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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Bahrain 79 new cases, bringing their total to 189.

    What's the weather like in Bahrain?

    I doubt its 6-10 degrees, with showers of rain, hail, sleet and snow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 508 ✭✭✭d8491prj5boyvg


    Unless this person goes public himself he will not be identified officially at least. Obviously the usual rumours will circulate but that`s just the way it is.

    Someone else would have spread it if it wasn't that person so I wouldn't be too worried if I were them. The measures that in place meant it was a matter of when, not of who.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    24 degrees and 54% humidity

    Thanks man :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Company I work for has decided to let day shift employees finish up early, with evening & night shift doing the same. The idea being that no shift comes in contact with the next avoiding contact with other employees.
    The company benefits, as if one shift is put out of action, production stays going in theory.

    The utter stupidity of this was to funnel 200-300 day shift employees into a small crowded canteen, while they wait for the previous shift to leave the building.

    The company is up in a heap, no one knows what is happening as all communication is word of mouth practically. Would be better off shut at this stage..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭matthewmurdock


    Poland closing all schools, universities, museums, cinemas and sporting events to be behind closed doors.

    Fewer cases than us and no deaths like us.

    Meanwhile we have National League GAA proceeding as normal, as well as none of the measures listed above.

    Be interesting to compare us to a more proactive country like Poland in coming weeks and months.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,395 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Northern Ireland's biggest cinema chain, Omniplex, is introducing a "seat separation" policy in response to coronavirus.

    No more shifting
    They operate in ROI as well.
    I thought it was a good idea personally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Poland don’t mess about, 25 cases and they close all schools.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,101 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    If you had halted the flights from Italy three weeks ago, you could have Cheltenham go ahead with no concern about infections. It's a knock on effect. It's the fact that there was no screening, checks, or halting of flights from Italy that caused us to get the infection, and because of that other things that would have been risk free are now dangerous.

    So if we had halted Italian we would have had no cases really. Can you really say that as that is what your implying


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    cnocbui wrote: »
    It's too late for banning flights to be of use once you have community transmission within your country. It might have worked two or three weeks ago with people going into quarantine from inbound flights than stopping them. Singapore showed the way but this country isn't run by smart people.

    I hear what you're saying. It's a bit too late for banning inward flights. Banning now would help by not adding more cases. Unless if everyone coming in off flights goes straight into quarantine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Lawstudent2020


    I'm an Irish student studying in Germany for the year and my university has provided me with no information about Covid 19. There are currently over 1600 cases in Germany. The second semester is due to start in a few weeks and it's all a bit disconcerting. Guidance from my home university is currently to just wash my hands.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Thanks man :)

    111 cases per million people and they only have a pop of 1.4m so that’s a lot for such a small country. Slightly worrying alright


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    UsBus wrote: »
    Company I work for has decided to let day shift employees finish up early, with evening & night shift doing the same. The idea being that no shift comes in contact with the next avoiding contact with other employees.
    The company benefits, as if one shift is put out of action, production stays going in theory.

    The utter stupidity of this was to funnel 200-300 day shift employees into a small crowded canteen, while they wait for the previous shift to leave the building.

    The company is up in a heap, no one knows what is happening as all communication is word of mouth practically. Would be better off shut at this stage..

    Stand up on a chair in the canteen and give them the full Jim Larkin. Hands and all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    TBF, I think they'll have to; don't think the Chinese haven't already reverse engineered it anyway.

    I think that drug will sort a lot of this out tbh; they will make much more money from a treatment than a vaccine anyway.

    Of note, remdesivir is administered as an IV infusion, so it has to be given by a healthcare professional in a healthcare setting. While it holds great promise in the long run, you will still need to access the health service to get it, so if that healthcare service is overwhelmed then you’re still gonna be screwed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Wibbs wrote: »
    They should. My local pharmacist is already. Bumped into her yesterday and she mentioned they were getting masks and hand sanitiser, but only one each per customer and existing customers have preference over randomers. She told me the last fortnight has been a bit daft, with the occasional individual being insane and asking to buy whole boxes of gloves, hand wash and masks and a couple had screaming fits when they were told no. She told them to head off and had to threaten ringing the Guards on them. Apparently the latest thing they've been hit by is people trying to stock up on paracetamol.

    Shakes head. Poor pharmacists are in the direct line of fire. This is when it is good to be loyal to local shops. I rely on prescription analgesia and always from the same pharmacy

    It was in many ways an easier life before social media.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Mango Joe wrote: »
    I'd also suggest that now is finally the time to throw caution to the winds and take your sexy Neighbour or work Colleague into your arms in a passionate embrace followed by 3 or 4 minutes of amazing love-making......

    OK. Try that with a work colleague preferably in full view of everyone else in the workplace and let us know how you get on.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    flynnlives wrote: »
    im old enough to remember plenty of recessions. We survived those. We can survive this.

    The US is absolutley ****ed. In a weeks time they wil easily be in Italy's postion.
    A recession is coming regarldess.

    What i dont want is us following the brits. They've accepted mass deaths.

    I think we already have - along with the rest of Europe (genuinely hope im wrong)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

    I'd stop listening to those people tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    What's this?

    They had a church that is a little odd. The church had a big thing in a city.

    Members from the church got it at their big thing in the city. Then went back to their own towns and parishes and spread it their.

    Church leadership was asked for a list of all members but because the church is a little odd they suffer low level discrimination.

    The church leadership didn't want to give a list of their members so the state's contact tracing missed getting the people at the big ceremony and members of the church in their own parishes.

    The church leadership was investigated for reckless endangerment and causing the spread of the virus. They ten handed over a list of their members and a list of people who attended their big ceremony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭touts


    With one sentence Sean O'Rourke just cut the legs out from the horse racing industry claiming Cheltenham is safe.

    "The Hand Sanitizers are being topped up, and the banks were well capitalised"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭the deftone


    Everywhere is affected though, including Ireland. So that would mean no flights at all. How long do you stay closed for? What happens if we all close down for a few months, things seem better, but then it all just kicks off again when we reopen.

    Ireland wasn't infected a few weeks ago. We had the chance to aviod this but we didn't take it. Why? Stopping flights from affected areas wouldn't of stopped it getting here 100% but it would of greatly reduced our cases. Why didn't we do that? I don't understand.

    Stopping flights now would still have a positive affect and I don't know why we still aren't doing it.

    Saying this might not work anyway is no excuse for not trying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Graces7 wrote: »
    So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
    Just WOW!

    Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

    See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

    And please mind your language! REALLY!

    You said
    Graces7 wrote: »
    No necessarily, as folk with autoimmune problems cannot take vaccines,

    You may have been told not to get vaccinated but that does not mean everyone else with autoimmune issues cannot.

    Doctors and medical people advise everyone to get vaccinated for the Flu and like every medication SOME people will not be able to. Please do not make sweeping statements about people with autoimmune issues.

    From CDC Site
    People who SHOULD NOT get the flu shot:

    Children younger than 6 months of age are too young to get a flu shot.
    People with severe, life-threatening allergies to flu vaccine or any ingredient in the vaccine. This might include gelatin, antibiotics, or other ingredients. See Special Considerations Regarding Egg Allergy for more information about egg allergies and flu vaccine.
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/whoshouldvax.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    UsBus wrote: »
    Company I work for has decided to let day shift employees finish up early, with evening & night shift doing the same. The idea being that no shift comes in contact with the next avoiding contact with other employees.
    The company benefits, as if one shift is put out of action, production stays going in theory.

    The utter stupidity of this was to funnel 200-300 day shift employees into a small crowded canteen, while they wait for the previous shift to leave the building.

    The company is up in a heap, no one knows what is happening as all communication is word of mouth practically. Would be better off shut at this stage..

    Work in a similar environment, and company frantically making plans to try to mitigate any potential effect on shift teams and day staff.

    Some early ideas are functional team members not sitting in a group any more, but being spread out. Also not allowed to meet up in the canteen.

    Shifts also not meeting at handover time.

    Allowing people to work from home if possible, or alternate days, with staff missing each other this way.

    Only small meetings, no more packed rooms. Talk that all meetings are about to be scrapped for a month. Webex meetings preferred.

    Temperature monitoring on entry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    cnocbui wrote: »
    It's too late for banning flights to be of use once you have community transmission within your country. It might have worked two or three weeks ago with people going into quarantine from inbound flights than stopping them. Singapore showed the way but this country isn't run by smart people.

    Agree it is too late to use it as a measure to prevent a national epidemic.

    But I still don’t think travel restrictions (not necessarily banning flights) should be discarded altogether for that reason: once we eventually get our act together and realise we have to enact strong containment measures within the country, and once these measures hopefully bring the number of cases to a manageable level, we can’t afford to be importing cases from other countries which aren’t doing what it takes at the risk of ruining our own effort.

    I saw today that anyone arriving to Beijing from abroad will now be quarantined for 14 days and I can see there point there: many Chinese have made massive efforts and have been sacrificing their economy and their daily lives for 2 months to bring this thing under control - it doesn’t make sense to directly allow entry for people from areas where this is not done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Thewife


    There would need to be some serious storm to have the strength to blow me and the tent away 🀣 I’d nearly go as far to say it’s impossible 🀣
    Stay safe Graces7 , you seem to have it all under control and are used to isolation so you will be fine ðŸ™ðŸ» X
    Graces7 wrote: »
    I wish! Afraid a tent would take off.... Like I nearly do many days

    But yes: I feel like an observer in all this. I live in permanent isolation as I am immunesuppressed and am under strict orders to see NO ONE. There is no way the bug can catch me

    A thought though; if any there have holiday homes in rural places and you can, move there for a while?

    Stay as safe as you can out there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Nothing is free. Someone has to pay for it.
    Naggdefy wrote: »
    You can travel from pharmacy to pharmacy though. In my provincial town there are 6 in walking distance. Some people do that.

    Supermarkets sell it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    laurah591 wrote: »
    80% will have mild symptoms - but 1 in 5 will be serious!

    My understanding of it was that 80% will be mild and just need to self isolate.

    Out of the remaining 20% some might require just some monitoring or medical treatment in hospital, but that they won't necessarily be at serious risk.

    Obviously then there are others where it will be serious, but nothing close to 20%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Graces7 wrote: »
    So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
    Just WOW!

    Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

    See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

    And please mind your language! REALLY!


    I'm immunocompromised (I'm on methotrexate for psoriatic arthritis) and anyone with my condition is encouraged by medical professionals to get the flu vaccine every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,101 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    9 confirmed cases on the island of Eire on Sunday morning. Fast forward a mere 3 days later to yesterday.....and we have 50.

    We're in real trouble here.

    Leo still jetting off to the US this afternoon ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    laurah591 wrote: »
    I think we already have - along with the rest of Europe (genuinely hope im wrong)

    I think so too. "Flattening the curve" just slows the rate of infection, it doesn't stop people from getting it.

    Though hopefully it'll be met by treatments and maybe even vaccines before it gets through the entire population.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Boggles wrote: »
    19 questions and not one question mark.

    :)

    Hmmm. Maybe they think rhetorical questions do not need ??? lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Michael Osterholm said it on the Rogan Podcast.

    He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota.

    I think possibly what he is referring to is that the virus can and does become airborne and is spread that way also. So if someone sneezes or coughs without covering their mouths, its highly likely the have made the virus airborne. If people carry out effective social isolation and if those who believe they are infected wear masks, this danger is reduced.

    After that we know the virus can exist for a long time on surfaces. So potentially on door handles and the like. In this regard hand washing is effective to prevent transfer to the face.

    In summary you need the full repertoire of hand washing, social isolation, sneezing/coughing into your elbow, no hand shaking, etc.

    I think eventually they will have to restrict or shutdown public transport if they want to get on top of this. The Chinese did that I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭the deftone


    What will happen of schools close and doctors and nurses can't go to work as they have nobody to mind their kids?

    This doesn't seem like an obstacle that couldn't be overcome


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Poland don’t mess about, 25 cases and they close all schools.

    Moldova have 3 cases and they've closed down all schools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    What will happen of schools close and doctors and nurses can't go to work as they have nobody to mind their kids?

    How many? You'd think every doctor was married to a nurse and they all have 6 kids under 10 if you believe the propaganda


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    So if we had halted Italian we would have had no cases really. Can you really say that as that is what your implying

    Well yes.

    As I said before, this thing doesn't spontaneously generate.

    If nobody traveled to and from China in January no other country would have been infected with the disease.

    If nobody traveled from Ireland to northern Italy in February, we wouldn't have got the disease.

    It can only spread from human to human. It literally cannot survive without a human host.

    If a country doesn't have the disease, nobody in the country can get the disease.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Axfrderr


    dodzy wrote: »
    9 confirmed cases on the island of Eire

    Huh? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Have we crossed the Rubicon yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Joe Rogan of all people had a great podcast last night about the Virus with Michael Osterholm

    Basically this will only truly stop when the majority of people have caught it and build up an immune system,
    Stopping cold and flu's (same family) from spreading is like trying to stop the wind,
    Hand sanitizing won't really change anything as you breath it in ,
    This is here for 6 to 9 month or longer so stopping how we live really shouldn't be an option ,
    Warm weather won't stop it
    Cancelling schools may have a worse effect, Most nurse's are mother's who then have to take time off to mind the kids,
    Figure of the % who die from it is much lower than reported as so many will have it and never know so aren't counted


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think possibly what he is referring to is that the virus can and does become airborne and is spread that way also. So if someone sneezes or coughs without covering their mouths, its highly likely the have made the virus airborne. If people carry out effective social isolation and if those who believe they are infected wear masks, this danger is reduced.
    What he said was very clear and does not need reframing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

    :rolleyes:

    Maybe different for other people here, but I'll listen to world renowned experts like Michael Osterholm who have studied contagions for decades rather than hard chaws on Boards.ie slating everyone and everything because they can't get their gargle on Paddy's Day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Simdruid


    iguana wrote: »
    I don't know. My skin has cracked in a couple of places on one hand because I spilled a mild bleach solution on it but have continued with over washing and steriliser use that's stripped the skin of it's natural oils. I've been keeping them heavily moisturised while at home but the skin has opened in a couple of places now. I'm going to have to start wearing a rubber glove on that hand now because tiny open cuts are a perfect way for the virus to infect me.

    I get cracked hands a lot, and they're bad right now because of all the extra hand washing. What usually helps me (doesn't get rid of it completely but makes it more bearable during the next day) is wearing a pair of cotton gloves (sold by pharmacies, usually just ask them and they have them behind the counter) overnight after putting on a lot of thick moisturiser (even just coconut oil).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    iguana wrote: »
    The figure on Worlometers is showing that 88% are mild now with 12% in the serious to critical category. Even in Italy where things are absolutely dire the current number of people in serious/critical condition is 10.3%, nearly 90% of confirmed active cases there are classified as mild.

    Take the mild/severe classification on Worldometers with a pinch of salt. It’s based on self reported classifications.
    For example, Iran have had 9000 cases, and are still claiming to have zero serious cases, despite having 354 deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    He was on Pat Kenny a few weeks ago and this started to emerge. Effectively said this wouldn't be a problem, not to worry. He may be an expert in his field, but as far as COVID-19 goes, he's learning like the rest.

    Wee bit starstruck, enjoying the attention a bit too much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    dodzy wrote: »
    9 confirmed cases on the island of Eire on Sunday morning. Fast forward a mere 3 days later to yesterday.....and we have 50.

    We're in real trouble here.

    Leo still jetting off to the US this afternoon ?

    10 days later, not 3?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Careless driving and cancer is an infectious disease
    This is new

    Is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Poland closing all schools, universities, museums, cinemas and sporting events to be behind closed doors.

    Fewer cases than us and no deaths like us.

    Meanwhile we have National League GAA proceeding as normal, as well as none of the measures listed above.

    Be interesting to compare us to a more proactive country like Poland in coming weeks and months.

    Eastern Europe in general is doing a better job than western Europe in relation to this. Germany, France, and UK have been the front runners of saying 'Just relax. Let it happen.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Over 1000 cases in Madrid alone now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,275 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Ann22 wrote: »
    My mam is nearly 82 with a myriad of health problems..asthma/copd/brichiecstasis/diabetes/heart problems. She is almost blind and doesnt leave the house. She has a vascular clinic apt tomorrow in the Louth hosp. I think she should postpone it. The Secretary on the phone told her everyone is attending as usual. Worried for her though. Think it's best to postpone. What would you guys do?


    My mother is 83. She had a dermatology appointment in Waterford on Friday.
    I had a chat with her over the weekend about the virus in general.
    Yesterday she cancelled her dermatology appointment.
    Everybody more relieved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    iguana wrote: »
    The figure on Worlometers is showing that 88% are mild now with 12% in the serious to critical category. Even in Italy where things are absolutely dire the current number of people in serious/critical condition is 10.3%, nearly 90% of confirmed active cases there are classified as mild.

    Take the mild/severe classification on Worldometers with a pinch of salt. It’s based on self reported classifications.
    For example, Iran have had 9000 cases, and are still claiming to have zero serious cases, despite having 354 deaths.


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