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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #2342
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    drkpower wrote: »
    Had such a ban been instituted, might the Irish people who returned from northern Italy have gotten a flight home from elsewhere?

    Ye your right just ignore that's where its coming from, Probably the best way forward,
    You'd defo get a job in the HSE


  • #2343
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    gmisk wrote: »
    How so?
    The case in the north...someone who flew back from Italy via Dublin.
    The case in the south, the guy was on holiday in Italy and flew back.
    What am I missing?
    Without those two people flying back from northern Italy we would have zero cases here.

    You simply cannot say this. Please tell me you understand that.


  • #2344
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    You can maybe understand the HSE trying to protect the identity of the young guy. He's the first (confirmed) case in the country and if his identity was revealed you don't know how he'd be targeted on social media. Sad reality.

    If it's true that his siblings are in school in D15 it's a possibility that he was getting the commuter train to his school in the mornings (Maynooth line) (lots of Scoil Caitriona students on this commute) another reason HSE might be withholding information. Ive been more intimate with people on those trains than I am with members of my family.


  • #2345
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Alex86Eire wrote: »
    Do we know if the guy with the virus was skiing? And did anyone publish a more specific location than Northern Italy?

    Nah think he was hitting the snowboard.:D


  • #2346
    drkpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    gmisk wrote: »
    How so?
    The case in the north...someone who flew back from Italy via Dublin.
    The case in the south, the guy was on holiday in Italy and flew back.
    What am I missing?
    Without those two people flying back from northern Italy we would have zero cases here.

    They might have flown back from central Italy/southern France if flights from northern Italy were banned; what do you think?


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  • #2347
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Phoebas wrote: »
    What are Armenia going to do the week after next, or the week after that?
    And why stop at schools? Why not business, places of worship, sporting and cultural venues?

    Maybe Armenia's 'serious action' is not the model to follow.


    Absolutely. There is no way this is going to be over in a week or three. Are we going to shut everything down for months?
    Shutting down has serious consequences. People are going to lose their jobs.
    Shutdowns may have to happen but they need to be proportionate.


  • #2348
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    all about the mane wrote: »
    You simply cannot say this. Please tell me you understand that.
    I just have. What are you failing to understand?

    We still have multiple flights going to Italy and multiple flights coming from Italy....does that seem sensible?


  • #2349
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    gmisk wrote: »
    How so?
    The case in the north...someone who flew back from Italy via Dublin.
    The case in the south, the guy was on holiday in Italy and flew back.
    What am I missing?
    Without those two people flying back from northern Italy we would have zero cases here.

    We've performed very limited testing throughout this crisis

    The only evidence we have that we didn't have cases arriving from China is that our health service is only as crippled as you'd expect it to be about this time of year


  • #2350
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Alex86Eire wrote: »
    Do we know if the guy with the virus was skiing? And did anyone publish a more specific location than Northern Italy?

    He was just there to go on the piste


  • #2351
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    was this guy part of school trip, only guy to get it?


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  • #2352
    theballz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    All Italy flights in should be banned

    Has China flights already been banned?

    Surely airport restrictions has to come in to place soon

    I am just back from Dublin airport, an incredible amount of flights arriving from Italy tonight. Much more than I would have ever realised

    They needed to be banned. It’s ridiculous


  • #2353
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    He was just there to go on the piste

    Stupid questions deserve a stupid answer.


  • #2354
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    drkpower wrote: »
    They might have flown back from central Italy/southern France if flights from northern Italy were banned; what do you think?
    They might have who knows.
    Hundreds of people still coming in and out from and to northern Italy every day seems like a great idea doesn't it?


  • #2355
    drkpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Ye your right just ignore that's where its coming from, Probably the best way forward,
    You'd defo get a job in the HSE

    Not sure you answers my question there.

    These people were Irish; don’t you think they would have just returned via another airport?


  • #2356
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    Reati wrote: »
    Has patient zero been identified and was it working with food?

    Not patient zero, but a "super spreader" because of the way the case was managed.
    A 38 year old Italian man, from the town Codogno, 60km from Milan

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-italy-paralysis-insight/as-coronavirus-slams-italy-paralysis-and-anxiety-spread-idUSKCN20M2WB


  • #2357
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    He was just there to go on the piste

    should of worn a condom and we wouldn't be in this mess


  • #2358
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,853 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    tuxy wrote: »
    What would be the concequences for them saying it was in Dublin?

    Don't know that ..what would it be?


  • #2359
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    expectationlost wrote: »
    was this guy part of school trip, only guy to get it?

    good news: wasn't a school trip, it was a holiday

    bad news: it was probably during the mid term


  • #2360
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Scotland's first case of coronavirus has been confirmed, bringing the UK's infection total to 36 as medics brace for the potentially deadly bug to spread even further.

    The patient is a resident of the Tayside area and recently returned home from northern Italy, where two regions - Lombardy and Veneto - have been locked down due to an outbreak that has killed 34.


  • #2361
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    gmisk wrote: »
    Without those two people flying back from northern Italy we would have zero cases here.
    The two cases here are people from here who got arrived back from Italy.

    If we closed off flights from Northern Italy, these people would still have come home - except that they would have a longer route home, possibly infecting more people on the way.


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  • #2362
    je551e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭je551e


    Is it possible that this boy family haven’t contracted it from him?


  • #2363
    the butcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    The rest of the world is now at the stage China was at on the 29th January (7.7k cases). Could well double the cases or nearly triple by Friday.


  • #2364
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Italy > Wuhan

    50 new cases so far for the day in Germany.


  • #2365
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Phoebas wrote: »
    The two cases here are people from here who got arrived back from Italy.

    If we closed off flights from Northern Italy, these people would still have come home - except that they would have a longer route home, possibly infecting more people on the way.

    yeah, and there could be a sizeable distance between actual cases and known cases


  • #2366
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    expectationlost wrote: »
    was this guy part of school trip, only guy to get it?

    Jesus Christ it has been said five or six times in this thread he was with his folks not on any school trip.

    What happened attention spans?


  • #2367
    drkpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    gmisk wrote: »
    They might have who knows.
    Hundreds of people still coming in and out from and to northern Italy every day seems like a great idea doesn't it?

    What do you think?

    It may not be a ‘great idea’ but you have to balance that against other ideas; and then decide what’s the best; what’s your idea for a wholesale containment/prevention strategy? If you have an issue with the NPHET’s strategy, you really need to provide an alternative rather than just venting


  • #2368
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Honestly reading the last few pages of this current thread the government and HSE and department of education can’t win. Because if they were all forthcoming they’d be someone bitching and complaining about that approach as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if the anger over the lack of info officially released is due to fact that we Irish want to know everyone’s business but get thick when other people know ours.


  • #2369
    Michelinextra.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Michelinextra.


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Scotland's first case of coronavirus has been confirmed, bringing the UK's infection total to 36 as medics brace for the potentially deadly bug to spread even further.

    The patient is a resident of the Tayside area and recently returned home from northern Italy, where two regions - Lombardy and Veneto - have been locked down due to an outbreak that has killed 34.

    Potentially deadly bug

    Like a tarantula


  • #2370
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    drkpower wrote: »
    Not sure you answers my question there.

    These people were Irish; don’t you think they would have just returned via another airport?

    Yes these two where Irish but you hardly think there the only people on the plane?

    So planes loads of people still flying in from the breeding ground of the infection in Europe,

    Ban flights from Northern Italy only returning flights for "Irish Citizens" if they want to come home the have to be tested on arrival and quartined its actually fairly simple.


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  • #2371
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234220114905587712


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