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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,384 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Lot of media led hysteria, seasonal flu kills thousands in this country every year.

    Tell the Chinese they didn't need to bother helping out the Wuhan regional medical facilities then. They should have just let the infection run its course.
    The Russians didn't need to close their border with China.
    Tell the French to cancel their order for personal protective equipment.
    Tell the Italians to stop their efforts in northern Italy.
    etc etc etc

    Those actions had nothing to do with media hysteria and those actions are on a whole other level to anything any government has ever done with seasonal flu, or diabetes.
    In light of that, it shows how meaningless the statistics you quoted are.
    This is a new outbreak.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    screamer wrote: »
    I’d be far more concerned with holding to account spreaders of coronavirus than spreaders of info or misinfo on coronavirus......

    Holding to account in what way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    They also enjoy scaring others for kicks and giggles.

    yes they people are what we call trolls in the media or having the craic in real life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    Trump just ended the Afghanistan war....thought we could do with some good news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    dan786 wrote: »

    those orange balls sure are spreading in Asia!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    yes they people are what we can trolls in the media or having the craic in real life

    I wouldn’t think trolling and having the craic are that similar to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Tell the Chinese they didn't need to bother helping out the Wuhan regional medical facilities then. They should have just let the infection run its course.
    The Russians didn't need to close their border with China.
    Tell the French to cancel their order for personal protective equipment.
    Tell the Italians to stop their efforts in northern Italy.
    etc etc etc

    Those actions had nothing to do with media hysteria and those actions are on a whole other level to anything any government has ever done with seasonal flu, or diabetes.
    In light of that, it shows how meaningless the statistics you quoted are.
    This is a new outbreak.

    It's pointless educating some people on here. They'll be in denial until the virus effects someone in their family and even then who knows.

    Some people just see what they want to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Holding to account in what way?

    Sure that’s true there should be no repercussions the dead can’t complain right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    I wouldn’t think trolling and having the craic are that similar to be honest

    there are many variations of trolls, and having the craic doesn't really have a definition so long as a laugh is had , even if its a sick laugh at someone else's expense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    screamer wrote: »
    Sure that’s true there should be no repercussions the dead can’t complain right?

    What are you talking about? How should people be held to account?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Tell the Chinese they didn't need to bother helping out the Wuhan regional medical facilities then. They should have just let the infection run its course.
    The Russians didn't need to close their border with China.
    Tell the French to cancel their order for personal protective equipment.
    Tell the Italians to stop their efforts in northern Italy.
    etc etc etc

    Those actions had nothing to do with media hysteria and those actions are on a whole other level to anything any government has ever done with seasonal flu, or diabetes.
    In light of that, it shows how meaningless the statistics you quoted are.
    This is a new outbreak.

    Why are you so ridiculously over the top, what was posted was balanced and gave comparisons there was no mention of it wasn't serious just no need for the hysteria. Obviously it needs to be contained but people need to use there brains aswell and clam abit.

    The way you post and talk about stuff one would be nearly expecting something akin to the Walking dead in the next couple of hours.

    Take a few deep breaths for urself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    yes they people are what we call trolls in the media or having the craic in real life

    There is blantant scaremongering on this thread and it's nothing got to do with the 'craic'. It's people being assholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Italy v Iran in the semi final, winner to play China


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Imagine cancer got this sort of global reporting with death by death updates,maps, ect... imagine how dramatic it would look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    10% in a serious condition, deeply worrying considering how contagious the disease is.Ireland has a serious battle on its hands in the nxt few mths



    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233806585341906945


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    There is blantant scaremongering on this thread and it's nothing got to do with the 'craic'. It's people being assholes.

    some people are scared !


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,683 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    wadacrack wrote: »
    10% in a serious condition, deeply worrying considering how contagious the disease is.Ireland has a serious battle on its hands in the nxt few mths



    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233806585341906945

    And did this really begin with just that couple from Wuhan visiting Italy? Absolutely mental spread if that's the case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Lot of media led hysteria, seasonal flu kills thousands in this country every year.



    80,000 People are Sick with Coronavirus at the Moment - of which 77,000 are in China.

    This means that if you are not from China then this should remove 96% of your worry.


    81% of the Cases are MILD
    14% of the Cases are MODERATE
    and only 5% of the Cases are CRITICAL



    if you are under 50 years of age, and not living in China, you are more likely to win the lottery which is a 1 in 30,000,000



    the death rate for the people UNDER 50 years of age is only 0.02%



    On the worst day so far 108 people in CHINA died of Coronavirus.
    BUT, on the same day
    26,283 people died of Cancer
    24,641 people died of Heart Disease
    4,300 people died of Diabetes





    Furthermore Mosquitoes kill 2,740 people every day, and Snakes kill 137 people every day.


    i guess the difference is that we don't expect the snake population of the world to exponentially double every 6 days...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Imagine cancer got this sort of global reporting with death by death updates,maps, ect... imagine how dramatic it would look.

    cancer is not contagious, not comparable


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,384 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Why are you so ridiculously over the top, what was posted was balanced and gave comparisons there was no mention of it wasn't serious just no need for the hysteria. Obviously it needs to be contained but people need to use there brains aswell and clam abit.

    The way you post and talk about stuff one would be nearly expecting something akin to the Walking dead in the next couple of hours.

    Take a few deep breaths for urself.

    I referenced the actions of major governments in response to this outbreak. I didn't make up any of that, if I did please challenge that. If you think the Chinese, Russians etc were hysterical in anything they did, challenge that.
    The Chinese DID lock down one of their provinces.
    The Russians DID close their border with China.
    etc etc

    But how can quoting their actions in relation to the seriousness with which they approach coronavirus versus the flu be hysteria? How is it lacking in calmness? How is it over the top?

    The way you have challenged my post on the contrary it appears you don't want to face up to the reality of the threat this disease represents UNLESS major action is taken by governments.

    Comparing the deaths from diabetes to a new infectious disease is wrong on so many levels it has to be challenged. They are entirely different categories of disease any comparison of them is meangingless and ludicrous and dangerous and wrong.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    my ignorance is obvious, I thought bread grew on trees :pac:

    It does... breadfruit.. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Imagine cancer got this sort of global reporting with death by death updates,maps, ect... imagine how dramatic it would look.

    when is the last time there was a cancer rush to A&E? one of the questions is how will any health service deal with thousands of extra pneumonia cases all at the same time?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    cancer is not contagious, not comparable

    It's also not a virus. But I guess people know that when comparing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Nobody is scaremongering, the figures coming out of Italy do all the scaremongering themselves.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    cancer is not contagious, not comparable

    The point i was getting at was not cancer but how such magnification of the issue could make it look alot more dramatic. Cancer was the example as alot of people world wide are affected by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,999 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Osborne wrote: »
    You're also saying 45 million people will die and Norway is claiming 25% of the population will die.

    No, I was saying that others have said it. Those figures were for the number of people who might be infected in an unstoppable pandemic. 'only' 2% of those would be expected to die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Cupatae wrote: »
    The point i was getting at was not cancer but how such magnification of the issue could make it look alot more dramatic. Cancer was the example as alot of people world wide are affected by it.

    but it wouldn't induce such fear as people think they can avoid cancer if they just avoid a certain way of life or alternatively it is all in the lap of the gods whether they get it or not so worrying about it would be less beneficial, this pandemic of worry is all about fear and control


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Cupatae wrote: »
    The point i was getting at was not cancer but how such magnification of the issue could make it look alot more dramatic. Cancer was the example as alot of people world wide are affected by it.

    If this thread is getting to you stop reading it go make a nice cup of tea and have a few fairy cakes.

    The secret life of pets is starting on RTE 1 at 6.30 so you better hurry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Imagine cancer got this sort of global reporting with death by death updates,maps, ect... imagine how dramatic it would look.

    LOL. We have a winner.

    This will take some beating


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