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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    So facebook isn't reliable but twitter is?!

    so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    MCKG wrote: »
    Yes all in one small town.

    What town is it?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    froog wrote: »
    let's be honest here, every country will effectively make a balls of this thing, because no country is capable of containing it, and no country has the health system capacity to treat it. health systems are simply not designed for these things.

    the outlier being china of course, but every day now i'm doubting their figures more and more.

    I dont agree entirely. It is a balancing act to not cripple the whole country financially for months if not years introducing measures that are knee jerk for that moment in time .

    Are we better off biting the bullet now worldwide and introduce draconian measures for 1/2 months or do we wait and sit on our hands in the hope that a treatment can be formulated in the coming weeks or months .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    otnomart wrote: »
    European Council has decided that flight slots are kept - if/when flights are stopped

    Common sense prevails. Ridiculous having mostly empty planes flying for the sake of keeping slots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    theguzman wrote: »
    Do we have a county by county breakdown on figures? I heard of a case in Ballyvourney Co. Cork yesterday! Even the Chinese who were criticized gave us a breakdown by prefecture of cases. With 50 cases on the island, we should be getting the information of where the infected are, was it local transmission or imported from abroad etc. Italy has higher death figures per day than China now, Ireland will be Italy within 2 weeks.

    Best we've got, officially.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭dublin99


    froog wrote: »
    if every single person in a country wore masks at all times wouldn't this have a dramatic impact on new cases. not protecting people - but massively reducing infected spreading??

    That's exactly what happened in Macau and Taiwan.

    Macau had 10 cases and everything was closed for a few weeks. Masks are mandatory on public transport and in casinos. They are provided at cost by the Government. No new case for 35 days!

    Taiwan took similar steps promptly and also stopped visitors from China. The number of cases to date, since late January, is about 45.

    First hand report by Kathryn Whitfield of the Guardian:
    "Taipei seems to have the virus in hand. Now I worry about returning to the UK "

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/coronavirus-outbreak-taipei-taiwan-china


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    otnomart wrote: »
    Macron speaking now and he has already said the word "economy" a couple of times (too many, IMHO)
    From him, nearly 1800 cases it's the start of the epidemy.
    Not a Chinese approach, then.

    What did you expect from banker puppet boy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    spookwoman wrote: »
    so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:


    But Twitter is no more reliable than Facebook.


    Social media is just people like yourself or myself talking. We might be telling the truth but we might as often not. Twitter is probably worse for bullshít as there's more 'anonymous' accounts knocking around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    MCKG wrote: »
    I am from this town in south Galway. We have had 4 confirmed cases since Sunday. 3 of those cases (we think) seem to be included in today figures, the other 1 in yesterday’s. Lots of people being tested of the past few days.

    The GP is right, schools need to close in this area and all events cancelled.
    where did those people get it from?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    otnomart wrote: »
    "On 10 March, the members of the European Council will discuss how to coordinate EU efforts to respond to the COVID-19 outbreak.
    The meeting will start at 17.00 (CET).
    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/european-council/president/news/20200309-euco-videoconference-covid19/


    Outcome:
    -Leaders agreed they will share *all* COVID19 information.

    I thought that was happening already !!!

    -EU will jointly procure face masks and respirators for member states.

    Finally !

    -Flexibilities will be considered to help member states economically
    Ditto


    https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1237455455812825089


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    spookwoman wrote: »
    so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:

    Oh I doubt everyone on sm lie, but a significant number do for whatever sad reason they use to justify it to themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    dublin99 wrote: »
    That's exactly what happened in Macau and Taiwan.

    Macau had 10 cases and everything was closed for a few weeks. Masks are mandatory on public transport and in casinos. They are provided at cost by the Government. No new case for 35 days!

    Taiwan took similar steps promptly and also stopped visitors from China. The number of cases to date, since late January, is about 45.

    First hand report by Kathryn Whitfield of the Guardian:
    "Taipei seems to have the virus in hand. Now I worry about returning to the UK "

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/coronavirus-outbreak-taipei-taiwan-china

    How much a ticket to Macau?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,685 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    spookwoman wrote: »
    If it's one of the 10 cases today then he's a contact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Achasanai wrote: »
    But Twitter is no more reliable than Facebook.


    Social media is just people like yourself or myself talking. We might be telling the truth but we might as often not. Twitter is probably worse for bullshít as there's more 'anonymous' accounts knocking around.

    Really?

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237442793242591234?s=20


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies



    Go in and kill them all. That's what they want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭twirlagig


    What town is it?

    If it’s the right post I’m thinking about, it’s mentioned in the twitter bio of a doctor in Galway
    @DickDoc123


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 aloevera33


    where did those people get it from?

    The G.P in clare I think


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Go in and kill them all. That's what they want.

    Good post I see you are not away with the fairies today.;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Are we in Ireland supposed to be following WHO guidelines? I see they have a document about getting your workplace COVID19 ready. It states that anyone with a cough or mild fever should be told to stay at home. Or anyone who has needed to take paracetamol or ibuprofen as they mask symptoms. This is obviously not happening here. So do the WHO guidelines not apply to Ireland? Does the HSE not think this is necessary for Ireland?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Can people please stop coughing into their hand? It's not helping me here. Cough into your elbow, not that hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Best we've got, officially.

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    Someone in the North has it who plays for Linfield.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Can people please stop coughing into their hand? It's not helping me here. Cough into your elbow, not that hard.
    That’s the first step, give them a couple of pandemics and they’ll do it right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2



    Italy death rate has jumped from 168 to 631. They're a lot of teachers around the country who are not young and will have harder time if they get it.

    I don't believe for a minute the virus is not spreading.The disease coming in from Italy, the deadly strain of the coronavirus is here. Best to contain now before its too late. We seem to just waiting till more people get before we react.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Are we in Ireland supposed to be following WHO guidelines? I see they have a document about getting your workplace COVID19 ready. It states that anyone with a cough or mild fever should be told to stay at home. Or anyone who has needed to take paracetamol or ibuprofen as they mask symptoms. This is obviously not happening here. So do the WHO guidelines not apply to Ireland? Does the HSE not think this is necessary for Ireland?

    Everything in Ireland is a joke so why not have a good laugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,795 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Are the HSE releasing any ages of the cases or is it solely sex and somewhere in Ireland?


  • Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭torres9kop


    Feels like this....


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Best we've got, officially.

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    I’m NW so no idea what section they’ll shove me in to when I get it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Best we've got, officially.

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    Sex is irrelevant except to the individuals concerned, what we should be getting are the cities/nearest large towns where cases are detected..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Have to say The Guardian website and app is superb on this - brilliant live updates for UK and internationally, and lots of articles and stats around CV as a whole. If I need the essential info it's my first stop (with Boards a close second obviously)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Are we in Ireland supposed to be following WHO guidelines? I see they have a document about getting your workplace COVID19 ready. It states that anyone with a cough or mild fever should be told to stay at home. Or anyone who has needed to take paracetamol or ibuprofen as they mask symptoms. This is obviously not happening here. So do the WHO guidelines not apply to Ireland? Does the HSE not think this is necessary for Ireland?
    Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

    Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Stheno wrote: »
    Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

    Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

    May I ask is it a big company?


  • Registered Users Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Stewball


    I seen someone earlier coughing into their jumper - they lifted up the neckline above their nose and then coughed.

    I thought that was a good way of doing it - but is it good?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,988 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    joe40 wrote: »
    With good hygiene and no symptoms she should be able to visit her father. This virus could be with us for months/years. I don't why we have the idea that everything will be fine in a few weeks.
    This might be something we have to manage long term.

    Yeah, the attitude of I'm visiting my father even if it kills him is the worrying part for me.

    The guy in the bed beside her father who is only in for a bit of respite and intends getting out soon, may not see it the same way, nor would his family.

    This thing got into a hospice in Italy last week, it was outright carnage in mere days.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Cuckoo7 wrote: »
    May I ask is it a big company?

    Yes

    Over 150000 employees with a large presence in Asia

    We had a global travel ban imposed in January for example


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,248 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Stheno wrote: »
    Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

    Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

    My place too, and others I know of.

    People don't see these implemented wherever they are and assume it's not happening anywhere in Ireland.

    How dumb an opinion to form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Stheno wrote: »
    Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

    Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

    Lucky ye...

    Not very many companies who would be so accommodating to employees complaining of a cough or head cold. Half my office would have been self isolating the past few weeks if that was the case!

    Then again, we don't have the option to work from home either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭StefanFal


    There was one confirmed case in Dundalk today. Does that fall under North or East?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    :confused:

    What do the hysterical earlier threads prove exactly?

    That the people in those threads you consider hysterical, had a far superior grasp of the potential seriousness of this pandemic than you, Strazdas and your ilk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 aloevera33


    What happens people who genuinely have a chest infection ( not coronavirus) and cant visit G.P now


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Stewball wrote: »
    I seen someone earlier coughing into their jumper - they lifted up the neckline above their nose and then coughed.

    I thought that was a good way of doing it - but is it good?
    If you do it like that it’s very easy for you to be coughing in your hand/your hand touching your face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Smaller EU Countries are afraid for their healthcare systems to be overwhelmed,
    think of Malta, Cyprus, Slovenia, how many beds do they have ?
    While France, Germany and Spain now have 5000 cases combined.
    And still no significant measures.
    I am afraid they intend to "normalise" the virus just to keep the economy going.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Lucky ye...

    Not very many companies who would be so accommodating to employees complaining of a cough or head cold. Half my office would have been self isolating the past few weeks if that was the case!

    Then again, we don't have the option to work from home either.

    Everyone of the 400 odd employees in our Irish offices can work from home

    All supplier visits are banned as are attendance at conferences, and visits by contractors

    Normally people work from home a day or two a week in my place

    Go in and sneeze ad you are sent home at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,961 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Someone earlier posted a link to the breakdown of the Italian stats. I couldn’t open one link and the other link was Italian.
    I translated it. Here’s some of the info:

    10% of cases are asymptomatic, 5% with few symptoms, 30% with mild symptoms, 31% are symptomatic, 6% have severe symptoms and 19% are critical. 24% of the cases examined are hospitalized. The analysis confirms that 56.6% of the deceased people are over 80 years old, and two thirds of these have 3 or more pre-existing chronic diseases.

    So that 56.6% of:

    The analysis, out of 8342 positive cases at 9 March at 10 am, shows that 1.4% are under the age of 19, 22.0% are in the 19-50 range, 37.4% between 51 and 70 and 39.2% are over 70, for a median age of 65. 62.1% are men. There are 583 positive health workers.

    They are mental stats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Stheno wrote: »
    Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

    Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

    Unfortunately it's not implemented widely. I'd say most workplaces haven't a clue. I see plenty of shop assistants coughing and sniffing, and I was working in a school last week and it was the same there. Teachers and students coughing and sneezing everywhere. And I can't see this advice from the HSE anywhere, either directly or with links to the WHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Stewball wrote: »
    I seen someone earlier coughing into their jumper - they lifted up the neckline above their nose and then coughed.

    I thought that was a good way of doing it - but is it good?

    A guy I work with always sneezes and coughs like that. We used to always laugh when he did it and poke fun. Not so much anymore.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    torres9kop wrote: »
    Feels like this....

    That's the movie I was thinking of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




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