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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #8192
    lainey_d_123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    109pc right chinese middle class are clowns new wealth, imo they may have travelled to get eu hospital if they got sick... better chances than in china...

    Time to ban them. Tourist money isn't worth taking risks like this. It's cost millions already, cancelled events, enormous economic impacts, without even getting into the lives lost.

    Funny how you're not allowed to board a flight with nail scissors in your hand luggage in case you use them as a weapon, but let's just let in hordes of people from developing countries with little to no hygiene standards...what could go wrong?


  • #8193
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Close the border completely. Cancel all public events. Close schools and work.

    Ruin the economy and send us back to the 70's resulting in more misery than the corona virus could possibly inflict.

    So basically your saying fúck anyone in a high risk group, "Brand Ireland" is more important.
    I've said this already, I'm not overly concerned about myself but I am for some close family and friends who are high risk. I think most people would make sacrifices to protect loved ones. Dublin has reached peak tourism, I'd welcome a few less around.


  • #8194
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    All the governments around the world are telling the organization's not to mention the C word, because if you cancel you open up a raft of insurance claims, so they won't cancel events where possible like paddys day and when they have to cancel like they will with the Olympics they will wait til the last minute


  • #8195
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    NH2013 wrote: »
    And what about all the Irish currently skiing in Italy, or visiting there for work or to see family? Do we just lock out our own citizens for the next 6 months? Many could have been there two weeks before the outbreak really took hold.

    Keep in mind the two cases we have in Ireland are Irish people who've brought it home with them, not Italians here on holidays. Are you saying we should just close the borders and keep Irish people out, friends and family?

    No. Nobody is saying that at all. It's a strawman


  • #8196
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Does anyone understand that if you try to reduce a risk that doesn't mean you have to eliminate it totally.

    The argument seems to be shut down everthing or take no precautions at all. You can't postpone anything because some people will still come. So let's do nothing.

    Well said. Some people would rather no restrictions than even a minimum amount. Business owners perhaps? Or like Dr Mcconkeys deplorable interview on prime time I think it was on 18 February. "Sure we can't see o anything it will need up the economy" or words to that effect.


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  • #8197
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Realistically who in the right mind would do that? It's too much hassle. Airports bring out the worst in people sometimes. It's ridiculous and daft to fly eg from Italy to Germany or France or London and onwards to Dublin. It's absolutely ridiculous and no one in the right mind would do that.

    Genoa to Nice is a 2 hour drive.
    Turin to Nice/Geneva is a 3 hour drive.
    Many people in Galway fly out of Dublin (2.5 hour drive to a manky car park miles from departures).


  • #8198
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    commie love in lol a great bunch of lads whats a few hundred million dead in their past..

    I hate Communism and I hate the Chinese Government.

    I feel sorry for the people of China living under that bunch of Mafia but only the Chinese people can take them down.

    The USSR and the Eastern Block fell.


  • #8199
    AmberGold
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Paddy's day won't go ahead no matter what they say now imo. It'll be literally like that dog 'everything is fine' meme with the cases in other countries even if we get away with a lag before then.

    Yep, if global trends play out here we’ll quickly hit double digits and will have no choice. Likewise the Olympic committee are stalling on making a hard decision, if this thing doesn’t fizzle out by early April it’ll be cancelled.

    As someone said over the last few days “whatever we do before before the pandemic will seem alarmist and after inadequate”

    Great report from Wuhan this evening on the C4 news would frighten the bejasus out of ya!


  • #8200
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    All the governments around the world are telling the organization's not to mention the C word, because if you cancel you open up a raft of insurance claims

    Christmas.
    It’s only fookin March.


  • #8201
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    lainey_d_123 wrote: »
    Time to ban them. Tourist money isn't worth taking risks like this. It's cost millions already, cancelled events, enormous economic impacts, without even getting into the lives lost.

    Funny how you're not allowed to board a flight with nail scissors in your hand luggage in case you use them as a weapon, but let's just let in hordes of people from developing countries with little to no hygiene standards...what could go wrong?

    Ban people from developing nations...that escalated quickly


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  • #8202
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Yeah let's mitigate the risk airport by airport, region by region and then country by country and then nationality by nationality then we can restrict people of a certain age etc etc. Don't tell the virus our plans. We cannot close borders in the modern world for months on end. It's not feasible.


    Not everything, goods are ok, mainly flights from affected areas. Most are non essential anyway.


  • #8203
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Anyone visiting any part of Italy is now both selfish and reckless. What cannot wait until another time?!


  • #8204
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Hopefully. Although, Singapore.

    Also, the temps in Qom, Iran right now, are about our summer temps or higher, high teens or low to mid twenties.

    Not sure if the numbers across regions like Africa or India are due to lack of testing, higher temperatures or just the time lag.

    Still so much uncertainty.

    It's not just temperature it's also UV light and countries in the northern hemisphere still have short daylight hours.


  • #8205
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Ban people from developing nations...that escalated quickly

    China is a superpower not a developing nation.


  • #8206
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Genoa to Nice is a 2 hour drive. Turin to Nice/Geneva is 3 hour drive.
    Many people in Galway fly out of Dublin (2.5 hour drive).

    So what? You think vast amounts of italians are going to bother their hole driving to another country to get a flight just to go on a city break.


  • #8207
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    I have lived with the mistaken impression that the first responsibility of government in a democratic society was to protect and safeguard the lives of its citizens.

    That HSE news conference was a disgrace.

    But I suppose it is nice to know what the governments and HSE's real priorities are.

    - Business is more important than citizens lives.

    - Cattle health is more important than citizens lives.

    - Older people - f*uck em

    A sad day.

    This is absolute nonsense. Business is not more important than citizens' lives. If there's a recession, the poorest citizens will suffer first. Poverty kills. And it will kill a lot more than covid19, this year, last year, next year, every year.


  • #8208
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Talisman


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    We are still not restricting travel to and from Italy. I don’t understand the logic of not restrictions being put in place.
    Doing so would expose the state to legal action from airlines that operate those routes. Also freedom of movement is kind of a cornerstone of EU citizen rights - it's not possible for an EU state to deny access to any person that has already passed within the borders of another EU state.


  • #8209
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Yeah let's mitigate the risk airport by airport, region by region and then country by country and then nationality by nationality then we can restrict people of a certain age etc etc. Don't tell the virus our plans. We cannot close borders in the modern world for months on end. It's not feasible.

    It's really quite simple. You say nobody from origin X. Then check passport on entry. Not rocket science. They should have a social responsibility and not spread the infection. Same way absenteeism costs billions every year cause people go to work when they are sick (mostly to be seen).

    I've recently advised relatives not to travel for our son's Birthday. This was in early January. They are in northern Italy. They thanked me when it all start kicking off last week.

    https://www.peoplemattersglobal.com/article/wellness/the-cost-of-presenteeism-23679


  • #8210
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    lainey_d_123 wrote: »
    Time to ban them. Tourist money isn't worth taking risks like this. It's cost millions already, cancelled events, enormous economic impacts, without even getting into the lives lost.

    Funny how you're not allowed to board a flight with nail scissors in your hand luggage in case you use them as a weapon, but let's just let in hordes of people from developing countries with little to no hygiene standards...what could go wrong?

    Maybe we should round them up? Put them on trains? Wake up lad.


  • #8211
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    China is a superpower not a developing nation.

    I am referring to the other person's comment
    Take it up with them. Thanks

    I never even referred to China in that comment.


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  • #8212
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Why no update from HSE this evening?


  • #8213
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Ban people from developing nations...that escalated quickly

    That poster has a serious illness and a compromised immune system the fear is very understandable maybe cut them a break?


  • #8214
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    lainey_d_123 wrote: »
    They started SARS and didn't learn from that. If they want to live like they do, they could at least do the rest of us a favour and stop travelling to Europe to take in 21 countries in a week so they can go home and boast.

    Current outbreak in Italy 100% down to people like that.

    The SARS fake epidemic of 2003. You are trying to re-write history there.


  • #8215
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    So what? You think vast amounts of italians are going to bother their hole driving to another country to get a flight just to go on a city break.

    It's about the message the government is sending to the public as well. A ban says 'we are fully against travel to and from affected areas', whereas as it stands you'll have people saying to themselves 'ah shur it can't be that bad if they're still allowing flights, I might as well!'


  • #8216
    lainey_d_123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    China is a superpower not a developing nation.

    Hate to break it to you, but it's still considered a developing nation by the WTO. Still millions there living in poverty, enormous inequality, hygiene and health and safety light years behind what's acceptable in the EU, atrocious pollution.

    You might want to read a book sometime.


  • #8217
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Why no update from HSE this evening?

    Link?

    Yesterday was around 8.15pm.


  • #8218
    embraer170
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    If that's not enough to stop all flights to Italy at this stage I dont know what is.

    The vast majority of cases in either European countries all originate in Italy

    We shouldn't be stopping all flights to Northern Italy, the whole region should be closed off for a few weeks.

    People should remind themselves of this:
    China shut down Wuhan on 22nd January with 550 or so cases. This grew to 70,000 cases three weeks later before the slow down in new cases started.

    Italy now has over 3000 cases and only now are we seriously talking about closing schools, universities, etc.


  • #8219
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Holy ****, this thread just went there.


  • #8220
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    That poster has a serious illness and a compromised immune system the fear is very understandable maybe cut them a break?

    By saying that escalated quickly? Are you alright?


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  • #8221
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    trisha e wrote: »
    Work colleague has just returned from Japan ,another has child in school caitriona.and another had child on skiing trip at half term. No hand sanitisers in office either.several people have coughs and colds now and we're all a bit worried .

    Do you have wash hand basins? I say lots of employers have tried to get sanitiser but it’s sold out. Use a tissue or kitchen roll to open doors.


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