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Formula 1 2020 - General Discussion Thread (See MOD warning on first post)

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  • Subscribers Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    AMKC wrote: »
    Lol. So Red Bull think they might have done better if Ferrari had not cheated and that is only if Ferrari did cheat which no one can prove.

    I do not think Ferrari cheated. They worked hard and found some extra performance in the engine. Would people prefer Ferrari were not competitive with Mercedes now and Mercedes run away with it again and again until they get bored and leave F1?

    I agree totally nothing proven and they it was the most interesting part of the season last year when Ferrari was able to get a slight advantage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Finished watching Drive to Survive. Not as good as Season 1 but still a decent watch. Yeah, it was a bit dramatised but that's the essence of making it interesting. Not sure why people have issue with how Will Buxton speaks, he's always been like that and that's why I think he's watchable to a lot of other people. I do enjoy his Paddock Pass as he's not constrained, and he's had that cheeky grin plenty of times before.

    Anyhow, all in all, still watchable so I'd recommend. Even the better half sat through it with me, so it must of ticked a box!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    A couple of friends in work watched it and asked me how they could start watching F1. I gave them the sky link and their response was "Lol **** that! I could buy like five Netflixes for that!".

    I imagine that will be the response from a very high percentage of the people who could otherwise have become new F1 viewers due to Drive to Survive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,799 ✭✭✭This is it


    A couple of friends in work watched it and asked me how they could start watching F1. I gave them the sky link and their response was "Lol **** that! I could buy like five Netflixes for that!".

    I imagine that will be the response from a very high percentage of the people who could otherwise have become new F1 viewers due to Drive to Survive.

    I'd imagine anyone with any interest would find a way to watch it without paying Sky subs if they really wanted to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    A couple of friends in work watched it and asked me how they could start watching F1. I gave them the sky link and their response was "Lol **** that! I could buy like five Netflixes for that!".

    I imagine that will be the response from a very high percentage of the people who could otherwise have become new F1 viewers due to Drive to Survive.

    You could have just said its on Channel 4. Sure not live but then they would not have to watch all the boring parts. I would say if some of them that did watch Drive to Survive actually watched say Melbourne, Monaco or Singapore live they would be bored of it in 10 minutes and switch over to something else. Sure there might be the maybe one that will actually like it and get into it but the maturity will get bored of it if they were never into it before.

    I got my two sisters into it years back and one even went to the British GP with her then boyfriend but they are not into it as much now one has a little baby now but does have it on in the background sometimes and the other is busy with enjoying life.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    A couple of friends in work watched it and asked me how they could start watching F1. I gave them the sky link and their response was "Lol **** that! I could buy like five Netflixes for that!".

    I imagine that will be the response from a very high percentage of the people who could otherwise have become new F1 viewers due to Drive to Survive.


    I haven't paid a penny to watch F1 since 2014.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    GarIT wrote: »
    I haven't paid a penny to watch F1 since 2014.

    Same. Though that's not on principle. If Virgin Media carried Sky F1 & offered it as an extra, I'd likely pay for it. OR, if Sky offered it as a single add on, & I didn't need to subscribe to an entire Sports bundle of channels that I'd never watch, I'd strongly consider that too. But the way it is, it's nowhere near worth the price imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭g1983d


    Inviere wrote: »
    Same. Though that's not on principle. If Virgin Media carried Sky F1 & offered it as an extra, I'd likely pay for it. OR, if Sky offered it as a single add on, & I didn't need to subscribe to an entire Sports bundle of channels that I'd never watch, I'd strongly consider that too. But the way it is, it's nowhere near worth the price imo.

    I got it in sky by subscribing to the hd package €15 a month, every year ring to cancel and they know 50% off so €7.50 a month

    At the time they were promoting the hd package so not sure if still available but worth a check


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Rewatching the 1998 Belgian GP last night.

    What a race.

    So many retirements and crashes.

    But also some amazing racing.

    I hope we get some wet weather this year. Feels like every race it threatens but never happens.

    Definitely adds to race day, unpredictability etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I'd love to know how people are watching this, as my sources are pure crap


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    g1983d wrote: »
    I got it in sky by subscribing to the hd package €15 a month, every year ring to cancel and they know 50% off so €7.50 a month

    At the time they were promoting the hd package so not sure if still available but worth a check

    That offer is long gone afaik. €7.50 a month is a nice price point for a channel I'd watch usually twice a month 9 months of the year. The price today to get the channel is farcical imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I'd love to know how people are watching this, as my sources are pure crap

    Sky sports F1. Simple. There are no other legal “sources”.

    You pay your money and enjoy.

    Can not wait for Australia!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Sky sports F1. Simple. There are no other legal “sourcesâ€.


    As others have said, it's too bloody expensive, it's killing sport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    g1983d wrote: »
    I got it in sky by subscribing to the hd package €15 a month, every year ring to cancel and they know 50% off so €7.50 a month

    At the time they were promoting the hd package so not sure if still available but worth a check

    I had it for €5 a month, on top of the sky basic package but they were trying to take it off me at any opportunity. If I wanted to add broadband they would take it away because thats a new contract, if I wanted sky to fix my dish they would take it away because I'd be on a new contract. I can't remember why I lost it but cancelled sky the same day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    As others have said, it's too bloody expensive, it's killing sport

    Ah here if you enjoy the sport pay your money.

    I have zero issue in paying for sky so I can watch every race on the calendar. I watch a bit of fair bit of the qualy and GP2 too so there’s plenty of value there when you break it down.

    Not everything is free in life.

    Channel 4 do highlights for fair weather cheapo “fans”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Ah here if you enjoy the sport pay your money.


    I don't as much as I use to, I think big money is killing sport in general, and subscription services are playing a major role in that. I'm amazed of the amount of sports fans flocking towards alternative sources to view, I wonder will live sport fall faul to its own 'success'. Don't blame people moving either, it's just too damn expensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    it's just too damn expensive

    Is it though?

    If you’re going to watch it alone you’re paying what €40 a month for sky sports? So if all you watch is 2 races a month that’s less than a price of a pay per view.

    I can’t go to every race so as a fan I would happily pay that.

    Just like I can’t get to every boxing match so I’d happily pay €25 or whatever the PPV is to see the likes of Wilder V Fury.

    A ticket to the actual stadium along with travel etc to see these events would cost exponentially more.

    I hope to go to a race this year but I outside of that will more than happily pay for sky.

    I just wish the F1 channel would do a bit more with it than repeats etc. Could be so much more for the fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Is it though?


    Yes, sports subscription is too expensive, hence the increase in alternatives


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭corminators


    F1 themselves were selling it to US fans for $2.73 per race this month via F1 tv Pro (if you bought the whole season). I signed up for their US marketing email list to see their offerings.

    So $5 per month is what F1 think F1 is worth.

    Sky = ripoff.
    End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Zagato


    Is it though?

    If you’re going to watch it alone you’re paying what €40 a month for sky sports? So if all you watch is 2 races a month that’s less than a price of a pay per view.

    I can’t go to every race so as a fan I would happily pay that.

    Just like I can’t get to every boxing match so I’d happily pay €25 or whatever the PPV is to see the likes of Wilder V Fury.

    A ticket to the actual stadium along with travel etc to see these events would cost exponentially more.

    I hope to go to a race this year but I outside of that will more than happily pay for sky.

    I just wish the F1 channel would do a bit more with it than repeats etc. Could be so much more for the fans.

    If Sky didn't have exclusive deal, we'd be able yo pay €50-100 for the entire season on F1TV Pro. So compared to that it is too expensive. Too much of the money that you pay sky going in footballers pockets, and I've no interest in paying for that.

    Also, I did manage to subscribe to and watch F1TV Pro last year for just about €60. But it was cumbersome (due to the geoblocking) and could not put it on TV, but worked quite well on phone/laptop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭flazio



    Channel 4 do highlights for fair weather cheapo “fans”.

    Channel 4 have a far more professional team. (Yes, even Steven Jones would have more class then to ask two drivers their feelings on the Hubert death just as they are walking from the tribute at the front of the grid back to their cars)
    I know Eir don't get a lot of things right, but I miss their bare bones live access to Ben Edwards and David Coulthard commentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Not everything is free in life.

    Who said people want it free though? People are noting it's priced quite highly, and that's a valid observation. The best I can see here is a basic, one tv sub to Sky TV, with the Sports add on, in HD, is €63 per month. Now for you, that might seem like value if you watch a lot of sports, and you'd get the value out of it. Imagine though there are people out there who would literally only be interested in turning that Sky box one for a few hours a month. The value proposition drops sharply. That's a basic package, one tv, no broadband, either.
    Channel 4 do highlights for fair weather cheapo “fans”.

    What a knob thing to say :rolleyes: F1 throughout its history has been legally free to watch, until the Sky deal. There are people out there who've watched decades of the sport, and who might struggle to find another €60 per month to keep watching it....and in your eyes they're now 'fair weather cheapo fans'? Feck off outta that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ah here if you enjoy the sport pay your money.

    I have zero issue in paying for sky so I can watch every race on the calendar. I watch a bit of fair bit of the qualy and GP2 too so there’s plenty of value there when you break it down.

    Not everything is free in life.

    Channel 4 do highlights for fair weather cheapo “fans”.

    Yeah I'm a "fair weather cheapo". No way I'm paying for sky just to watch F1.

    The "fair weather cheapo" highlights are also the only way new fans can get into the sport without a subscription. So its absolutely about to die on its feet.

    Going behind a paywall is a death sentence for a sport -with the exception of football. Motorsport isn't something you can play in real life. Football needs minimum 2 bloke's and a ball to play. Motor racing needs loads of equipment.

    So new young people will just never get Into it en masse and it will die. I'm,watching the same thing happen with Rugby. It's about to go entirely behind a pay wall and, it too, will diminish.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I'd pay €10 a month for access to it no problem. I'm not paying €65 a month for it.

    I'm a lifelong huge F1 fan. The reason I don't pay it? I don't want to give sky the money, and secondly (and more importantly) when 75% of my salary is spent on rent, I really need to sacrifice certain things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Inviere wrote: »
    Who said people want it free though? People are noting it's priced quite highly, and that's a valid observation. The best I can see here is a basic, one tv sub to Sky TV, with the Sports add on, in HD, is €63 per month. Now for you, that might seem like value if you watch a lot of sports, and you'd get the value out of it. Imagine though there are people out there who would literally only be interested in turning that Sky box one for a few hours a month. The value proposition drops sharply. That's a basic package, one tv, no broadband, either.



    What a knob thing to say :rolleyes: F1 throughout its history has been legally free to watch, until the Sky deal. There are people out there who've watched decades of the sport, and who might struggle to find another €60 per month to keep watching it....and in your eyes they're now 'fair weather cheapo fans'? Feck off outta that.

    Just because something was free in the past doesn’t mean it always will be.

    €60 is €2 a day approx so for less than the price of a daily newspaper you could watch the sport you supposedly love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    €60 is €2 a day approx so for less than the price of a daily newspaper you could watch the sport you supposedly love.


    So when you pay more for something, you love it more?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Just because something was free in the past doesn’t mean it always will be.

    €60 is €2 a day approx so for less than the price of a daily newspaper you could watch the sport you supposedly love.

    That is comparing apples and oranges. It's not €2 per day. It's €30 a race...

    If there was a race everyday, then yes it's €2 a day but there's not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Just because something was free in the past doesn’t mean it always will be.

    Once again, nobody is asking for it to be free.
    €60 is €2 a day

    If there was a race every day, yeah. That's not how it works though. Not only is there a race every two weeks usually, there's a near x4 month gap in the off season too! Let's break it down:

    €63 per month, so €756 for a year.
    21 races for the 2019 calendar.
    €756 into 21 races equals €36 per race

    That's for x1 tv in the house, with no broadband (a far more important utility than broadcast tv these days I would say). In comparison, F1 TV is .50 cent per week for the year. Granted it's replay based, not live, but considering the savings...Sky is insanity if you only want F1 imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,316 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yeah I'm a "fair weather cheapo". No way I'm paying for sky just to watch F1.

    The "fair weather cheapo" highlights are also the only way new fans can get into the sport without a subscription. So its absolutely about to die on its feet.

    Going behind a paywall is a death sentence for a sport -with the exception of football. Motorsport isn't something you can play in real life. Football needs minimum 2 bloke's and a ball to play. Motor racing needs loads of equipment.

    So new young people will just never get Into it en masse and it will die. I'm,watching the same thing happen with Rugby. It's about to go entirely behind a pay wall and, it too, will diminish.

    Strange how F1 is gaining in popularity.


    Nowadays the vast majority watch sports and tv shows that are paywalled/subscription based for free. New fans can easily watch races, easier than bothering with subscriptions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    €60 is €2 a day approx so for less than the price of a daily newspaper you could watch the sport you supposedly love.

    I can't afford to pay for a daily newspaper either. For probably half the population €60 a month is the difference between being able to fix your car when it breaks so you can still get to work, being able to buy that thing your kid wants, not being cold for the winter, or even for the 20% on the poverty line just being able to eat. Plenty of things are worth more than an hour and a half of watching Hamilton and whoever is closest behind him while the TV director ignores everything else.

    I had a subscription when it was €31 but not at €60. And I still get bombarded with the advertising at the race, I buy a Red Bull now and again instead of Monster or another brand, I have a Red Bull hat, I have a Ferrari backpack, I sometimes buy the games, I bought some tech made by Trust over another brand because they sponsored Minardi back in something like 2002, I've been to Monza not too long ago. They definitely get their money out of me, and if asked I'm sure they wouldn't say I should stop watching F1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Strange how F1 is gaining in popularity.


    Nowadays the vast majority watch sports and tv shows that are paywalled/subscription based for free. New fans can easily watch races, easier than bothering with subscriptions.

    is F1 gaining in popularity in countries where the races are behind a pay wall? The UK for example or Ireland specifically?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    GarIT wrote: »
    I can't afford to pay for a daily newspaper either.

    Even at that, it's like buying a newspaper every single day of the year, and only reading 21 of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    If someone wanted to watch a major heavyweight fight they pay for it or stream it illegally with a poor connection or watch a crappy version on YouTube the following day.

    Options are there for people to cheap to buy it. Use them or pay the money. It is what it is and isn’t going to change any time soon.

    What was once a free to view sport is not anymore. That’s capitalism for ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    If someone wanted to watch a major heavyweight fight they pay for it or stream it illegally with a poor connection or watch a crappy version on YouTube the following day.

    Options are there for people to cheap to buy it. Use them or pay the money. It is what it is and isn’t going to change any time soon.

    What was once a free to view sport is not anymore. That’s capitalism for ya.

    I stream it in full HD at a higher bitrate than a Sky HD box can deliver. Not sure about Sky Q.
    The only think I miss is being able to pause it, that works sometimes but it's not always consistent.

    Liberty have said they wanted to make it FTA worldwide but existing agreements prevented that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,572 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    We keep a sky package regardless of whether we want f1 or not because it just works better than free tv options plus I watch lots of motoring shows and other stuff on discovery channels.
    On top of that, f1 costs us €7.50 or so per month. Bargain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,220 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    If someone wanted to watch a major heavyweight fight they pay for it or stream it illegally with a poor connection or watch a crappy version on YouTube the following day.


    Maybe you need to see cheaper alternatives, some are almost as good as sky, there's no need for those sky prices.

    Capatalism has been around a lot longer than sky, we ve just entered a potentially dangerous phase of it, whereby monoplies try to extract more wealth by rent seeking activities, as companies such as sky are doing, there's really no need for it, potentially very dangerous also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    If someone wanted to watch a major heavyweight fight they pay for it or stream it illegally with a poor connection or watch a crappy version on YouTube the following day.

    You've the choice to watch that fight though, or this fight, or any fight. You don't have to drop over €700 a year on a forced subscription to watch 21 fights.
    Options are there for people to cheap to buy it. Use them or pay the money. It is what it is and isn’t going to change any time soon.

    If I could give Virgin Media €10 a month to access Sky F1, I'd give it in a heartbeat. As it stands, I can't, & I'd have to subscribe to Sky giving them the aforementioned €700 a year to watch it. It just doesn't make sense for me, because I only want F1 and nothing else Sky offers. It's quite anti-consumer how they've tied it up like this, not even offering third party access through VM, Eir, etc. So no, I can't support that.
    What was once a free to view sport is not anymore. That’s capitalism for ya.

    And for the third time, nobody is asking for it to be free. Sure, that'd be great, but a small fee to access a single channel wouldn't be a deal breaker. An almost four digit annual fee for a single channel 8 months of the year? Yeah, I'll happily stick with alternative methods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Inviere


    GarIT wrote: »
    Liberty have said they wanted to make it FTA worldwide but existing agreements prevented that.

    I'd actually prefer F1 not to go back FTA as mad as that sounds. It just reeks of advertising breaks, and F1 really doesn't handle advertising breaks well at all. A small premium to keep the race coverage ad-free is something I'd prefer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,780 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    GarIT wrote: »
    I stream it in full HD at a higher bitrate than a Sky HD box can deliver. Not sure about Sky Q.
    The only think I miss is being able to pause it, that works sometimes but it's not always consistent.

    Liberty have said they wanted to make it FTA worldwide but existing agreements prevented that.

    That last line is just fundamentally wrong, if Liberty wanted to make it available FTA there would be no such thing as F1TV. They wanted to roll out F1TV worldwide but existing agreements mean they can't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    skipper_G wrote: »
    That last line is just fundamentally wrong, if Liberty wanted to make it available FTA there would be no such thing as F1TV. They wanted to roll out F1TV worldwide but existing agreements mean they can't.

    I can only quote what they have said. Their actions may not line up with their words. F1 TV is compatible with it also being free to air, ad supported. If I'm recalling correctly it is currently free to air in the US with no interruptions just a sponsored by Mother's oils logo in the corner for the whole race.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    We'll have to wait until 2024 to see how things shake out. I'm thinking the big emphasis will be on making a good quality programme on a dedicated F1 channel owned by liberty, so that they can sell it on on every platform.

    I'm not sure what liberty's plans are but they're in this to make money, and to do that they need viewers. So perhaps they'll not focus on European viewers for a few years until the end of the sky contract.

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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭antodeco



    Options are there for people to cheap to buy it. Use them or pay the money. It is what it is and isn’t going to change any time soon.

    I actually have an IPTV service that costs me €60 a year. I literally only use it for F1 (and the odd match). Im not "too cheap to buy it". F1 is too expensive to buy it. There is a fundamental difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    antodeco wrote: »
    I actually have an IPTV service that costs me €60 a year. I literally only use it for F1 (and the odd match). Im not "too cheap to buy it". F1 is too expensive to buy it. There is a fundamental difference

    We’ll agree to disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I have been watching F1 on TV for up to 2 decades. If people back then would have said to you that you would need to pay to watch every race via a paywall. You would have been classed as a spoofer. Sky's subscription prices for these F1 GP's at the moment are eye-watering for a casual consumer living here in Ireland. Lewis Hamilton even said last year that he did not like the fact that all of the races apart from the British GP shown on a paywall in the UK.

    I think when the Sky deal ends in the UK in 2024. The amount of price increases required from Sky to all of the F1 fans in Ireland & the UK would go into an unpalatable territory for a lot of them. If people are not watching enough of the other sports just to pay & see F1. They will be more likely to try other legal alternatives for viewing the GP's in future. There has to be a point in time where any of the F1 fans don't get accustomed with too much subscription fatigue to watch their favourite sports among with the other optional streaming services they like to use in their spare time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,630 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I have been watching F1 on TV for up to 2 decades. If people back then would have said to you that you would need to pay to watch every race via a paywall. You would have been classed as a spoofer.

    I got into it in my first year in secondary school. All the lads were talking about it on Monday mornings and I got into it because it was on rte for free.

    Now the lads wouldn't have been talking about it because they couldn't see it for free and I wouldn't have gotten into it either because they wouldn't have been talking about it.

    The pay wall is an admission that they're not really interested in new fans and they prefer to milk the fans they already have instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I have been watching F1 on TV for up to 2 decades. If people back then would have said to you that you would need to pay to watch every race via a paywall. You would have been classed as a spoofer. Sky's subscription prices for these F1 GP's at the moment are eye-watering for a casual consumer living here in Ireland. Lewis Hamilton even said last year that he did not like the fact that all of the races apart from the British GP shown on a paywall in the UK.

    I think when the Sky deal ends in the UK in 2024. The amount of price increases required from Sky to all of the F1 fans in Ireland & the UK would go into an unpalatable territory for a lot of them. If people are not watching enough of the other sports just to pay & see F1. They will be more likely to try other legal alternatives for viewing the GP's in future. There has to be a point in time where any of the F1 fans don't get accustomed with too much subscription fatigue to watch their favourite sports among with the other optional streaming services they like to use in their spare time.


    No new deal will be signed that doesn't allow for F1 TV at least, so Sky will have one reasonably priced competitor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭limerickpat


    GarIT wrote: »
    No new deal will be signed that doesn't allow for F1 TV at least, so Sky will have one reasonably priced competitor.

    Thats going to be really good news. MotoGP fans here can subscribe to video pass to avoid the new sky sports extra pack which I presume is very expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    load of italian provinces have just gone into lockdown including modena


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Grim. wrote: »
    load of italian provinces have just gone into lockdown including modena

    That's not going to please the Aussies who want the Italian teams to go through a 14 day quarantine with less than 14 days to the race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Options are there for people to cheap to buy it.
    Get off your high horse there fella! :rolleyes:


    I can afford it, but considering our tv might get turned on maybe twice a week, I'll be f**ked if I'm giving Sky over 700 a year for minimal viewing. Many others have mentioned (and you conveniently keep ignoring) that they're not necessarily looking for it for free, but for a reasonable cost. The value for money just isn't there for an awful lot of people.


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