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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Claims are from Irish health authority modelling figures.
    It's a sombre read.

    Modelling they have seen suggests a 30% infection rate best case, while 50% worst case.

    Inside the paper one of the headlines is '... Over 80s most likely to perish'.

    Not sure choice of words suitable for a paper of it's standard.

    By "suitable for a paper of it's standard" that it's not a rag?
    I didn't even know the paper existed and when I saw the headline I dismissed it immediately as rubbish.

    Is it time to hoard yet?
    Any comments made by the hse or just Monday to Friday 9-5

    I'm wouldn't be worried about myself at all. Parents would be older though with my father having diabetes.
    Yet the reality is we have only got 19 confirmed cases so it's hard to see an outbreak growing that much and so quickly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    5% would be 240,000 infections. Evidence suggests that approx 20% of cases require hospitalisation (with oxygen) and 5% intensive care (though it's 10% in ICU in Lombardy!). Let's go down to 10% require hospitalisation - that's 24,000 hospital cases. Our normal bed occupancy is already maxed out - according to the INMO there were more than 10,000 people on trolleys in February 2020 waiting for beds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    I think the point might be if ‘panic’ encouraged everyone to modify their behaviour and practice the recommended hygiene there might be a positive outcome here.

    Fair point but I would argue that there is no such thing as a little bit of panic in scenarios like this. It's either full blown panic or calmness with no in between IMO. I can't see any positive outcome related to creating a panicking mindset. I believe that hygiene behaviours and practices are down to each individual and at the panic stage I don't think ppl are going to bother focusing on hygiene behaviours and practices because they'll be too busy panicking about eventually getting the virus rather than being in a prevention mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1236629220308156423

    Then surely St Patrick's Day parade's have to be cancelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    iguana wrote: »
    Another thing to be conscious of with this is that there is a decent chance that for fit people too much exertion from exercising in the early or mild stages of the illness may be a factor that increases the severity. I normally exercise all the time but have decided to be alert to how I'm feeling and make careful decisions around exercising. Instead of pushing my fitness, endurance and strength levels I've decided that for now, I'm going to focus on posture, flexibility and muscle health. So no high intensity if I'm feeling at all unwell and instead focus on pilates, yoga, very short gentle callisthenics routines and extra walks in fresh air. It's actually really hard as my mental health definitely feels a bit more susceptible to stress when I'm not having my usual outlet but I will adapt and find a way to make this work.

    This too. A 200km cycle with a massive physical exertion is gonna leave my resources low.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    iguana wrote: »
    Another thing to be conscious of with this is that there is a decent chance that for fit people too much exertion from exercising in the early or mild stages of the illness may be a factor that increases the severity. I normally exercise all the time but have decided to be alert to how I'm feeling and make careful decisions around exercising. Instead of pushing my fitness, endurance and strength levels I've decided that for now, I'm going to focus on posture, flexibility and muscle health. So no high intensity if I'm feeling at all unwell and instead focus on pilates, yoga, very short gentle callisthenics routines and extra walks in fresh air. It's actually really hard as my mental health definitely feels a bit more susceptible to stress when I'm not having my usual outlet but I will adapt and find a way to make this work.

    Good point.

    Last year I was misdiagnosed as only having an allergy cough so kept going to my workouts. I was nearly choking as I was doing some exercises but thought that was me “man fluing” it. Got an x Ray and told all grand. 2 weeks later get a call and told I had pneumonia.

    But working out made it worse, I was in bits after workouts and didn’t recover well afterwards. I’ve heard that before if you think you have this rest yourself as much as possible. Take as much strain off your heart as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Let's be blunt - We'd be overrun at 5%.

    We’re overrun as it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    By "suitable for a paper of it's standard" that it's not a rag?
    I didn't even know the paper existed and when I saw the headline I dismissed it immediately as rubbish.

    Is it time to hoard yet?
    Any comments made by the hse or just Monday to Friday 9-5

    Statements will be made by the HSE via press release as they were made yesterday.

    What's all this HSE Monday to Friday 9 to 5 vitriol? Is it supposed to be funny or clever or both?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Are the HSE trying to make the country explode? This will cause all-out panic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    MD1990 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1236629220308156423

    Then surely St Patrick's Day parade's have to be cancelled.

    Its a no brainer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    4 more deaths in Spain, total 17 now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    sullivlo wrote: »
    This too. A 200km cycle with a massive physical exertion is gonna leave my resources low.

    And your arse sore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    MD1990 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1236629220308156423

    Then surely St Patrick's Day parade's have to be cancelled.
    12:23
    The HSE has said that it cannot dispute projections that 1.9 million people may fall ill here with coronavirus.

    But it said that the modelling scenario is not completed yet.

    Health officials said that the trends in Italy point towards large numbers of cases.

    An update on confirmed cases here will be given by the National Public Health Emergency Team later.

    To date, there have been 19 confirmed cases in the Republic of Ireland.

    A study in the British Medical Journal last week projected that all COVID-19 cases will hit the NHS over a 9 week period.

    It said that half of these cases would happen over a 3 week period, putting huge pressure on the health services.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0308/1120915-coronavirus-updates/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Now I know you're talking out your hole, because you'd have missed all the original "red zone" villages in the provinces of Cremona and Veneto

    Insulting posters is not nice. But doing it without checking facts ...

    The 25 km radius around the line I described does include Cremona and most of Veneto.

    I don’t understand this need to agressivly attack other posters just for the sake of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    I have heard that the one case unaccounted for apparently had travelled recently, just not from Italy.

    Anyway I hope we see a bit more honesty in the reporting come Monday because there has undoubtedly been some developments since Friday.

    Remember, what you read in the media here is the sanitised rubber stamped press release from the powers that be.

    Truth is we will just have to ride this out and hope for the best, it cannot be contained. China especially does not take the measures they did lightly.

    I'm amazed at people going on about missing holidays or the Patrick's Day celebrations, they will eventually realise that this has much wider repercussions.

    This is not something that will last just a few weeks.


    That is the most important point. The best that can be done is slow down the spread so that the health services can cope as well as possible. But, as time moves, there will most probably be major community impact (and undoubtedly major economic impact). Schools and colleges may close (how will working parents cope with school closures?).Cafes, shops, small businesses will be impacted, or closed down. The exams, even Leaving Cert, may have to be delayed. Maybe there will be quarantines. We are talking about a period of months.

    It is important that the spread of the virus is contained.But it is also important that the whole country is not closed down for several months. Economic impact does not mean just big business - it means everyone and every family. This is important too.

    Anyway, how long do we think people will go along with a close down? It may be all well for a few days but after that it would take a Chinese type intervention to keep a lockdown in force.


    For what it is worth, I think the parades will be cancelled. But what about sports events, nightclubs, city centre pubs, bingo? Maybe some of these may have to go to but hopefully not (the knock on effects would be enormous). But it will never be an easy call on whether or when to shut things down. There is always a balance.


    As for updates. I think once a day is reasonable. I can't see that a running commentary will do any good. Maybe there are confirmed cases since the last announcement (I don't know). But there are probably greater priorities than an immediate announcement - talking to family first, arranging isolation, etc. etc. If they all too late for one day's announcement then they will be included the next day. So what?

    We should all be working on the basis that the virus is in circulation in our locality and maintain what precautions we can. We are in a state of semi-hysteria. Certainly some people are going to die - maybe some known to us individually. So some level of hysteria is understandable but it is hardly going to help.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    Newstalk just had an interview with a newspaper's health correspondent.

    The authorities are expecting a worst-case scenario of 40% of the population (1.9 million people) contracting the virus.

    If that occurred, our health system would be overrun.

    Whats the timeframe for infection? How many at any one time will be infected?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Miike wrote: »
    Statements will be made by the HSE via press release as they were made yesterday.

    What's all this HSE Monday to Friday 9 to 5 vitriol? Is it supposed to be funny or clever or both?

    Not meant to be funny or vitriol. The hse officers aren't hospital staff. They are office staff. I presume they work Monday to Friday 9-5 like many offices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    sunday times today
    human Guinea pigs in a london lab are to be given a form of the killer virus

    ffs it's not Ebola the reason its spreads so quick is that it doesnt kill you. nothing like a click bait headline.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Mr.S wrote: »
    1.9m sick in Ireland? Forget about the parade, that's total breakdown of the country.

    Nice knowing you all!

    1.9m infected =/= 1.9m sick. I don't think anyone can dispute that there will be bad outcomes and tragedies for people and families directly from covid19 and those suffering from other medical issues but even so this is not going to be total breakdown of the country.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    By "suitable for a paper of it's standard" that it's not a rag?
    I didn't even know the paper existed and when I saw the headline I dismissed it immediately as rubbish.

    Is it time to hoard yet?
    Any comments made by the hse or just Monday to Friday 9-5

    I'm wouldn't be worried about myself at all. Parents would be older though with my father having diabetes.
    Yet the reality is we have only got 19 confirmed cases so it's hard to see an outbreak growing that much and so quickly

    More of the "sure it will be grand" mentality. Just read up about exponential growth including many posts on the previous versions of this thread and you might very soon be changing your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Italy has banned Italians from traveling. I don’t think they are allowed to ban other nationalities but we are allowed to ban Irish from traveling to/from Italy. I’ve said before we should have had a school/work ban of at least 7 days for travelers to Italy.

    Worth noting as well how powerful the big business lobby is ie the difference in how the government is treating the Coronavirus to how they reacted to foot and mouth. The farmers wouldn’t have stood for it and they were right. But it’s too late now, the enemy isn’t at the gate, he’s inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Are the HSE trying to make the country explode? This will cause all-out panic.

    Yeah better to ignore it and it will go away.
    God forbid we panic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,337 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    More of the sure "it will be grand" mentality.Just read up about exponential growth including many posts on the previous versions of this thread and you might very soon be changing your opinion.

    Why read nonsense on boards? Ill wait for the numbers before I go out and spend 100 quid on bog roll


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    1.9m with a 2% death rate is almost 40,000 deaths. Jaysus.

    There'll hardly be a family untouched if that happens.

    That's surely worst case scenario.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Yeah better to ignore it and it will go away.
    God forbid we panic

    Panic has never helped anyone ever, don’t be ridiculous.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    More of the sure "it will be grand" mentality.Just read up about exponential growth including many posts on the previous versions of this thread and you might very soon be changing your opinion.

    How many cases do we have? 19 at present.
    Il stick to the current reality and leave the panic to those who enjoy it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Yeah better to ignore it and it will go away.
    God forbid we panic

    Ah cmon, there is ignoring it to telling people half the population will get it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Are the HSE trying to make the country explode? This will cause all-out panic.

    Read the previous thread and you’ll see endless complaints HSE are keeping us in the dark

    There Is no way they can win. Inform people? They’re causing panic!!
    Withold information? They’re lying to us!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    mloc123 wrote: »
    I know the answer...

    And so do I, I'm just not bothered answering silly leading questions because they're not constructive for such important discussions


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