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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #2282
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Why weren't the schools closed and the families isolated after the return form Italy. Now all their contacts other pupils parents and their parents colleagues are exposed. Could have been avoided.Stop Italian flights too before it's too late.

    We may ask why this family weren’t more careful, given they were coming back from North Italy? They couldn’t have missed the whole issue??


  • #2283
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Sinn Fein statement on the current situation.

    "The demographics will look after themselves".


  • #2284
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Phoebas wrote: »
    What are Armenia going to do the week after next, or the week after that?
    And why stop at schools? Why not business, places of worship, sporting and cultural venues?

    Maybe Armenia's 'serious action' is not the model to follow.

    That's not the Armenia model. That's the Japan model.


  • #2285
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Phoebas wrote: »
    "The demographics will look after themselves".

    Having a load of pensioners die would do wonders for the health and social welfare bills in fairness.


  • #2286
    Reati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    The amount of contamination from Northern Italy really is extraordinary!!
    The only thing that makes sense to me is that the virus is rampant there and much bigger than authorities are saying...

    Has patient zero been identified and was it working with food?


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  • #2287
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Sorry, that's right, but the dust masks I was talking about are just paper ones.
    And oddly I wasn't talking about paper ones and stuck a picture up to illustrate. Oh and the surgical masks have the same filtration as basic throwaway dust masks.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #2288
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yes but just think of all the lives saved if everyone freaking out about the virus were to spend that energy on improving their driving!

    Sure, in a perfect world where the two are mutually exclusive :)


  • #2289
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    gmisk wrote: »
    Is it near Switzers?
    Nope near Apollo 1.


  • #2290
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    The amount of contamination from Northern Italy really is extraordinary!!
    The only thing that makes sense to me is that the virus is rampant there and much bigger than authorities are saying...

    Have to agree, and because it's in Europe it is more relevant to us here given the shortish flight times to and fro etc. More likely that a larger number of people will travel from here to there and vice versa than will travel to China, Japan, Iran etc.

    I wonder how the virus embedded there so quickly, and where it originated.


  • #2291
    Straffan1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Straffan1979


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Tell the government to let the rugby match go ahead and send the lad back to school in dublin then.

    Comparing a new virus still breaking out to the full season of a known virus for which we have vaccines is particularly pointless.

    Markets lost a trillion in one week. And there is no bottom in sight.

    Fear stalks the land and it will actually make the management of this episode particularly difficult... one of the fall outs from ‘the fear‘ is a surge in mental health problems associated with the irrational anxiety associated with possibly contracting the illness- this has been widely studied over previous ‘outbreaks’.

    This thread is a good example.. it’s based upon rumor or irresponsible speculation rather than knowledge and fact.


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  • #2292
    Reati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    gabeeg wrote: »
    That's not the Armenia model. That's the Japan model.

    Japan has shut schools and they won't reopen till April. That's more than a week.


  • #2293
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    If only Ireland was as quick

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234231321788133379?s=20


  • #2294
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    leavingirl wrote: »
    The great fake Swine epidemic of 2009. :)

    I knew someone who dIed from it, wasn't too fake for them.


  • #2295
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    The amount of contamination from Northern Italy really is extraordinary!!
    The only thing that makes sense to me is that the virus is rampant there and much bigger than authorities are saying...

    Wuhan 2.0


  • #2296
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Wibbs wrote: »
    N95 masks are better, but again as a limiting agent. In perfect use they filter down to 0.3 microns(IIRC), but the virus is 0.1 in size.

    My understanding is that FFP2 (the European standard equivalent to N95 which is an American one) is considered very efficient to block the virus even though the virus itself is indeed smaller than the filtering capacity of the mask. From what I read it is because the virus itself is not floating in the air on its own but is attached to larger particles which are effectively blocked by an FFP2 filter.

    And while it seems to be overkill, and FFP3 filter will block even finer particles.


  • #2297
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I called him out on stuff that he said and he said it was a previous poster that I hadn't read the posts correctly , that ge was sick, blah blah! Had us all feeling sorry for him and stopped debate.
    Glad he got banned , if he did , creep.

    Good on you, hope you feel vindicated now. No wonder the HSE is keeping information from us, we believe nothing.

    I don't see any problem with a bit of light relief and/or messing, it brings a bit of interest.

    But judges gotta judge.


  • #2298
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Wuhan 2.0

    Twohan


  • #2299
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    To defeat a novel virus we need Stephen king


  • #2300
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    The amount of contamination from Northern Italy really is extraordinary!!
    The only thing that makes sense to me is that the virus is rampant there and much bigger than authorities are saying...

    You’d think they’d have some handle on it. The only thing I can think of they haven’t identified the so called patient zero in northern Italy and they can’t track where it was spread, but honesty it seems all over northern Italy.


  • #2301
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Reati wrote: »
    Japan has shut schools till April.

    Yes but Japanese school kids are smart and will study at home.

    You just have to look at this board to see what our schools are turning out.


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  • #2302
    Straffan1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Straffan1979


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    The fear of covid 19 is filling up those South Korean hospitals (and soon to be stadia) real quick.


    No sympathy for the 30,000 dead from the flu this winter.


  • #2303
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    PANDEMIC
    Get your PANDEMIC


  • #2304
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Did anyone reverse Google image search runaways picture? I'm on my phone and can't.


  • #2305
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,767 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Just for anybody who wants to know about facemasks, there are generally two scales of ratings, EU and US. They are rated on their filter capacity, which is the ability to remove x% of of all particles that are 0.3 microns in diameter or larger.

    Over here we have:
    FFP1 80%
    FFP2 94%
    FFP3 99%

    In the US they have
    N95 95%
    N99 99%
    N100 99.97%

    If you look at eBay and Amazon listings, you will see FFP2 and N95 often described on the one listing, as they are close equivalents and the most common for sale. You can get a FFP1 as a two pack in the likes of Dealz, so they are the lowest standard generally.

    FFP2 is considered a good grade to stop a lot of the bad stuff from getting in, with healthcare professionals using the FFP3 standard is hospitals etc. Note that because of the high level of filtering in each standard, prolonged use can cause repository restrictions and have a side effect on your body. FFP3 specifically has the shortest use window before breathing difficulty's will occur.


  • #2306
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Reati wrote: »
    If it takes 14 days to show up in some cases, why only close for a week? Won't that simply leave the outliers to come back to infect and its really just kicking the can down the road.

    And it takes 4 weeks from the 1st case to the 1st death, we've a good bit to go yet.


  • #2307
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Reati wrote: »
    Japan has shut schools and they won't reopen till April. That's more than a week.

    rte wrote:
    Mr Abe's move, which was issued as a formal request rather than an order, drew scathing criticism, with health officials left scratching their heads and analysts said the plan was politically motivated and made little sense.

    Let's defer to the experts on this one.


  • #2308
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    JanuarySnowstor wrote: »
    The amount of contamination from Northern Italy really is extraordinary!!
    The only thing that makes sense to me is that the virus is rampant there and much bigger than authorities are saying...

    Looking at the world meter site it would seem according to them at least that much of the spread has come from Italy then there is Iran too.


  • #2309
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Reati wrote: »
    Japan has shut schools and they won't reopen till April. That's more than a week.

    Sure

    My response was to someone who was saying we shouldn't do likewise because it was only Armenia

    I'm just pointing out that Japan moved to shut their schools a while ago


  • #2310
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    PANDEMIC
    Get your PANDEMIC

    You sold me a dodgy pandemic earlier on- it turned out to just be a flu.
    I want my money back


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  • #2311
    mumo3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭mumo3


    What is the point in only isolating the kids/teachers in the school if nobody else is being isolated...imagine how far its spread....trying to do the calculations earlier, in my home I've 3 kids, 2 separate schools, my job and my sons football training (not to mention to teenager daughters off galavanting) ....... football team probably has kids from 7/8 schools, you can imagine how far that's spread from just one member of my family alone!!!


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