Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

gabeeg

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

A family holiday, are they all in isolation, lock down?

I shouldn't have said family holiday. All I know is that it was a holiday.

But he is a kid. God love him

drkpower

tuxy wrote: »

Checks on body temperature.
Usless for people who have it and are asymptomatic of course.

When does body temperature start to rise with covid?
In how many patients with covid does temperature go up?
What do you do with those who have no temperature rise?

These are questions that public health professionals have to work through.

JJJackal

drkpower wrote: »

When does body temperature start to rise with covid?
In how many patients with covid does temperature go up?
What do you do with those who have no temperature rise?

These are questions that public health professionals have to work through.

How many people have fevers and travel and dont have COVID!?!

Checking temp will give a high false positive rate and also probably miss most of those infected

DrumSteve

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Mojahedineng/status/1234236569713664000

Were these not the same lads saying 500 odd died the other day?

joe40

drkpower wrote: »

When does body temperature start to rise with covid?
In how many patients with covid does temperature go up?
What do you do with those who have no temperature rise?

These are questions that public health professionals have to work through.

And not forgetting people that took paracetamol, so their temp is not up.
Temp screening would be useless

Carol25

jackboy wrote: »

A pharma company can’t just start producing a drug. It would need to be set up and registered to produce the drug. Quality of the product and safety of the plant would need to be assured. At best this would take months.

I know that but what about in a emergency? Is there an international law against Ireland doing this or just Irish legislation? China passed some laws to this effect which allowed them to produce generic versions of an anti viral drug.

Nijmegen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Rogue would mean they are deliberately spreading the virus. Is that what you are insinuating?

Plenty of people when sick go to work, go to the gym, etc.

DrumSteve

gabeeg wrote: »

I shouldn't have said family holiday. All I know is that it was a holiday.

But he is a kid. God love him

He's gonna need some amount of counselling when this is over.

Itssoeasy

BanditLuke wrote: »

If the HSE told me it was Sunday i'd check the calendar, twice.

Oh ffs. Luke honest do you have medical training ? I ask because you at times sound the lad in the pub who can solve all the countries ills which is easy to say but not to actually do.

Charles Babbage

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

A family holiday, are they all in isolation, lock down?

One would expect them all to be in self isolation. Experience in Asia shows that most transmission is in families.

At this stage they have probably already been isolated for several days.

all about the mane

Carol25 wrote: »

Would the presence of medial device companies or multinational drug companies here help us at all during this outbreak. For instance, would any of them be able to produce a generic version of say an anti viral drug that may turn out fo be effective against the virus. Or could they provide us with more assisted breathing equipment or oxygen?
Ireland needs to try and come up with a cohesive response using all possible resources on this island it can. Feel sorry for the HSE trio at the press conference this evening, I’m sure this is a worrying situation for them. Also Leo or other party leaders should appear and just try and calm the nerves...
Finally i noticed at the media briefing on the 9 o’clock news people were all sitting one seat apart and rows were quite spread out.

Has such a drug been developed?

tuxy

Carol25 wrote: »

I know that but what about in a emergency? Is there an international law against Ireland doing this or just Irish legislation? China passed some laws to this effect which allowed them to produce generic versions of an anti viral drug.

China ignores the right to intelectual property frequently.

Ireland does not as we always want to keep large western companies happy.

DrumSteve

Carol25 wrote: »

I know that but what about in a emergency? Is there an international law against Ireland doing this or just Irish legislation? China passed some laws to this effect which allowed them to produce generic versions of an anti viral drug.

There is one on trial at the moment that seems to be working, called Remdesevir. Think that's the one they approved.

wakka12

DrumSteve wrote: »

Were these not the same lads saying 500 odd died the other day?

Well seeing as BBC confirmed deaths in Iran are at least 210 a few days ago it it does not look too unlikely at all
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51673053

BanditLuke

Americans

https://twitter.com/v_shakthi/status/1234244623066779648

gmisk

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Oh ffs. Luke honest do you have medical training ? I ask because you at times sound the lad in the pub who can solve all the countries ills which is easy to say but not to actually do.

So pretty much every taxi driver in Ireland?

drunkmonkey

Goldengirl

tillyfilly wrote: »

I feel like I'm coming down with Corona from reading this thread, totally Corona'd

Suck a lemon

BanditLuke

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Oh ffs. Luke honest do you have medical training ? I ask because you at times sound the lad in the pub who can solve all the countries ills which is easy to say but not to actually do.

If you trust the HSE that's an issue you are going to have to deal with


i live in the real world

Larbre34

tuxy wrote: »

China ignores the right to intelectual property frequently.

Ireland does not as we always want to keep large western companies happy.

The EU is the competent authority in that case, it wouldn't be an Irish decision to make.

ChikiChiki

bennyineire wrote: »

Current betting Odds are 2/1 to be cancelled and 1/2 to go ahead.
Not sure what your understanding of betting but it's far from a long shot in the bookies eyes

I'd take that 2/1. Tbh I feel like some of the posters on this thread are way ahead in their knowledge of the virus and its spread patterns many major organisations state and private.

Spanish Eyes

Back to reality, I'd say there are many families with kids in that school wondering what to do now.

You know, should I go to work, should I stay at home and quarantine with the whole family. Ugh, I would be pacing the floor.

But I think I would stay home myself. I suppose that's OK if you are paid when out though. Awful dilemma and not much information coming out about such circumstances either is there?

Cilldara_2000

Nijmegen wrote: »

Plenty of people when sick go to work, go to the gym, etc.

This. We already have hundreds of thousands if not millions of rogue disease spreaders in this country. To confirm, just observe any public space and how many cough and sneeze without any effort to cover it, or any public toilet and how many either do not wash their hands at all or make a half-arsed effort.

Tbf to the people who go to work when sick, the dollar-is-god society we have built where ministers speak of "citizens of this economy" does not exactly encourage responsible behaviour.

gmisk

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It is bizarre...but that isn't in ireland at least!

Nijmegen

BanditLuke wrote: »

Americans

https://twitter.com/v_shakthi/status/1234244623066779648

Let’s dig back to thread number one and those scoffing at people adding a little to their shop. As those of us “nuts” said at the time, when it goes, it goes quickly and all of a sudden you’re in a big long queue with the outbreak spreading. Good luck folks.

Enter name here

all about the mane wrote: »

Has such a drug been developed?

Yes a drug has already been developed and is currently working in clinical trials.

Gilead Sciences drug remdesivir is currently in human trials in Wuhan.

drkpower

gmisk wrote: »

Possibly but it would definitely reduce the numbers.

What is your solution then? I think mine could work on seriously reducing the number of infected people coming into ireland.
Tell all

Sure it would reduce the numbers but the reality is you can’t stop it.

I think the public health experts who deal with the spread of infectious disease every day, on all of our behalf’s, are managing it 100pc correctly; banning flights from one current hotspot is just a plaster on a gushing wound. Resources are better spent on contact tracing and close management of those. Next week there will be another hotspot, and then another; the implication of your approach will rapidly be a complete travel ban; of course that is a theoretical approach but the psychological and economic effect is potentially very significant without any reasonable prospect of stopping the spread to Ireland.
As it happens, it is patently clear that a northern Italy travel ban would not have prevented either car in the island of Ireland from happening

jackboy

Carol25 wrote: »

I know that but what about in a emergency? Is there an international law against Ireland doing this or just Irish legislation? China passed some laws to this effect which allowed them to produce generic versions of an anti viral drug.

The regulatory bodies would pull the licenses and shut the plant down. No short cuts allowed I’m afraid. China is essentially the Wild West.

Phoebas

gmisk wrote: »

It is bizarre...but that isn't in ireland at least!

It's a joke!

lainey_d_123

MarkY91 wrote: »

Why bother with it in the first place if they don't pay out for anything

Because if you get seriously injured or die abroad you or your family could be landed with a bill in the hundreds of thousands to fly you home. It rarely pays out in situations like this one.