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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #2462
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You can maybe understand the HSE trying to protect the identity of the young guy. He's the first (confirmed) case in the country and if his identity was revealed you don't know how he'd be targeted on social media. Sad reality.

    If it's true that his siblings are in school in D15 it's a possibility that he was getting the commuter train to his school in the mornings (Maynooth line) (lots of Scoil Caitriona students on this commute) another reason HSE might be withholding information. Ive been more intimate with people on those trains than I am with members of my family.
    this has already happened, sorry I'm its mentioned on later pages, the speed of posting is faster than I can read. My 16 year old showed me a picture of the lad who has now deleted his Instagram and about 5 of his friends have done the same.
    It's a crazy unstoppable web:(. He was football training with my sons friends a couple of days ago exchanging sweat etc. Scary stuff alot of these kids smoke weed and share around splifs they probably all have it.


  • #2463
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I was in Aldi, Dublin Road, Limerick. At the pasta section there was only the long stick spaghetti type.

    Maybe Sunday night is not a good barometer to determine panic buying.
    Probably all the locals of Italian extraction staying home.....


  • #2464
    je551e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭je551e


    Not sure anyone can answer but just trying to gauge how contagious this is, like if you’re in a room with An infected person do you get it or if you wash you hands and don’t touch your face will you be ok?


  • #2465
    Michelinextra.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Michelinextra.


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Americans :D

    https://twitter.com/v_shakthi/status/1234244623066779648

    In the US a little old lady just got crushed to death running up an escalator with a large flatscreen tv

    Crowd was coming the opposite way down


  • #2466
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yup anything else would leave them open to a class action lawsuit.
    Human testing for most drugs would be close to 12 months.

    Swine flu vaccine was brought out fast tracked in 6 months.


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  • #2467
    drkpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    JJJackal wrote: »
    How many people have fevers and travel and dont have COVID!?!

    Checking temp will give a high false positive rate and also probably miss most of those infected

    Hundreds of thousands.

    What would you do with all of them?


  • #2468
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    If you trust the HSE that's an issue you are going to have to deal with


    i live in the real world

    Okay, what is your solution to all this?


  • #2469
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Michelinextra. wrote: »
    In the US a little old lady just got crushed to death running up an escalator with a large flatscreen tv

    Crowd was coming the opposite way down

    Do we blame the Virus here or what?:confused:


  • #2470
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    This. We already have hundreds of thousands if not millions of rogue disease spreaders in this country. To confirm, just observe any public space and how many cough and sneeze without any effort to cover it, or any public toilet and how many either do not wash their hands at all or make a half-arsed effort.

    Tbf to the people who go to work when sick, the dollar-is-god society we have built where ministers speak of "citizens of this economy" does not exactly encourage responsible behaviour.

    People are selfish and / or far too important in their own eyes. Most wont admit it, but there is a lot of wilful blindness goes on when they go around the place coughing and sweating all over gym gear or fellow commuters for example. God forbid their lives be interrupted. Then they spread it to someone who’s going home to an elderly relative and...


  • #2471
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Once Mary Lou addresses the nation everything will be okay


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  • #2472
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    je551e wrote: »
    Not sure anyone can answer but just trying to gauge how contagious this is, like if you’re in a room with An infected person do you get it or if you wash you hands and don’t touch your face will you be ok?

    More important that you stay a minimum of two metres away. Plus wash your hands thoroughly before touching your face, food etc.


  • #2473
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Reading this thread, I feel like I'm in a minority who's not freaking out about this.

    We have a single confirmed case (2 if you count NI). It was inevitable. Given that we have so many multinationals and so much international travel in and out of the place, we were never going to escape it.

    But, for all the issues with the health services in the country, they've identified the source and gotten word out. I actually wasn't aware of the name of the school but a 20 second search of trending items on twitter returned that and the letter that was sent. Personally I understand the decision not to name the school in mainstream media - look at the increasing hysteria in this thread alone! Now imagine the witch hunt that will ensue trying to name the student now that it's out there.

    Unfortunately those of us who are just keeping abreast of the headlines and not doing anything silly like flying to a hot zone will soon be impacted as the government and employers are forced to overreact. This in turn will make the situation worse as things like panic buying empties shops (insert pic of empty bread shelves here)

    Relax people. Yes it's a serious thing, and yes people should be aware and not take unnecessary risks, but be proportionate in your response vs the current situation until there's a actual reason to change that.


  • #2474
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Swine flu vaccine was brought out fast tracked in 6 months.

    There are different rules for vaccines compared to drug treatments.


  • #2475
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Enter name here wrote: »
    Yes a drug has already been developed and is currently working in clinical trials.

    Gilead Sciences drug remdesivir is currently in human trials in Wuhan.

    Its in clinical trials. A bit to go yet then. (That was my point)


  • #2476
    amber69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭amber69


    gmisk wrote: »
    It is bizarre...but that isn't in ireland at least!

    Left hand drive trolley


  • #2477
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Oh ffs. Luke honest do you have medical training ? I ask because you at times sound the lad in the pub who can solve all the countries ills which is easy to say but not to actually do.

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:
    Oh stop. Too funny.


  • #2478
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    je551e wrote: »
    Not sure anyone can answer but just trying to gauge how contagious this is, like if you’re in a room with An infected person do you get it or if you wash you hands and don’t touch your face will you be ok?

    It seems close proximity, body contact, sharing food/utensils/items like books, spreads it extremely effectively, churches, buffets/restaurants and places where people are in close contact like ships/prisons/families at home/small workplace businesses, seem to be the main points of emergence of clusters

    Incidental exposure between completely strangers and picking up from surfaces seems less common, otherwise I think there would be even more cases


  • #2479
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Reading this thread, I feel like I'm in a minority who's not freaking out about this.

    You may be in a minority on here but not in the real world.


  • #2480
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Swine flu vaccine was brought out fast tracked in 6 months.

    And the number of lives that vaccine destroyed was awful.


  • #2481
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    amber69 wrote: »
    Left hand drive trolley
    I was thinking more the non English language signage....but sure


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  • #2482
    Enter name here
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Its in clinical trials. A bit to go yet then. (That was my point)

    They are already at Phase 3 wont be long til it's rushed through


  • #2483
    Kerry25x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Kerry25x


    je551e wrote: »
    Not sure anyone can answer but just trying to gauge how contagious this is, like if you’re in a room with An infected person do you get it or if you wash you hands and don’t touch your face will you be ok?

    It's spread by droplets in the air so you have a good chance of breathing it if you're in the same room. Washing your hands will help though.


  • #2484
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Conrad Modern Drummer wrote: »
    In fairness the HSE seem pretty confident that the chances of more cases is low, maybe they got to the infected case quickly.

    Post of the day.


  • #2485
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Enter name here wrote: »
    They are already at Phase 3 wont be long til it's rushed through

    That is not a proper clinical trial then. God knows what would happen to people who get it.

    Edit: Their website says they will begin the phase 3 trial in March. That makes more sense.


  • #2486
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    wakka12 wrote: »
    The growth in Italian cases is extremely similar to Hubei.
    In Hubei cases went from a few dozen which stayed around that number for several days and then grew rapidly from 17th January for seven days to reach 1200 cases on the 24th of January. And then of course continued to grow even more quickly thereafter, increasing by several thousand daily from then on . That was whath happened despite massive containment efforts whcih of course are non-existent in Italy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak

    Could be seeing extremely fast growth across continental Europe in the next few days, France Spain and Germany have also all already passed beyond the point at which growth massively accelerated expoenentially in Chinese cities

    It doesn't bear thinking about.


  • #2487
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Reading this thread, I feel like I'm in a minority who's not freaking out about this.

    We have a single confirmed case (2 if you count NI). It was inevitable. Given that we have so many multinationals and so much international travel in and out of the place, we were never going to escape it.

    But, for all the issues with the health services in the country, they've identified the source and gotten word out. I actually wasn't aware of the name of the school but a 20 second search of trending items on twitter returned that and the letter that was sent. Personally I understand the decision not to name the school in mainstream media - look at the increasing hysteria in this thread alone! Now imagine the witch hunt that will ensue trying to name the student now that it's out there.

    Unfortunately those of us who are just keeping abreast of the headlines and not doing anything silly like flying to a hot zone will soon be impacted as the government and employers are forced to overreact. This in turn will make the situation worse as things like panic buying empties shops (insert pic of empty bread shelves here)

    Relax people. Yes it's a serious thing, and yes people should be aware and not take unnecessary risks, but be proportionate in your response vs the current situation until there's a actual reason to change that.

    This was the argument being used when it was big in China but nowhere else and cases in other countries were isolated and people who had travelled from China.

    Today we have several advanced countries like South Korea, Italy and Germany where the spread is taking off in similar fashions. We have no reason to believe that the spread will not occur this way in Ireland. And we have examples from China and Iran about the scale of what occurs if you do not address the situation early and robustly. So I would say people are very justified to take this seriously and we should be implementing significant efforts per some of the research linked earlier in the thread, which shows that you can stem it if you act fast and act big.


  • #2488
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    all about the mane wrote: »
    You may be in a minority on here but not in the real world.
    The best way to prevent the most common effects of the virus is to stay off social media.


  • #2489
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    je551e wrote: »
    Not sure anyone can answer but just trying to gauge how contagious this is, like if you’re in a room with An infected person do you get it or if you wash you hands and don’t touch your face will you be ok?

    Unless you are unlucky enough for the person to cough or sneeze into your face you should be ok. Or anywhere you that you then touch and bring to your face.
    Virus is meant to live for days on fabrics so you have to keep washing your hands, not touching your face etc. And wash clothes at 60 degrees at least.
    That's why people with symptoms should self isolate.


  • #2490
    tails_naf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭tails_naf


    Saganist wrote: »
    So I'm a parent of a student in the effected school. HSE are saying just my son needs to be restricted etc.. What do i do ? Continue on as normal in the office tomorrow ?

    This. Clear guidelines should be given. I'd say you should not go to work, as there's no way to know if it's spread to the school. Being cautious is key to containment


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  • #2491
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Reading this thread, I feel like I'm in a minority who's not freaking out about this.

    We have a single confirmed case (2 if you count NI). It was inevitable. Given that we have so many multinationals and so much international travel in and out of the place, we were never going to escape it.

    But, for all the issues with the health services in the country, they've identified the source and gotten word out. I actually wasn't aware of the name of the school but a 20 second search of trending items on twitter returned that and the letter that was sent. Personally I understand the decision not to name the school in mainstream media - look at the increasing hysteria in this thread alone! Now imagine the witch hunt that will ensue trying to name the student now that it's out there.

    Unfortunately those of us who are just keeping abreast of the headlines and not doing anything silly like flying to a hot zone will soon be impacted as the government and employers are forced to overreact. This in turn will make the situation worse as things like panic buying empties shops (insert pic of empty bread shelves here)

    Relax people. Yes it's a serious thing, and yes people should be aware and not take unnecessary risks, but be proportionate in your response vs the current situation until there's a actual reason to change that.

    I'm not freaking out. I haven't bought extra groceries. I will go to work tomorrow as normal and evening college classes during the week. The current advice is to go about your life as normal.

    That doesn't mean one can't recognise that it's a serious situation that has a very strong potential to overwhelm our health services and cause major economic hardship for a lot of people.

    Not to mention the actual personal impact on those infected and their families/friends/colleagues.


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