Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Blueshoe · 03-03-2020 10:13AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Globally, it's reckoned at between 300,000 to 650,000 deaths and 3-5 million severe cases.

Are African countries affected? I believe Ebola is still a problem in some small pockets there .

Ludo · 03-03-2020 10:14AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

How does a coronavirus cough sound?

It has a distinct Chinese accent.

Ninthlife · 03-03-2020 10:16AM

Ludo wrote: »

It has a distinct Chinese accent.

It just sounds wong

EmmetSpiceland · 03-03-2020 10:16AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Coming up on Newstalk: an "expert in infection control" on why coronavirus should mean "you've nothing to worry about at all"

I'll have to listen to it later as I've a meeting any min but if anyone wants to fill in the context of their analysis, I'd like to hear it.

Virus fatality rate outside of China is very low. Elderly and those with “underlying” illnesses most at risk.

It’s pretty much working just like influenza, outside of China. We will see a rise in flu-like “symptoms” throughout the population but, again, only the elderly and those at risk are in any real “danger”.

Anyone with symptoms should stay out of hospitals and “self-isolate”.

is_that_so · 03-03-2020 10:16AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are African countries affected?

Presumably but appear to affect a different demographic to industrialised countries.

The effects of seasonal influenza epidemics in developing countries are not fully known, but research estimates that 99% of deaths in children under 5 years of age with influenza related lower respiratory tract infections are found in developing countries

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(seasonal)

YFlyer · 03-03-2020 10:18AM

You can't receive the coronavirus from the Body of Christ.

omega man · 03-03-2020 10:19AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

This guest on newstalk is very upbeat - I mean I'd trust her, she has good credentials - but I have heard other very pessimistic epidimelogists (cant be arsed spelling check)_

Was very reassuring to hear such a highly experienced and qualified (in the field) perspective.

thecretinhop · 03-03-2020 10:19AM

pat is excellent on these type of stories, calm measured fact based, compared to the jungle joe liveline show

pc7 · 03-03-2020 10:20AM

Does anyone know (any medics on the thread) if we are using CT scans to confirm for Corona?

gmisk · 03-03-2020 10:20AM

Straffan1979 wrote: »

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) notes from October 2019 through February 22, 2020 there have been 35 million cases of seasonal influenza, with 300,000 hospitalizations, and approximately 30,000 deaths.

That didn't answer my question at all though....lol

The guess work at the minute seems to be roughly 0.1% versus 2% fatalities.
So roughly 20 times more deadly, maybe tell people that as well.

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2020 10:20AM

Accusations of cover up in the US

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1234536619270688768

TheMilkyPirate · 03-03-2020 10:21AM

Craig123 wrote: »

Cool

Dont care if its believed

These were not regular coughs

Keep the it will be gran attitude lads

Not regular coughs haha. It gets better

Blueshoe · 03-03-2020 10:23AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Accusations of cover up in the US

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1234536619270688768

Sure they are doing the same here.
The less they tell you the more obvious it is that they can't control it. Trust government? A death sentence

lainey_d_123 · 03-03-2020 10:23AM

gmisk wrote: »

Would it reduce the numbers of people from flying into Ireland yes.
It would also pretty much stop Irish people or anyone else going back and forth over to Italy.
So stopping flights to and from Italy would help

But it wouldn't. That's the entire point. You're just creating a false sense of security by doing that. Italy has an open land border with other countries. There's no way of knowing if someone flying in from Zurich or Nice or anywhere else has just driven from the north of Italy. Europe isn't like China.

Fia11 · 03-03-2020 10:23AM

pc7 wrote: »

Does anyone know (any medics on the thread) if we are using CT scans to confirm for Corona?

No. Only a viral screen can confirm it - a sample would be taken from the mouth or nose with a swab like a cotton bud.

all about the mane · 03-03-2020 10:23AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Accusations of cover up in the US

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1234536619270688768

Stupid accusations

Wibbs · 03-03-2020 10:24AM

Deleted User wrote: »

A common myth surrounding the flu is that saying "oh you would know if you had the flu, you would be floored".

Yup and a myth regularly repeated any time the subject of flu comes up on Boards.

If one looks at the studies, an average of just 23% exhibit severe symptoms that would leave one sick. Its why it spreads so fast when the majority are up and around (and spreading flu) thinking they 'only' have a common cold.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/03/uk-flu-study-many-are-infected-few-are-sick

I seem to recall something like 20% that have contracted influenza show little or no symptoms at all. Looking back in my life my dad seems to have been one of those. My mum caught whatever flu that was doing the rounds, but the da, nada. I clearly remember him telling the family doctor he'd never had the flu, only head colds. I've only had it a few times and never had the poleaxed need to stay in bed type, save for the Swine flu variety, though that was only for about two to three days.

dan786 · 03-03-2020 10:25AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234770102387605504?s=20

03-03-2020 10:27AM

Article in Guardian about UK supermarkets and their contingency plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/02/uk-supermarkets-braced-for-stockpiling-if-coronavirus-escalates-panic-buying

Good article posted in Journal last night in relation to workers entitlements

https://www.thejournal.ie/workers-rights-coronavirus-5030355-Mar2020/

I wonder if applications for SWA will need to be made in person? Will payments be made directly to bank accounts or need to be collected in post offices? I've already wondered whether illness benefit will require weekly doctor certs?

The HSE brought all the parents of the isolated school together for a meeting last night? Apart from the health risk it doesn't seem like the most efficient use of their time.

I know I could be more positive but I also think we can all be more assertive in voicing our thoughts on making contingency plans.

The country is also reliant on more than the HSE to get through a worse case scenario of the virus here: ESB, Food Suppliers, Farmers, Factories, Pharmacies, the list goes on. Planning isn't panicking. Working from home is only a plan for the non-essentials.

YFlyer · 03-03-2020 10:27AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Hand sanitizer doesn't kill all viruses. It's bacteria that you are confused with. Why keep washing your hands while people are flying around the world spreading the virus. Unless airports and points of entry are closed its pointless.

Soap and water is meant to kill viruses.

03-03-2020 10:28AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Yup and a myth regularly repeated any time the subject of flu comes up on Boards. I seem to recall something like 20% that have contracted influenza show little or no symptoms at all. Looking back in my life my dad seems to have been one of those. My mum caught whatever flu that was doing the rounds, but the da, nada. I clearly remember him telling the family doctor he'd never had the flu, only head colds. I've only had it a few times and never had the poleaxed need to stay in bed type, save for the Swine flu variety, though that was only for about two to three days.

Indeed. Point 5 of this flu myths piece from Harvard Medical School. Up to 30% exhibit no symptoms but still spread flu.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths

If Coronavirus behaves similarly, I can't see it being stopped from spreading widely.

gmisk · 03-03-2020 10:31AM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

But it wouldn't. That's the entire point. You're just creating a false sense of security by doing that. Italy has an open land border with other countries. There's no way of knowing if someone flying in from Zurich or Nice or anywhere else has just driven from the north of Italy. Europe isn't like China.

I'm sorry but it would reduce numbers catching it here.
You can't see how having people hundreds a week flying from Ireland to Italy (a place with thousands of confirmed cases) and vice versa will lead to likelihood of more cases here?
I am well aware it won't stop people traveling outside of Italy then flying to Ireland but this would be a small fraction let's be honest.

Irish Stones · 03-03-2020 10:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Northern Italy is feckin freezing in a damp miserable way this time of year. The plains of Lombardy make Ireland look tropical

No freezing temperatures this year in Northern Italy, we had an average temperature of 10°C all winter long, it was +21°C on last Monday. It hasn't been raining for longer than two months in Northern Italy, no damp for sure.

Not talking about Lombardy, but Piedmont, about 100 km west.

tuxy · 03-03-2020 10:31AM

YFlyer wrote: »

Soap and water is meant to kill viruses.

Yes hand sanitizer is only the better option when you are out and about with no access t hot water.

Blueshoe · 03-03-2020 10:31AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Yup and a myth regularly repeated any time the subject of flu comes up on Boards. I seem to recall something like 20% that have contracted influenza show little or no symptoms at all. Looking back in my life my dad seems to have been one of those. My mum caught whatever flu that was doing the rounds, but the da, nada. I clearly remember him telling the family doctor he'd never had the flu, only head colds. I've only had it a few times and never had the poleaxed need to stay in bed type, save for the Swine flu variety, though that was only for about two to three days.

Maybe your dad is just a hardy hoor. Old stock but good stock type.

Compare that with some of the individuals tipping around nowadays. Corona virus will probably be more evident in less hardy countries or states. Look at California for example. Too soft.
Wouldn't see that in Poland or the Ukraine.

The Chinese got a handle on things by locking everyone down. In Europe it's well you can self isolate if you like. We don't mind. Don't want to be a fascist to your feelings.

Know what I mean?
Governments need to be forceful and people less soft.

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2020 10:32AM

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1234772870019960833

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2020 10:34AM

dan786 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234770102387605504?s=20

Ukraine one point, Ukraine un point

ThePopehimself · 03-03-2020 10:35AM

is_that_so wrote: »

The Pope is clear!

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0303/1119843-pope-francis/

Woohoo!

Hector Savage · 03-03-2020 10:37AM

This is like that scene in The Dark Knight - on the boats ... just waiting for midnight ... hoping no one on the other boat flicks the switch..

Martina1991 · 03-03-2020 10:37AM

pc7 wrote: »

Does anyone know (any medics on the thread) if we are using CT scans to confirm for Corona?

I don't know, but I would say that young lad from Glasnevin would have had one to check for any lung damage.

Whether we can perform CT scans on all infected patients would depend on where they are hospitalised and sufficient staff to perform them around the clock.

Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP