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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #9572
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Probably will be a long/slow process, until enough people get infected and a vaccine being available. China still reluctant atm to do it and not even sure Europe can do what they done. Its probably going to a fight against outbreaks for the next 18 months or so


  • #9573
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    dan786 wrote: »
    Germany has confirmed a third death due to coronavirus.

    The question is: how many deaths will it take for Germany to give a damn?


  • #9574
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Bahrain 79 new cases, bringing their total to 189.

    What's the weather like in Bahrain?


  • #9575
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    iguana wrote: »
    That's great news for him but what a fuçking burden to have to live with for the rest of his life. It was in no way his fault that he spread the virus he was repeatedly told he had the flu. But to have been dubbed as 'patient 1' & 'the Italian superspreader' in a country which has so far shown an absolutely huge mortality rate and put a western democracy into a previously unthinkable kind of lockdown. To be the person placed at the centre of most of the infections in Europe and the massive recession that will almost inevitably follow. It's just so utterly sh^t for him.:(
    Nobody is blaming him.


    If fingers should be pointed, Germany thought they had fully contained the Bavaria outbreak - but now we know they didn't.


    The Bavarian outbreak was started by a Chinese colleague coming from China.
    Article from the New England Journal of Medicine
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...d-mnX3d9F_WRzM


    The strain in Europe is the same and originates from the first patient in Germany, or Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1)
    Research has established the samples from (so far) Switzerland, Finland, Italy, Brazil and Mexico are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 .

    https://nextstrain.org/narratives/ncov/sit-rep/2020-03-05?n=9



    Hypothesis about the spreading of SARS-CoV-2 virus in Europe
    Bavaria BavPat1 -> La Gomera -> Tenerife, Spain -> Italy
    https://markdownshare.com/view/1fa5a...0-da1b19b7adf8


  • #9576
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    iguana wrote: »
    That's great news for him but what a fuçking burden to have to live with for the rest of his life. It was in no way his fault that he spread the virus he was repeatedly told he had the flu. But to have been dubbed as 'patient 1' & 'the Italian superspreader' in a country which has so far shown an absolutely huge mortality rate and put a western democracy into a previously unthinkable kind of lockdown. To be the person placed at the centre of most of the infections in Europe and the massive recession that will almost inevitably follow. It's just so utterly sh^t for him.:(

    Unless this person goes public himself he will not be identified officially at least. Obviously the usual rumours will circulate but that`s just the way it is.


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  • #9577
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,096 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Graces7 wrote: »
    So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
    Just WOW!

    Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

    See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

    And please mind your language! REALLY!

    When did you last talk to a GP or Consultant about this?
    From your beloved NHS
    Most immunosuppressed populations are at higher risk of influenza-associated complications, have a general trend toward impaired antibody responses but can be safely vaccinated.
    Such groups are thought to be at higher risk of serious influenza-associated complications and as such are priority groups for immunisation.

    And
    People with ME/CFS, where a dose of flu could cause serious complications, should also discuss having a flu vaccination with their doctor

    As you say, dangerous medical advice on this thread.


  • #9578
    ironingbored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Hello? Is that Sky? Look, I know I cancelled my subscription but could you just let me watch one more match...?

    https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-access-coronavirus-vaccine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR08qJv56BCBH1WarVjPl5fzRMzcyoQBW0CbRcghTHiLbrmdYkU-Ik5bOSw


  • #9579
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    And Taiwan and South Korea were faced with an infinitely more difficult task than us. South Korea had a cult deliberately spread the disease for a week FFS. Also both of them are a stone's throw from the outbreak of the disease (in aviation terms)

    What's this?


  • #9580
    ErnestBorgnine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Source?

    Michael Osterholm said it on the Rogan Podcast.

    He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota.


  • #9581
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

    So let me get this right.. you're saying that you wouldn't get rid of all worldwide cancer if the option was presented to you?


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  • #9582
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the deftone wrote: »
    Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

    Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

    However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

    Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

    Everywhere is affected though, including Ireland. So that would mean no flights at all. How long do you stay closed for? What happens if we all close down for a few months, things seem better, but then it all just kicks off again when we reopen.


  • #9583
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    hawkwing wrote: »
    You are only allowed to buy one box of paracetamol:o

    You can travel from pharmacy to pharmacy though. In my provincial town there are 6 in walking distance. Some people do that.


  • #9584
    The Rook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭The Rook


    Graces7 wrote: »
    So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
    Just WOW!

    Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

    See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

    And please mind your language! REALLY!

    Depends on the illness and the severity of said illness (and the individual).
    I am on strong immunosuppressants due to a long term illness and year on year both my GP and my consultants say that I most definitely should get the flu vaccine.

    Having said that it might not be the same for everyone so one can't say that what applies to Peter will apply to Paul.


  • #9585
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    the deftone wrote: »
    Really frustrated watching all this unfold. Every part of me completely wants to see flights to and from affected areas being grounded, schools closed, events cancelled ect....

    Watching what has happended to Italy makes all this seem like a no brainer.

    However I'm rational enough to know there are people a lot smarter than me advising the government not to do these things yet.

    Can someone please help me understand the reasoning behind this?

    What will happen of schools close and doctors and nurses can't go to work as they have nobody to mind their kids?


  • #9586
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing
    Michael Osterholm (infectious disease specialist) :

    "Hand-sanitizers are a great thing for stopping a lot of infectious diseases ... but the whole issue of using your hands, then touching your face - the data is actually very weak that this kind of virus is going to be transmitted that way.

    I wouldn't tell you to stop using hand-sanitizer, but don't think it's going to have a big impact.

    The data we have on this (spreading via touching your face, touching your eyes etc) is so sparse ... I think the primary thing about hand-washing is that people want to do something. They want to be able to feel like they're doing something... and so we tell them 'wash your hands, often, to prevent this disease' and I feel like we're not really being honest with the people. It's really just about breathing in air, and that's a hard thing to stop.

    So keep doing the hand-washing, but don't think that's going to stop this disease."


  • #9587
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Bahrain 79 new cases, bringing their total to 189.

    What's the weather like in Bahrain?

    24 degrees up to 28 and 54% humidity


  • #9588
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Northern Ireland's biggest cinema chain, Omniplex, is introducing a "seat separation" policy in response to coronavirus.

    No more shifting


  • #9589
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

    Careless driving and cancer is an infectious disease
    This is new


  • #9590
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    laurah591 wrote: »
    80% will have mild symptoms - but 1 in 5 will be serious!

    The figure on Worlometers is showing that 88% are mild now with 12% in the serious to critical category. Even in Italy where things are absolutely dire the current number of people in serious/critical condition is 10.3%, nearly 90% of confirmed active cases there are classified as mild.


  • #9591
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae




    Very good interview covers an awful lot of ground.


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  • #9592
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Bahrain 79 new cases, bringing their total to 189.

    What's the weather like in Bahrain?

    I doubt its 6-10 degrees, with showers of rain, hail, sleet and snow.


  • #9593
    d8491prj5boyvg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 508 ✭✭✭d8491prj5boyvg


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Unless this person goes public himself he will not be identified officially at least. Obviously the usual rumours will circulate but that`s just the way it is.

    Someone else would have spread it if it wasn't that person so I wouldn't be too worried if I were them. The measures that in place meant it was a matter of when, not of who.


  • #9594
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    24 degrees and 54% humidity

    Thanks man :)


  • #9595
    UsBus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Company I work for has decided to let day shift employees finish up early, with evening & night shift doing the same. The idea being that no shift comes in contact with the next avoiding contact with other employees.
    The company benefits, as if one shift is put out of action, production stays going in theory.

    The utter stupidity of this was to funnel 200-300 day shift employees into a small crowded canteen, while they wait for the previous shift to leave the building.

    The company is up in a heap, no one knows what is happening as all communication is word of mouth practically. Would be better off shut at this stage..


  • #9596
    matthewmurdock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭matthewmurdock


    Poland closing all schools, universities, museums, cinemas and sporting events to be behind closed doors.

    Fewer cases than us and no deaths like us.

    Meanwhile we have National League GAA proceeding as normal, as well as none of the measures listed above.

    Be interesting to compare us to a more proactive country like Poland in coming weeks and months.


  • #9597
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,383 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Northern Ireland's biggest cinema chain, Omniplex, is introducing a "seat separation" policy in response to coronavirus.

    No more shifting
    They operate in ROI as well.
    I thought it was a good idea personally


  • #9598
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Poland don’t mess about, 25 cases and they close all schools.


  • #9599
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    If you had halted the flights from Italy three weeks ago, you could have Cheltenham go ahead with no concern about infections. It's a knock on effect. It's the fact that there was no screening, checks, or halting of flights from Italy that caused us to get the infection, and because of that other things that would have been risk free are now dangerous.

    So if we had halted Italian we would have had no cases really. Can you really say that as that is what your implying


  • #9600
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    cnocbui wrote: »
    It's too late for banning flights to be of use once you have community transmission within your country. It might have worked two or three weeks ago with people going into quarantine from inbound flights than stopping them. Singapore showed the way but this country isn't run by smart people.

    I hear what you're saying. It's a bit too late for banning inward flights. Banning now would help by not adding more cases. Unless if everyone coming in off flights goes straight into quarantine.


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  • #9601
    Lawstudent2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭Lawstudent2020


    I'm an Irish student studying in Germany for the year and my university has provided me with no information about Covid 19. There are currently over 1600 cases in Germany. The second semester is due to start in a few weeks and it's all a bit disconcerting. Guidance from my home university is currently to just wash my hands.


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