Coronavirus

Lonesomerhodes · 11-03-2020 11:50AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

are they pushing fake cures on people?

Yes they are,

Blindboy infamously said 'feminism is what depressed young men need' biggest load of nonsense and snake oil ever. :rolleyes:;)

and what part of do you not get?.

It's up to people to be actual adults about their actions in relation to said advice. You can take it or leave it.

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 11:54AM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Yes they are,

Blindboy infamously said 'feminism is what depressed young men need' biggest load of nonsense and snake oil ever. :rolleyes:;)

and what part of do you not get?.

It's up to people to be actual adults about their actions in relation to said advice. You can take it or leave it.

and how is blindboy profiting from that? oh wait, he isn't. But somehow you dont have a problem with people profiting from selling fake cures.

11-03-2020 12:00PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

BTW
Can we maybe keep this on coronavirus instead of all the deflection of on autism?

Always deflection instead of debating the topic, because you can't.

Lol, we've been asking repeatedly for people to present a coherent conspiracy theory about coronavirus.

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 12:02PM

King Mob wrote: »

Lol, we've been asking repeatedly for people to present a coherent conspiracy theory about coronavirus.

has the Jim Corr nonsense been posted yet?

11-03-2020 12:05PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and how is blindboy profiting from that? oh wait, he isn't. But somehow you dont have a problem with people profiting from selling fake cures.

Well it's ok if they make money off fake cures, as long as they're already rich from a deal with a pharmaceutical company like Johnson and Johnson.
That's completely trustworthy.

But what do I know. I should keep an open mind and trust this guy when he says his cure all bleach works.

Lonesomerhodes · 11-03-2020 12:12PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and how is blindboy profiting from that? oh wait, he isn't. But somehow you dont have a problem with people profiting from selling fake cures.

You really don't follow things through.

Of course Blindboy profits off it, he knows his audience are incredibly vacuous millennial liberal types. The more he can appeal to them the more they buy his dumb books and attend his ego masturbation podcasts.

He most certainly does profit from it indeed makes a living from it!.

Again.

It's up to people to be actual adults about their actions in relation to said advice. You can take it or leave it.

I really don't get how you don't understand the above.

If someone wants to pay money for supposed cures why would I have a problem with it??. For a start it's none of my business.
They are adults making their own decisions!. They can burn their money if they so wish!. Again none of my business, so why would I have problem with it?.

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 12:16PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

You really don't follow things through.

Of course Blindboy profits off it, he knows his audience are incredibly vacuous millennial liberal types. The more he can appeal to them the more they buy his dumb books and attend his ego masturbation podcasts.

He most certainly does profit from it indeed makes a living from it!.

Again.

It's up to people to be actual adults about their actions in relation to said advice. You can take it or leave it.

I really don't get how you don't understand the above.

If someone wants to pay money for supposed cures why would I have a problem with it??. For a start it's none of my business.
They are adults making their own decisions!. They can burn their money if they so wish!. Again none of my business, so why would I have problem with it?.

When somebody poses as a doctor who claims that a cure works then some people tend to believe it. Guillible idiots mainly but even they deserve protection from charlatans pedding fake cures and using fake claims of efficacy. Clearly you dont have a problem with it as you dont have a problem with people making fake claims.

Lonesomerhodes · 11-03-2020 12:29PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

When somebody poses as a doctor who claims that a cure works then some people tend to believe it. Guillible idiots mainly but even they deserve protection from charlatans pedding fake cures and using fake claims of efficacy. Clearly you dont have a problem with it as you dont have a problem with people making fake claims.

I'm saying it's none of my business or yours, what grown adults do with their money.

I really don't understand how you can't grasp that position it's a very simple one to have.

Also your lies are really really pathetic.

Despite all his claims, Clive de Carle has never said he's a doctor. Not once!.

if he has show me please, references and citations please.

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 12:38PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

I'm saying it's none of my business or yours, what grown adults do with their money.

I really don't understand how you can't grasp that position it's a very simple one to have.

Also your lies are really really pathetic.

Despite all his claims, Clive de Carle has never said he's a doctor. Not once!.

if he has show me please, references and citations please.

It is the business of all of us when people are committing fraud, which is exactly what these people selling fake cures are doing.

11-03-2020 12:39PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

I'm saying it's none of my business or yours, what grown adults do with their money.

I really don't understand how you can't grasp that position it's a very simple one to have.

Also your lies are really really pathetic.

Despite all his claims, Clive de Carle has never said he's a doctor. Not once!.

if he has show me please, references and citations please.

So to confirm, if he is selling fake cures based on false claims, you have no issue with this and he should be allowed to continue undisturbed?

Lonesomerhodes · 11-03-2020 12:45PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It is the business of all of us when people are committing fraud, which is exactly what these people selling fake cures are doing.

The guy lying through his teeth is concerned with fraud. :rolleyes:

Somehow I doubt your nobility concerning fraud; to me it's meaningless virtue signalling as you simply don't like the man.

You trying to stop people defrauding the elderly with phishing and banking scams and so on?. Of course not.

It's all to appear virtuous to your boardsie mates, I see through it.
Stevie Wonder would.

In relation to your claims.

Again please document and offer citation where Clive de Carle said he is a doctor please or is that more of your lies?.

ohnonotgmail · 11-03-2020 12:49PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

The guy lying through his teeth is concerned with fraud. :rolleyes:

Somehow I doubt your nobility concerning fraud; to me it's meaningless virtue signalling as you simply don't like the man.

You trying to stop people defrauding the elderly with phishing and banking scams and so on?. Of course not.

It's all to appear virtuous to your boardsie mates, I see through it.
Stevie Wonder would.

In relation to your claims.

Again please document and offer citation where Clive de Carle said he is a doctor please or is that more of your lies?.

the man is selling fake cures and you dont care. You really belong in CT. Have you considered self-isolating? i've heard that you can get it through your computer so perhaps you should turn that off.

The Nal · 11-03-2020 12:55PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Banks will profiter off this.

Still waiting for an answer on this one......

Lonesomerhodes · 11-03-2020 01:06PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the man is selling fake cures and you dont care. You really belong in CT. Have you considered self-isolating? i've heard that you can get it through your computer so perhaps you should turn that off.

Yes I'm sure you care so much though hows your support groups for people going?. I have to say though your phoney concern and incredibly self indulgent aren't I noble virtue signalling, though isn't as tedious as your lies.

(Get it from computer?. You're screwed so pal. You spend 24/7 on boards.ie;))

You still haven't answered.

Again please document and offer citation where Clive de Carle said he is a doctor please or is that more of your lies?.

11-03-2020 01:08PM

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Again please document and offer citation where Clive de Carle said he is a doctor please or is that more of your lies?.

If he isn't a doctor, why is he offering medical treatment?

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-03-2020 01:15PM

The Nal wrote: »

Still waiting for an answer on this one......

Those Goldman-Sucks lads didn't seem to fair too badly from the 2008 global recession. More state bail-outs, than a shed full of hay needing bails to be bailed out.

As we move quickly and globally to a cashless world, even a move e.g. from 0.01% to 0.02% surcharge on each tap, is a whole-lotta-money into the bank.

The Nal · 11-03-2020 01:32PM

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Those Goldman-Sucks lads didn't seem to fair too badly from the 2008 global recession. More state bail-outs, than a shed full of hay needing bails to be bailed out.

As we move quickly and globally to a cashless world, even a move e.g. from 0.01% to 0.02% surcharge on each tap, is a whole-lotta-money into the bank.

Wow how specific!

Heres something specific, you know, actual facts. Hard data.

Goldman Sachs Net Worth 2006-2019

Goldman Sachs’ Top Line Likely To Shrink $1.6 Billion In 2019

How many banks failed? How many of "the rich" and how many "bankers" lost all their money. Countless examples.

As for this virus, you do know that trading on US stock exchanges halted the other morning after a 7% drip and investors are putting their money into government bonds instead?

Its quite clear you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Doctor Shipman · 11-03-2020 01:38PM

Has Clive De Carle ever said he was Doctor?

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-03-2020 01:47PM

The Nal wrote: »

Wow how specific!

Wow take a look at that bounce back, on the chart, how'd that happen? Government monies???

At board level, at Senior Director level, doubt you'd find a single one of GS fallen upon hard times, instead they dined out on the crash.
Bonus payments? No problem, let the good times roll!

A bank closing it's retail units, and letting go of a few thousand worker bees and minions is nothing to the bank.
To you it's either black or white, never shades of grey. Don't take up chess, eh?

Temporary stock price blip? Followed by state aid.
A golden opportunity to buy back, or load on extra stock.
Leemans crashing? Great, more to grab for the Sachs.

Even today some states and players are happy to sit back and enjoy the oil do 48hr negative 22%, it's simply a matter of strategic perspective.

'Restructuring' simply alludes to cutting off some skin, to keep the fat cats fat.
You don't even have to look to NYSE/DJ.

The Irish banks were bailed out by the people, the banks didn't bail out the people getting their new very short fiscal haircuts.

Lonesomerhodes · 11-03-2020 01:54PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Has Clive De Carle ever said he was Doctor?

As far as I'm aware no never

Just ohnonotgmail just lying through his teeth.

I'm surprised, if Clive is so full of crap like these guys assume why the need to make lies up and then ignore my request for him to back up his nonsense claim.He's obviously seen it, guy lives on this forum basically.

Ipso · 11-03-2020 02:04PM

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Those Goldman-Sucks lads didn't seem to fair too badly from the 2008 global recession. More state bail-outs, than a shed full of hay needing bails to be bailed out.

As we move quickly and globally to a cashless world, even a move e.g. from 0.01% to 0.02% surcharge on each tap, is a whole-lotta-money into the bank.

Goldman have atms now.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-03-2020 02:12PM

Ipso wrote: »

Goldman have atms now.

More than they had last year? No increased fees for usage?
'Cause that's exactly what all the other banks are doing.

Then there's closures: AIB leaving rural post-offices often called "a death knell for their communities". Or across the water: Wales has topped the UK table for bank closures - losing 43% of ... of its banks, while in Scotland 38% have shut and Northern Ireland 29% (2019).
...Anyway, away from you banker's love in /

What's the story with the aul COVID19?

Germany announced yesterday for it's citizens to expect 60-70% population penetration.
Has any other cold/flu had such a massive single season spread?

str8talkingguy · 11-03-2020 02:26PM

Ipso wrote: »

Goldman have atms now.

Every country is borrowing billions and billions to alleviate "the Corona Virus" impact on their economies banks are making hay in this crisis without a doubt.

US2 · 11-03-2020 02:37PM

Amazing that all the riots and protests in Hong Kong have stopped..

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-03-2020 02:51PM

Don't think it is intentional, ...however 'if' e.g. you wanted to 'design' a perfect virus,
- to take out the weak and/or old on every country (65% penetration*), then have it leave as quick (mid-summer) as it arrived, this is the one.
*Possible Wave2 in November for the other 35% that missed out on it the 1st time.

Oh, then also be assured of widespread novel vaccinations Spring 2021.

The Nal · 11-03-2020 03:25PM

str8talkingguy wrote: »

Every country is borrowing billions and billions to alleviate "the Corona Virus" impact on their economies banks are making hay in this crisis without a doubt.

lol FFS

HSBC are cutting 35,000 jobs. I&C Bank of China, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, BOA, Wells Fargo, Citi etc, all down massively at the moment. Theres no liquidity in the market. Huge uncertainty. Some are refusing trades as of today.

str8talkingguy · 11-03-2020 03:39PM

The Nal wrote: »

lol FFS

HSBC are cutting 35,000 jobs. I&C Bank of China, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, BOA, Wells Fargo, Citi etc, all down massively at the moment. Theres no liquidity in the market. Huge uncertainty. Some are refusing trades as of today.

You think cutting jobs costs them money at the top?If they cut jobs,its so they can continue growing,there is more and more automation every day so jobs are going to be going anyway.

You are definitely naive if you think banks lose,the banks at the top never lose,its the one sure thing thats been ever present throughout history.The banks always come out smelling of roses,depressions recessions banks keep growing.

Sometimes short term losses for long term gains,common in business.

The Nal · 11-03-2020 03:49PM

str8talkingguy wrote: »

You are definitely naive if you think banks lose,the banks at the top never lose,its the one sure thing thats been ever present throughout history.The banks always come out smelling of roses,depressions recessions banks keep growing.

Have a read of this please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_U.S._bank_failures

str8talkingguy · 11-03-2020 03:57PM

The Nal wrote: »

Have a read of this please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_U.S._bank_failures

I clearly said banks at the top there is a handful of banks who everybody knows their names and they have been growing for this last century especially,every depression and recession they get larger at the expense of the smaller banks who holds the common mans money,who always carries the can when they fail.

Aib,Boi were borrowing of these big boys,and then the big boys called in their debts and we the common taxpayer had to take the hit not the boys Aib borrowed off which is who should have carried the can considering they were independent banks nothing to do with the state or tax payer at that time.

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-03-2020 04:13PM

The Nal wrote: »

"Elites", "rich people". lol. What a tiny insular world view.

But again, how are these "rich people" going to make money? There is no vaccine. These "rich people" have already lost fortunes in the last week in the markets are taking their money out of the markets and putting them into more secure low yield government bonds.

Do you honestly believe the average person has a say? George Carlin quote him said politicians forget about them. There are only there to give you impression you have freedom of choice!

What do you think happened during the banking catastrophe of 2008?

Do you know the taxpayers of each country had to bail out the European banks even though they are privately held? The debt was put on the books of each country to pay back? Ireland as a lesson had to bail out the 1 percenters who speculated in the market and lost, Why do common people accept paying the debt of gamblers? Banks are fixed, to not fail.

Ireland added 150 billion to its domestic debt since 2008. What could you do with the 150 billion to help the 4 million people living in Ireland?

Markets are manipulated for 1 percenters, and you’re not in that club. When it goes wrong, they coming running for bailouts and gov handouts and politicians will fall over themselves to help them!

They're running now to buy US bonds because they assured to be paid off again if the economy slumps. This is taxpayer money ( as gov doesn’t pay income taxes) So the wall street investors will continue to gamble, when there no risk.

Decline with the Dow Jones is not really the end of the world for them when the gov will pay them back with some interest.

They're no poor people buying stocks. Wall street trading is for very, very rich, and losing a few millions dollars, is like losing a 20 pound/ Euro note for most people. Maybe i just have little sympathy for people who live in 50 million dollar mansions, drive 1 million dollar sport cars, and buy big boats to travel around the world on.

I not protesting about a vaccine for this virus. I just saying when it ultimately does arrive pharma companies will make millions and perhaps billions selling it around the world. Some people think big pharma is involved in conspiracy scheme and they already have a vaccine and just waiting for more people to getting sick and then release it and make more money?

My post was just to highlight the reality investors who purchase pharma stocks will get rich.

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