Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

quokula

gmisk wrote: »

So if it will reduce the numbers why not do it?
We are going to get more cases if we can reduce this and slow things down it would make sense.

American and Delta have announced they are stopping flights to and from Milan today.
Other countries e.g. Israel are banning entry to anyone has even visited Italy in the last 14 days.
I am not saying we need to go to that extreme but if we can reduce the number of cases we should try and do something.

If we’d banned cars the 7 people who died on our roads in the last few days would still be alive. There’s always going to be a balance of risk in all things and as far as I can tell there has been no advice from medical professionals who know what they’re talking about anywhere in the world recommending that level of shutdown in countries like Ireland where the threat is still minimal.

I’d rather Ireland not be more like Armenia or Russia or Morocco - most of the countries people are praising for taking extreme measures do not have a particularly great record in health care as seen by their lower life expectancy.

Goldengirl

je551e wrote: »

Ok thanks what viruses were/are airborne?

If the droplet the person sneezes or coughs which contains the virus lands on you or your clothes or surfaces you touch
as said before, you can be infected by bringing the virus to your nose or mouth.
It will not stay in the air ready to float in when you breath, that's the difference.

Spanish Eyes

noodler wrote: »

If it's been linked in the preceding pages then I apologise but could someone link again?

I thought the school were keeping quiet and the even the media hadn't been officially told (publication of the HSE circular on social media aside) about the fact if was SC.

You might have to go back through the thread but it was a parent of a child in the school who posted saying the kid was on hols with his family, AFAIR.

D5 something was the parent posting who filled us in with the name of the school in the first place.

Goldengirl

skimpydoo wrote: »

The School has already been named by the Political editor of the Examiner and 2 local TD's.

Yes. As I said...

wakka12

expectationlost wrote: »

whne did the italian situation become a thing?

Very recently. Italy had 3 cases about a week ago

Snow Garden

Snow Garden wrote: »

Just back from a major stockpiling offensive in SuperValu/Dunnes/Tesco and Aldi around Galway. It was beyond emotional.

Very early on I came across an Oriental looking woman and just lost the plot. She could have been Taiwanese, Filipino or Polynesian, hard to say. Anyway I was an inch from her face screaming and spitting about horseshoe bats, border control and supply chain management in a globalised economy when she...she sneezed on me. I ran away scratching my eyes and cursing Jackie Chan.

I spotted a tanned Italian-looking gentleman eyeing up the last of the 3-pack tinned tomatoes. I kneed him hard in the groin and hurled abuse at him while referencing Commodus, Nero, Caligula, Tomba, Sergio Parisse and the perils of Italian Apres-ski. To my astonishment he started pleading to me as Gaeilge. Couldn't understand a word of it so I grabbed the tinned tomatoes and scurried along. Suffice to say, those Connemara women were doing way too much riding with those Spanish Armada sailors!

I knocked over a load of bottles of olive oil and some lad told me to calm down. The red mist descended again and I screamed "Professor BanditLuke of After Hours University said this is fcuking serious....calm isn't an option anymore! You should see his post count!". I stole some hand sanitizer from someone's trolley in Aldi and rushed to the checkouts. They closed Aisle 3 as I joined the queues. Naturally I screamed "45,000,000 people are going to fcuking die you German clowns!! Keep Aisle 3 open!!". When I was packing my provisions, someone on Aisle 1 muttered "it will be just like a bad flu season". He promptly got 3 cans of chopped tomatoes to the chest!! I may live to regret that generosity.

Home now and I am not leaving the house until September. I need to take off this wetsuit and snorkel and have a little cry. How can this happen so soon after the lions mane jellyfish saga!!??

BTW, they are all out of spelt bread. Bastards.

This is probably the greatest post since Trent in creative writing.

gabeeg

quokula wrote: »

If we’d banned cars the 7 people who died on our roads in the last few days would still be alive. There’s always going to be a balance of risk in all things and as far as I can tell there has been no advice from medical professionals who know what they’re talking about anywhere in the world recommending that level of shutdown in countries like Ireland where the threat is still minimal.

I’d rather Ireland not be more like Armenia or Russia or Morocco - most of the countries people are praising for taking extreme measures do not have a particularly great record in health care as seen by their lower life expectancy.

Or Japan, or Italy

SafeSurfer

Asian markets opening in a couple of hours. Will it set the trend for another week of massive losses on international stock markets?
It’s very likely that we will see further huge losses. Italy injecting €3.6 billion stimulus package to save their tourism industry.
The week ahead will see the US becoming the country with the largest increase in infections.
Other countries are simply not capable of reporting, or are actively covering up the scale of infections. India, Thailand etc.

Why has Italy become such a hotbed of infection?

YFlyer

Michelinextra. wrote: »

Did they have much chocolate ice-cream?

Didn't check. The wine section was well stocked though.

CinemaGuy45

Snow Garden wrote: »

Just back from a major stockpiling offensive in SuperValu/Dunnes/Tesco and Aldi around Galway. It was beyond emotional.

Very early on I came across an Oriental looking woman and just lost the plot. She could have been Taiwanese, Filipino or Polynesian, hard to say. Anyway I was an inch from her face screaming and spitting about horseshoe bats, border control and supply chain management in a globalised economy when she...she sneezed on me. I ran away scratching my eyes and cursing Jackie Chan.

I spotted a tanned Italian-looking gentleman eyeing up the last of the 3-pack tinned tomatoes. I kneed him hard in the groin and hurled abuse at him while referencing Commodus, Nero, Caligula, Tomba, Sergio Parisse and the perils of Italian Apres-ski. To my astonishment he started pleading to me as Gaeilge. Couldn't understand a word of it so I grabbed the tinned tomatoes and scurried along. Suffice to say, those Connemara women were doing way too much riding with those Spanish Armada sailors!

I knocked over a load of bottles of olive oil and some lad told me to calm down. The red mist descended again and I screamed "Professor BanditLuke of After Hours University said this is fcuking serious....calm isn't an option anymore! You should see his post count!". I stole some hand sanitizer from someone's trolley in Aldi and rushed to the checkouts. They closed Aisle 3 as I joined the queues. Naturally I screamed "45,000,000 people are going to fcuking die you German clowns!! Keep Aisle 3 open!!". When I was packing my provisions, someone on Aisle 1 muttered "it will be just like a bad flu season". He promptly got 3 cans of chopped tomatoes to the chest!! I may live to regret that generosity.

Home now and I am not leaving the house until September. I need to take off this wetsuit and snorkel and have a little cry. How can this happen so soon after the lions mane jellyfish saga!!??

BTW, they are all out of spelt bread. Bastards.

Calling bull on this post whatever about the rest of the post you really called you credibility into question with the hand sanitiser a bottle of that has not been seen in a month.:rolleyes:

Ficheall

Deleted User wrote: »

This is probably the greatest post since Trent in creative writing.

Jesus. Wouldn't even mention them in the same sentence.

KWAG2019

Snow Garden wrote: »

Just back from a major stockpiling offensive in SuperValu/Dunnes/Tesco and Aldi around Galway. It was beyond emotional.

Very early on I came across an Oriental looking woman and just lost the plot. She could have been Taiwanese, Filipino or Polynesian, hard to say. Anyway I was an inch from her face screaming and spitting about horseshoe bats, border control and supply chain management in a globalised economy when she...she sneezed on me. I ran away scratching my eyes and cursing Jackie Chan.

I spotted a tanned Italian-looking gentleman eyeing up the last of the 3-pack tinned tomatoes. I kneed him hard in the groin and hurled abuse at him while referencing Commodus, Nero, Caligula, Tomba, Sergio Parisse and the perils of Italian Apres-ski. To my astonishment he started pleading to me as Gaeilge. Couldn't understand a word of it so I grabbed the tinned tomatoes and scurried along. Suffice to say, those Connemara women were doing way too much riding with those Spanish Armada sailors!

I knocked over a load of bottles of olive oil and some lad told me to calm down. The red mist descended again and I screamed "Professor BanditLuke of After Hours University said this is fcuking serious....calm isn't an option anymore! You should see his post count!". I stole some hand sanitizer from someone's trolley in Aldi and rushed to the checkouts. They closed Aisle 3 as I joined the queues. Naturally I screamed "45,000,000 people are going to fcuking die you German clowns!! Keep Aisle 3 open!!". When I was packing my provisions, someone on Aisle 1 muttered "it will be just like a bad flu season". He promptly got 3 cans of chopped tomatoes to the chest!! I may live to regret that generosity.

Home now and I am not leaving the house until September. I need to take off this wetsuit and snorkel and have a little cry. How can this happen so soon after the lions mane jellyfish saga!!??

BTW, they are all out of spelt bread. Bastards.

You’re trying way too hard. At least I’ve another name for my block list.

YFlyer

Beasty wrote: »

Probably all the locals of Italian extraction staying home.....

Would Italians buy pasta that is sold in supermarkets in Ireland? A fickle bunch.

IconAssassin

Definition of airborne virus : An airborne disease is any disease that is caused by pathogens that can be transmitted through the air by both small, dry particles, and as larger liquid droplets. Such diseases include many of considerable importance both in human and veterinary medicine.

Extract from ECDC TECHNICAL REPORT :

Infection prevention and control for the care of
patients with 2019-nCoV in healthcare settings

Coronaviruses are believed to be transmitted in most instances from person to person through inhalation or deposition on mucosal surfaces of large respiratory droplets. Other routes have also been implicated in the transmission of coronaviruses, such as contact with contaminated fomites and inhalation of aerosols, produced during aerosol generating procedures.
The highest risk of healthcare-associated transmission is in the absence of
standard precautions, when basic infection prevention and control measures for respiratory infections are not in place, and when handling patients where 2009-
nCoV infection is yet to be confirmed. Although there is so far no
evidence of airborne transmission, we recommend a cautious approach due to lack of studies excluding this mode of transmission[1]

Please note first and last line of the extract.

If you are in close contact water droplets containing virus may be passed from person to person(does this constitute airborne???)

ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/nove-coronavirus-infection-prevention-control-patients-healthcare-settings.pdf
.

bodhrandude

Mods could you tell people slow down with their posts, every time I jump two pages another two pages appear at the end.

noodler

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

It was the folks that took the kid away the school threw them under the bus in a statement.

Where is this statement?

Sorry , all I can see in thre thread is people referring to it

Atlantic Dawn

So should the windows be open or closed on public transport to restrict is spreading? Me thinks open them so you are not incubating the virus.

grindle

bodhrandude wrote: »

Mods could you tell people slow down with their posts, every time I jump two pages another two pages appear at the end.

The virus will slow things down eventually.

CinemaGuy45

noodler wrote: »

Where is this statement?

Sorry , all I can see in thre thread is people referring to it

I mean this is the nicest possible way it is on the thread somewhere but look at the number of posts I don't have a spare 40 mins to look for it.:D

the butcher

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martingriff

gmisk wrote: »

How so?
The case in the north...someone who flew back from Italy via Dublin.
The case in the south, the guy was on holiday in Italy and flew back.
What am I missing?
Without those two people flying back from northern Italy we would have zero cases here.

Well that's not true how about if someone was in Italy but got a ride to somewhere else on the continent and flew from there or they originally came from another country with the virus and flew from somewhere else. Unless you completely lock down the country nothing in or out, that includes Northern Ireland they we would get a case by probability

Nijmegen

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So should the windows be open or closed on public transport to restrict is spreading? Me thinks open them so you are not incubating the virus.

That is not really how it works. Someone sneezes on a surface, you put your hand to it as you pass - say a railing on the bus - and later touch your face. That’s probably your most common infection route.

martingriff

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

All Italy flights in should be banned

Has China flights already been banned?

Surely airport restrictions has to come in to place soon

How about someone who was in Italy but flew from say a neighboring country

bodhrandude

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

The amount of contamination from Northern Italy really is extraordinary!!
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the virus is rampant there and much bigger than authorities are saying...

Can they not get the Mafia to scare it away, intimidate it.

Nijmegen

martingriff wrote: »

How about someone who was in Italy but flew from say a neighboring country

When this took off in China, a number of countries barred anyone who had been in China in the previous 14 days and mandated their own returning citizens go into isolation for 14 days. This has been expanded now to a number of other countries like Iran.

noodler

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I mean this is the nicest possible way it is on the thread somewhere but look at the number of posts I don't have a spare 40 mins to look for it.:D

I've got a relative on the adjoining primary school. SM

I'm obviously very interested to be able to know if there is an official statement or was it just a post by someone.

If anyone even remembers the poster then I could look that way please

CinemaGuy45

bodhrandude wrote: »

Can they not get the Mafia to scare it away, intimidate it.

Yes I am shocked Italy can not give this thing the boot.

Xertz

The HSE really needs to get to grips with the communication. They’ve managed to cause a backlash on Twitter by basically hiding information, for absolutely no reason. It’s non confidential information that everyone knows, or can get within 30 seconds anyway.

By all means protect individual patients’ identities but coming out with paternalistic “we know best” type messages is only going to serve to make them less credible as a source of information and feed conspiracy theorists.

Please get someone to coordinate communication who knows what they are doing and how to keep things clear and open in a crisis. If you have to pull someone in from another public body or department, or even get in a communication expert, please do it!

There’s absolutely no need to protect things that aren’t protectable and please try to avoid looking like the x-files.

Lose the unfriendly looking, minimalist, sci-fi backdrop and speak from a normal looking briefing room.

Be open. Don’t use jargon. Don’t patronise. We need clear facts and hard science. If it’s not coming from official sources, it will come from all sorts of sources online - some of which may be accurate and others may be nonsense.

martingriff

gmisk wrote: »

They might have who knows.
Hundreds of people still coming in and out from and to northern Italy every day seems like a great idea doesn't it?

So unless you ban all flight/ships that means people can come from anywhere that is the point

CinemaGuy45

noodler wrote: »

I've got a relative on the adjoining primary school. SM

I'm obviously very interested to be able to know if there is an official statement or was it just a post by someone.

If anyone even remembers the poster then I could look that way please

There was an official statement I seen it I can not remember how far back it was this is one of the fastest moving threads I have ever seen.