Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Ikozma · 04-03-2020 10:12AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Wanna expand on that?

It's like a huge thread about the flu and how bad it is and how it's spreading everywhere, with a **** load of posters, none of whom have or know anyone with said flu, tis hillarious

scotchy · 04-03-2020 10:17AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235130735335542784

josip · 04-03-2020 10:18AM

Ikozma wrote: »

It's like a huge thread about the flu and how bad it is and how it's spreading everywhere, with a **** load of posters, none of whom have or know anyone with said flu, tis hillarious

You're posting here too

Glenbhoy · 04-03-2020 10:18AM

circadian wrote: »

Elderly tourists from China you spanner.

Unlikely, the prevalent strain in Italy differs from that detected in the quarantined elderly tourists. It's thought this has been community based for a number of weeks, most likely from people with mild symptoms going about their lives as normal, source unknown.

cloudatlas · 04-03-2020 10:19AM

Problematic headline https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/majority-of-retired-nhs-staff-dont-want-to-return-to-tackle-covid-19-crisis

On the main page it says 'Retired Nhs staff rebuff call to arms'. That way of framing it makes it sound like they are cowards refusing to go to war when their country needs them instead of mentally frazzled people who have given their time and years of their life to helping people. Absolutely **** way of framing it.

Rob A. Bank · 04-03-2020 10:20AM

schmoo2k wrote: »

Yes - its the diff between:
* Eeek I might have it (*after two days symptom free your very very likely to be clear*)
* Bugger I do have it (isolate for 2 weeks)

Remember "COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza" and "only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days".

*Very dangerous misinformation !

Kermit.de.frog · 04-03-2020 10:22AM

India reports 22 new cases so far today. Looks like the surge in cases may be starting there which is kinda expected

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235116798644756481

Malaysia another country where the figures are increasing again. +14 overnight bringing total to 50.

The British have another two cases this morning in Scotland.

YFlyer · 04-03-2020 10:23AM

forzacalcio wrote: »

Why are you even asking this? Are you waiting in the long grass with an armoury of replies to have a pop at this person? Let the person ask. People may have their reasons, from being a nosey neighbour or someone who is genuinely worried. It is not your business, stop lining yourself up to take a moral high ground here.

Yes my reply is to carry out good hygienic practice.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 04-03-2020 10:24AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Problematic headline https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/majority-of-retired-nhs-staff-dont-want-to-return-to-tackle-covid-19-crisis

On the main page it says 'Retired Nhs staff rebuff call to arms'. That way of framing it makes it sound like they are cowards refusing to go to war when their country needs them instead of mentally frazzled people who have given their time and years of their life to helping people. Absolutely **** way of framing it.

Also not a demographic you want to put in the firing line as they are the age group most at risk. Insane idea. Operation get behind the oldies.

TomSweeney · 04-03-2020 10:24AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

*Very dangerous misinformation !

Why , it's from a WHO source - https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020

YFlyer · 04-03-2020 10:24AM

Phil.x wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/03/03/80-people-uk-catch-coronavirus-worst-case-scenario-12339867/amp/

That's extreme.

seamus · 04-03-2020 10:28AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Is google working from home again today?

Last I read, yeah. They're waiting until their member of staff with the flu has been tested.

This is perfect for them really. They'd love to be able to run 90% of their business on remote workers, and now they're getting an opportunity to test it out. Massive savings on costs.

Twitter have apparently also told all workers worldwide to work from home until further notice. Another test of business continuity.

I have set up my company to be able to do this, but we're considerably smaller. While the technical possibility is there, some departments wouldn't know how to log into their various systems remotely. Not rocket science though.

igCorcaigh · 04-03-2020 10:29AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

India reports 22 new cases so far today. Looks like the surge in cases may be starting.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235116798644756481

Malaysia another country where the figures are increasing again. +14 overnight bringing total to 50.

The British have another two cases this morning in Scotland.

Indian cases are imports from Italy I think?

odyssey06 · 04-03-2020 10:30AM

Brenden Agreeable Rabble-rouser wrote: »

Also not a demographic you want to put in the firing line as they are the age group most at risk. Insane idea. Operation get behind the oldies.

I think the idea was that the frontline staff focus on the virus and emergencies, and the 'volunteers' pick up some of the slack in the other areas of the health service (non virus related conditions).

At least that was my understanding of the plan discussed yesterday for the UK.

silver2020 · 04-03-2020 10:30AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Why , it's from a WHO source - https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020

why would anyone believe the WHO or medical experts?

The real info is on fakebook and in the daily muck. "We're all going to die" (that is a 100% true statement - but most of us will die naturally from old age

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woohoo!!! · 04-03-2020 10:30AM

seamus wrote: »

Last I read, yeah. They're waiting until their member of staff with the flu has been tested.

This is perfect for them really. They'd love to be able to run 90% of their business on remote workers, and now they're getting an opportunity to test it out. Massive savings on costs.

Twitter have apparently also told all workers worldwide to work from home until further notice. Another test of business continuity.

I have set up my company to be able to do this, but we're considerably smaller. While the technical possibility is there, some departments wouldn't know how to log into their various systems remotely. Not rocket science though.

Yep, it's really straightforward.

Sigma101 · 04-03-2020 10:31AM

scotchy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235130735335542784

The Germany figures are curious. The number of cases has been increasing linearly for the last week or more (but not exponentially) even though there are cases all over the country, evidence of community infections, and an admission by the authorities last week that they can no longer trace cases. I would have expected far more cases by now if it was to follow the pattern in italy.

Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Germany/0/b3e1e3337c63f69eff93bdedbf3e9b950e2a25ef.png

Italy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Italy/0/9e24b4d0185af4801b5a09f3899cb46030fa10a2.png

gabeeg · 04-03-2020 10:33AM

Brenden Agreeable Rabble-rouser wrote: »

Also not a demographic you want to put in the firing line as they are the age group most at risk. Insane idea. Operation get behind the oldies.

I suppose you could put the oldies in charge of more traditional ailments, and redirect the younguns to the covid front lines.

schmoo2k · 04-03-2020 10:34AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

*Very dangerous misinformation !

I don't believe it is! See last nights W.H.O. media transcript: "only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days".

If you add in the chance that you weren't infected at all then you are very very likely to be clear...

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020

Sawduck · 04-03-2020 10:34AM

At least 3 people at my work have been coughing their lungs up today, if they have the virus I'm screwed

cnocbui · 04-03-2020 10:35AM

ZX7R wrote: »

Men were licking religious shrines because they had no fear of the virus and there God would protect them

Not to mention probably having just had one of their black pawns give it a good clean with bleach shortly before.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-03-2020 10:35AM

The cracks are appearing in South Korea's health care system with 1,000s of coronavirus patients now waiting for beds.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKBN20R05M

Edit can't link the story but it's on Reuters

josip · 04-03-2020 10:35AM

Sigma101 wrote: »

The Germany figures are curious. The number of cases has been increasing linearly for the last week or more (but not exponentially) even though there are cases all over the country, evidence of community infections, and an admission by the authorities last week that they can no longer trace cases. I would have expected far more cases by now if it was to follow the pattern in italy.

Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Germany/0/b3e1e3337c63f69eff93bdedbf3e9b950e2a25ef.png

Italy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Italy/0/9e24b4d0185af4801b5a09f3899cb46030fa10a2.png

Perhaps because the Germans are less touchy feely and are more distant than Italians the R0 there is lower?

Drumpot · 04-03-2020 10:35AM

Sigma101 wrote: »

The Germany figures are curious. The number of cases has been increasing linearly for the last week or more (but not exponentially) even though there are cases all over the country, evidence of community infections, and an admission by the authorities last week that they can no longer trace cases. I would have expected far more cases by now if it was to follow the pattern in italy.

Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Germany/0/b3e1e3337c63f69eff93bdedbf3e9b950e2a25ef.png

Italy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/graph/png/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Italy/0/9e24b4d0185af4801b5a09f3899cb46030fa10a2.png

If numbers spike linear, does that not suggest that perhaps their ability to test x amount of people in a given period is probably prohibited? Like if I can only test 1000 people a day, I can never diagnose anymore then 1000 people. If my capacity to test increases as we get more resources to test, my ability to test and diagnose people will still be limited to the increase in testing capacity.

I think these numbers are dangerous to a degree as they are only figures of what we know for sure at any one time. They are always behind the spread so you get situations where “we only have two peopel infected in Ireland” that we all know is very unlikely to be the case.

TomSweeney · 04-03-2020 10:36AM

Have to be very careful with what I read and believe.

"Doctor" (Nurse) John was saying in a video yesterday that at least 60% of the global pop. will be infected within one year.
and overall 1% death rate.

thats 7.5B * 0.6 * 0.01 = 45 Million people die globally , In ireland this will be approx 4.5M * 0.6 * 0.01 = 27,000 deaths!!!

So far there is 3,200 deaths globally - 90% of those in China which was hit worst and is now stabilising - outside Wuhan not much deaths ...
I fail to see where these 44.97 Million deaths are gonna come from, 27K of that in Ireland alone.

HE'S TALKING SHIT!!! He's a scaremonger!!

Tordelback · 04-03-2020 10:40AM

Conservative extrapolation from Johnson's figure of up to 80% infection level in the UK translates to 10.5 million requiring hospitalisation, of which 2.6 million require critical care/ICU. And well over 1 million deaths.

And that assumes an NHS that can cope with an additional 10 million seriously ill people. That seems very unlikely.

Same scenario here would imply around 90,000 deaths, even forgetting that we'd have to find 180,000 ICU beds from somewhere to keep it at that level.

Let's assume he's as utterly clueless as he usually is, and WASH YOUR FECKING HANDS AGAIN.

Loafing Oaf · 04-03-2020 10:41AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

So far there is 3,200 deaths globally - 90% of those in China which was hit worst and is now stabilising - outside Wuhan not much deaths

Huge health warning, as it were, about any figures coming out of China

cherryghost · 04-03-2020 10:42AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

India reports 22 new cases so far today. Looks like the surge in cases may be starting there which is kinda expected

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235116798644756481

Malaysia another country where the figures are increasing again. +14 overnight bringing total to 50.

The British have another two cases this morning in Scotland.

India will spread like Iran, poor health system and infrastructure etc etc

igCorcaigh · 04-03-2020 10:42AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Have to be very careful with what I read and believe.

"Doctor" (Nurse) John was saying in a video yesterday that at least 60% of the global pop. will be infected within one year.
and overall 1% death rate.

thats 7.5B * 0.6 * 0.01 = 45 Million people die globally , In ireland this will be approx 4.5M * 0.6 * 0.01 = 27,000 deaths!!!

So far there is 3,200 deaths globally - 90% of those in China which was hit worst and is now stabilising - outside Wuhan not much deaths ...
I fail to see where these 44.97 Million deaths are gonna come from, 27K of that in Ireland alone.

HE'S TALKING SHIT!!! He's a scaremonger!!

But you can see how he calculated the figures, lots of caveats attached.

laurah591 · 04-03-2020 10:43AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

But you can see how he calculated the figures, lots of caveats attached.

As a matter of interest (haven't watched his video) how did he calculate 60% figure? & dont intend to

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP