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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • 29-02-2020 11:11pm
    #1
    Beasty
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    It's "offically" arrived in Ireland with the first confirmed case beyond the one reported in NI earlier in the week. I fully expect temperatures to rise but would request everyone pays attention to the mod warnings carried over from earlier threads and set out below. In particular please remain civil to each other

    First thread

    Second thread

    Mod warnings:
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

    1. Please interact in a civil manner
    2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
    3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

    In terms of thread content:

    4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
    5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
    6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

    All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

    Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread
    Beasty wrote: »
    Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

    Now it's an instruction

    Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

    Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK

    A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

    Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

    Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

    I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

    Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

    In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

    Any questions PM me

    All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

    Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly

    This thread will be opened later this evening as Thread II heads towards the 10.000 post barrier


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    #2
    Beasty
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    I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    Do we get a free lollypop each on the opening of a new thread?


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    Beasty
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Do we get a free lollypop each on the opening of a new thread?
    If everyone can send one to the Office I will collate and re-distribute to the good little children in the thread....


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    fritzelly
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    So 3 new cases and 1 death in the rest of China

    China strong, China good


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    73bc61lyohr0mu
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    The joys of working as a driver on night shift. Pretty much no contact with people. My van is my own little isolation box.


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    skimpydoo
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    To those who say it's like the flu and you will recover that's not so for me and many others with compromised immune systems.


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    gabeeg
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    Can I use questionable maths?

    I say maths, but its sums really


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    tom1ie
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    From what ive read, people with even no symptoms can spread it. Which would be a nightmare.
    Yeah asymptomatic people. They are all over the place is reports are to be believed.


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    So 3 new cases and 1 death in the rest of China

    China strong, China good

    Well done comrades


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    Doctor Jimbob
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Do we get a free lollypop each on the opening of a new thread?

    I'd say we should chip in and get the mods a few lollypops for dealing with this madness.


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    tillyfilly
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    This virus is very changeable, it’s possible we know very little about it
    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/02/coronavirus-outbreak-bigger-latest-updates-200228232914773.html


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    tom1ie
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    23 tested positive in uk for c19.


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    sdanseo
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    So 3 new cases and 1 death in the rest of China

    China strong, China good

    Each province releases at different times doesn't it?


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    fritzelly
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    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I'd say we should chip in and get the mods a few lollypops for dealing with this madness.

    I think they'd appreciate some face masks more


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    tom1ie
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    tillyfilly wrote: »
    This virus is very changeable, it’s possible we know very little about it
    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/02/coronavirus-outbreak-bigger-latest-updates-200228232914773.html

    It’s only 12 weeks old!


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    Quantum Erasure
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    On the 9 o'clock news all they would say was the person was from the east coast, heard Harris on Playback this morning about the passenger who passed through Dublin airport a few days ago on route to the north, you'd swear he was being asked to divulge the third secret of Fatima.



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    tom1ie
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    I think they'd appreciate some face masks more

    No good.


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    BorneTobyWilde
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    The talk on CNN is they lost 2-3 weeks by not testing early, and because of it the virus must have spread hugely. Looks like we have made same mistake.


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    sdanseo wrote: »
    Each province releases at different times doesn't it?

    There may be an issue with test kits - vast majority are in Hubei apparently.

    There is NO WAY, no matter what ridiculous god you believe in, that there is 570 new cases in Hubei and 34 new deaths while there are 3 confirmed cases for the remaining 1.3 billion.


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    CinemaGuy45
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    I agree we do not know enough yet.

    I am not trying to scare people I have elderly relatives and I am worried for them.

    I say prepare for the worst and hope for the best.:)

    Saying everything is going to be just fine actually worries me.

    I think the worst case outcome should be clearly laid out along with common sense tips on trying to minimise the risk.


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    tom1ie
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    1000 cases in Italy 29 deaths. BBC news


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    wylo
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    So 3 new cases and 1 death in the rest of China

    China strong, China good


    you mean outside of epicenter? Cause Im seeing 575 new cases and 35 deaths.


    I feel bad counting these for purely selfish reasons to see how this will pan out. Each death means a devastated family. :(


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    tom1ie
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    wylo wrote: »
    you mean outside of epicenter? Cause Im seeing 575 new cases and 35 deaths.


    I feel bad counting these for purely selfish reasons to see how this pan out. Each death means a devastated family. :(

    Agreed but unfortunately we are gonna have to get used to death figures going up everywhere soon. We have to hope by some miracle ireland is different.


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    Cupatae
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    Beasty wrote: »
    If everyone can send one to the Office I will collate and re-distribute to the good little children in the thread....

    I heard from a reliable source on whats app and snapchat that this is just a ploy to get all the lolipops.


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    BorneTobyWilde
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    The fact someone died in Washington means that person was fine for up to 3 weeks before they got sick. Which means they spread it far and wide.


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    fritzelly
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    wylo wrote: »
    you mean outside of epicenter? Cause Im seeing 575 new cases and 35 deaths.


    I feel bad counting these for purely selfish reasons to see how this will pan out. Each death means a devastated family. :(

    Yes outside Hubei


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    tillyfilly
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    Im sure if we make it to Summer the heat will help rid us of this pestilence


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    Rob A. Bank
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    In the UK they tell the public in detail where the positive cases are from and where the possible infection sources are.
    The cases are from Gloucestershire, Hertfordshire and Berkshire.

    An infant school in Berkshire has issued a statement saying one of its members of staff had tested positive for the virus.
    The man, who is being treated at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital in central London, had not been abroad recently - unlike the other cases in the UK.

    Officials are trying to trace people who had contact with him. Haslemere Health Centre, which he had attended, has now reopened after "deep cleaning".

    A pub in Haslemere, called the Prince of Wales, also closed for a deep clean as "a precautionary measure". A sign outside the pub said that "a customer who visited us has tested positive for coronavirus"....

    Since the first UK cases were confirmed in York - two Chinese nationals - positive tests have been recorded in the south of England, Derbyshire, south Wales and Northern Ireland.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51684624

    Here the HSE released really vague information about the first 2 cases here, which results in crazy speculation and all kinds of unfounded rumors. The excuse of patient confidentiality for this vagueness is quite frankly ridiculous.

    Meticulous case and contact identification is how you limit the spread of viral diseases like this and also by keeping the public onside and informed. So said Dr Bruce Aylward the WHO expert who defeated Ebola in Africa and who has almost defeated Polio worldwide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m048uAa8L3k

    I do realize that we are all facing this huge unprecedented public health emergency for the first time and therefore everyone (including the HSE) deserves some slack, but mealy mouthed evasive answers to legitimate questions destroys trust and is not the way to go.

    Please stop hiding essential information from us HSE and Health Minister… straight talking, transparency and honesty is key to defeating this menace which threatens us all.


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    Cupatae
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    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Im sure if we make it to Summer the heat will help rid us of this pestilence

    or just be dying sick in the heat, which would be an absolute **** buzz


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    tom1ie
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    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Im sure if we make it to Summer the heat will help rid us of this pestilence

    Thailand?


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