases in Malaysia this morning. Over 35C there right now. Same in tropical parts of the United States, 40 new cases in Florida this morning.Also more than 50 new cases in Australia and 29 new cases and 3 more deaths in the Phillippines. Now looking very unlikely that hot or tropical weather stops the virus.
    Australia isn’t warm right now. Middle of autumn


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    #6046
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    I misspelleded

    It was adulterers

    Ooooooo PM'ing my number. Pass it on. :D


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    #6047
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Genghis wrote: »
    Wonder why do they need to put Garda on them if not frontline response?

    Builds visibility and confidence. Lets say for example in your estate there's a Guard and they're being dropped home at odd hours, mostly what twitchy neighbors will see is an unfamiliar car going around. Slap a Garda logo on it, no problem. Plus you can't tell how they'll be used - maybe in a pinch they will need one to a call out.


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    #6048
    beolight
    Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) Tweeted:
    Germany has c. 25,000 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
    France has 5,065 intensive care beds equipped with ventilators.
    Why does Germany have five times more?
    All of a sudden this matters!
    @TobiasBuckFT @davideghiglione
    https://t.co/tpcdcm1uRH https://t.co/0JkkdUN2wK


    We need some journalists to ask Minister Harris how many ventilators do we have?
    Looking at that chart Andorra has better facilities than us


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    #6049
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    firemansam4 wrote: »
    I live in Donegal and there are many people crossing the border to work here, including nurses at the hospital, they will still have children going to schools in the North.

    You still have politics in the North playing a big part in this with Arlene going to follow what ever the rest of the UK does.
    I dare say if Borris decides to start shooting infected people in England, Arlene would want to follow suit because they want to be like the rest of the UK...

    Ah, but you see you just assume it's Arlene playing politics. Maybe it's Michelle O'Neill who is playing politics (or whoever it is that tells her what to do).


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    #6050
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I see a major increase in anxiety and mental health issues will happen . I don’t suffer thankfully from mental health problems but I feel my anxiety increasing . I worry for my family , my neighbours , my friends and for people in nursing homes etc
    I can see this being a huge issue in many homes over time

    I feel huge sadness for all the elderly people who are afraid to come outside all because some gob****es can’t stand to be in their own company for a couple of days and stay isolated. And you just know it’s happening. I worry for their mental health down the line. I’d say the fear is crippling


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    #6051
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Employers have an obligation to inform staff of their plans and what entitlements staff have in various scenarios. What is a member of staff entitled to if:

    1. They have to take time off to look after kids or sick people.

    2. They have to self isolate.

    3. They become sick and have to take time off work.

    4. There workplace closes. Short, medium, long term.

    1. They need to use their annual leave as it stands or other leave such as parental if available. If not, force majeure.

    2. Illness Benefit

    3. Illness Benefit

    4 - That's the biggest unknown right now. Government say to keep paying where possible but if they can't then they would have to sign on


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    #6052
    johnnyskeleton
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    splinter65 wrote: »
    Excellent analogy of the UK model

    https://twitter.com/john_mcguirk/status/1238962871100465159?s=21

    Right. So basically the policies followed by Italy and Spain which have lead to the health services being overwhelmed should be followed in the Uk, right up to the magic point where the health service is at max capacity and then they put isolation in place.

    Leaving aside the fact that there is up to a 14 day lag before symptoms, youd need to be pretty clever to know the exact point that the health services will reach full capacity about a week or even two beforehand.

    And the UK have noted supergenius Boris Johnson ready to make that call


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    #6053
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Apart from the "crime" of drinking in a pub might we see a falloff in other forms of crime , I wonder?

    That would be interesting to see.

    If the gards starting stopping everyone on the street.

    Oh im just popping down to get some coke


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    #6054
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Bob24 wrote: »
    They’ll have to monitor it closely though. They don’t want another Wuhan.

    I imagine they are well aware of that.

    The World Health Organization China expert group said that they did not relax when the numbers went down. They were continuing to prepare for whatever the future held.

    Everyone entering China is being quarantined for 14 days so that should limit spread from outside.


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    #6055
    PhoenixParker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    le_girl wrote: »
    Quick question, maybe someone has an idea.

    In the case of a lockdown, is the postal service still likely to be running? I run a small online business and send orders three times a week. I've stocked up on supplies and stamps. I can fit then in any post box, they're just envelopes so I won't need to go to the post office, just run up the street to the nearest box.

    I know this isn't a life or death question but if I can keep my business going during this it would make a big difference to me.

    I heard that in Italy it's still running but I'm guessing not an efficiently as normal.

    They will unless it gets really extreme.
    An post are a vital supply line with everyone in their homes.


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    #6056
    whiskeyman
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    Any reports of what shops are like today?


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    #6057
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    FFS
    And I’ve never had a threesome.

    She probably would prefer the other guy leaving you bumhurt, in every sense of the word :pac:


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    #6058
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,049 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Any reports of what shops are like today?
    Varies. Some have empty bread shelves, some are normal.


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    #6059
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Apart from the "crime" of drinking in a pub might we see a falloff in other forms of crime , I wonder?

    I wish I had your optimism. We'll see a falloff in street crimes but for example junkies who rob phones for cash on the street are going to have to find other ways to feed their habit, doubt there'll be a freeze on bills from dealers.

    Then there's the criminals who already specialise in terrorising and stealing from older folks at home.

    Plus the opportunity to rob lots of closed down shops and warehouses and businesses.

    And that's before you get into the bored teenagers finding the keys to any JCBs.


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    #6060
    Wombatman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Necro wrote: »
    1. They need to use their annual leave as it stands or other leave such as parental if available. If not, force majeure.

    2. Illness Benefit

    3. Illness Benefit

    4 - That's the biggest unknown right now. Government say to keep paying where possible but if they can't then they would have to sign on

    Paid sick leave for 2 and 3 according to company policy?


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    #6061
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Those people in pubs won't be singing and huddling if their lungs sound like they're breathing through a crinkled up brown paper bag which sounds like a straw sucking up the last bits of Coca-Cola and the ice rattling in a paper cup.....


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