Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

cnocbui

Cupatae wrote: »

They die, or recover this is life, its u that has ur head stuck in the sand, do you think banging out statistics and watching trolleys on boards is gonna change it ?

But life will go on and as with everything else thus far this will pass.

Everyone's mother/father? Yours?

screamer

I think the levels of ignorance and “as long as I’m alright jack, stuff you” around coronavirus are frightening. It kills 2% if we’re to believe the official figures, but it’s not a flat 2%, with immunity compromised and elderly at highest risk and a greater death rate than 2%. Seeing the stuff you attitude that a lot of people have, I’ve no faith that we in Ireland will do anything to protect other people or prevent the spread unless we’re forcibly quarantined. Either way I’m stock piling because I will have to look after myself and those in my family who are chronic asthmatics and at serious risk. Each to their own, but I do think people in high risk groups should prepare as well as they can and ignore the childish and ignorant remarks of others.

Titclamp

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
2. The first doctors to report its appearance among the public were arrested and silenced
3. The Chinese government originally tried to cover up the existence of the disease
4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature
5. The Chinese are attempting to take extreme steps to control it, steps so extreme they have never been taken in human history

There’s more to the story.

BSL-4 labs like these – in the US, Russia, China and Israel – exist for one reason only: to weaponize diseases. They have no other legitimate purpose.

The World Health Organization (WHO) signs off on the creation and operation of most of these labs.

Big Pharma provides the WHO with 50% of its funding.

The sponsor of these labs in the US is the Pentagon and they’re assisted in their work by the CDC.

Dr. Francis Boyle is an international law professor at the University of Illinois and author, among others, of Biowarfare and Terrorism. He’s the man who drafted the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 signed into law by George H. W. Bush.

He says the coronavirus has all the appears appearances of an offensive biological weapon that escaped from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory.

cnocbui

Runaways wrote: »

That’s going to backfire on him spectacularly if this spreads in the US. His base is the very demographic it hits hardest

Ah, you've made a miraculous recovery to be giving a toss about US politics. :rolleyes:

tillyfilly

Maintain a distance of 1 metre from anyone coughing or sneezing to stay corona virus safe , great way to stay safe on a bike in towns = sneeze

Runaways

cnocbui wrote: »

Ah, you've made a miraculous recovery to be giving a toss about US politics. :rolleyes:

Got some hospital grade painkillers. They’re fantastic
Only 6 left though.

Titclamp

silverharp wrote: »

fake news, im pretty sure he didn't say coronavirus was a hoax, don't listen to CNN so much

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
2. The first doctors to report its appearance among the public were arrested and silenced
3. The Chinese government originally tried to cover up the existence of the disease
4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature
5. The Chinese are attempting to take extreme steps to control it, steps so extreme they have never been taken in human history

There’s more to the story.

BSL-4 labs like these – in the US, Russia, China and Israel – exist for one reason only: to weaponize diseases. They have no other legitimate purpose.

The World Health Organization (WHO) signs off on the creation and operation of most of these labs.

Big Pharma provides the WHO with 50% of its funding.

The sponsor of these labs in the US is the Pentagon and they’re assisted in their work by the CDC.

Dr. Francis Boyle is an international law professor at the University of Illinois and author, among others, of Biowarfare and Terrorism. He’s the man who drafted the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 signed into law by George H. W. Bush.

He says the coronavirus has all the appears appearances of an offensive biological weapon that escaped from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory.

bb12

Cupatae wrote: »

Thats exactly what i do!! im a bad man!!, how ridiculous are you? im a realist and acknowledge that old and susceptible people will die from this, doesn't mean im going around hoping it happens or anything of the sort.

yes but these would be unnecessary deaths if proper precautions and measures are put in place to avoid the spread in the first place.

there's a difference from dying from old age or dying from negligence because a government/health authority/regular joe doesn't make extra effort to stop its spread.

cnocbui

Titclamp wrote: »

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
2. The first doctors to report its appearance among the public were arrested and silenced
3. The Chinese government originally tried to cover up the existence of the disease
4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature
5. The Chinese are attempting to take extreme steps to control it, steps so extreme they have never been taken in human history

There’s more to the story.

BSL-4 labs like these – in the US, Russia, China and Israel – exist for one reason only: to weaponize diseases. They have no other legitimate purpose.

The World Health Organization (WHO) signs off on the creation and operation of most of these labs.

Big Pharma provides the WHO with 50% of its funding.

The sponsor of these labs in the US is the Pentagon and they’re assisted in their work by the CDC.

Dr. Francis Boyle is an international law professor at the University of Illinois and author, among others, of Biowarfare and Terrorism. He’s the man who drafted the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 signed into law by George H. W. Bush.

He says the coronavirus has all the appears appearances of an offensive biological weapon that escaped from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory.

Meh, that's nothing, you want over the top conspiracy mongering - https://phiquyenchinh.org/2020/02/20/hiv-laced-covid-19-targets-human-testicles-its-tb-strand-blocks-the-immune-system/

spurious

Cupatae wrote: »

Heres facts for ya,

Most cases are Mild (more than 80%)

Most people recover

Hows that?

Wait and see, we are all doomed according to some here.
Doomed, I tell you.
And if this doesn't get us the real non fancy named flu will, or we will recover.

sondagefaux

This link downloads a pdf of a paper on the potential outcomes, mainly economic, of an influenza epidemic on the UK: https://t.co/0ZR0wBz7io?amp=1

ChikiChiki

tillyfilly wrote: »

Trump blames democrats for coronavirus
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/28/trump-calls-coronavirus-outbreak-a-hoax-and-links-it-to-immigration-at-rally

One good thing about this virus is that it is showing up Trump for the absolute space cadet he is.

Also Liverpool may not win the title 2nd good thing.

Other than that dooom!

Carol25

This thread has become extremely busy over the course of the past week. This has becoming a fast moving situation, and information is harder to come by and decipher with so many new countries being affected.
Just to reflect from week to week, this time last week we were coming to terms with the explosion of cases in Italy, and now this weekend we have France, Germany and UK all reporting increases.
After listening to various experts during the week on Primetime, RTE Radio 1, Newstalk, etc., I have come to the sad realisation that the Irish government's response is utterly inadequate. This will not be a political matter if the virus takes hold here, it will be chaos. A few questions I have for any members of government or the HSE that read this thread are:
1. Have our medical personnel in hospital's been supplied with enough Hazmat suits to protect themselves and the general public from a mass outbreak - I'm not talking about a few people in the isolation areas, but across the hopsital?
2. Some of the information given by our medical experts on various media channels across the state seems inaccurate and out of date. Have they not been given relevant up to date data from ECDC? Have they no other way of gathering data from other countries?
3. Why are all the officials we see on the news referring to the ECDC and WHO continuously? This doesn't contain the virus, these organisations just issue recommendations. Where is the Irish response and appropriate measures in relation to this?? They keep referring to lots of 'preparation' over the last few weeks, what is it? Do they have a plan of action as to where hundreds of sick people might go if there's a mass outbreak, and why are we not being given any information as to what it is?
So many questions, so few answers. I understand the need to avoid panic, but some amount of realism, action and appropriate measures need to be taken. The head of ISME on Newstalk's segment re the virus was so inaccurate it's astounding as he was brought on as a guest to discuss its potential impact...

fritzelly

Titclamp wrote: »

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
Blah
Blah

Posting it twice doesn't make a conspiracy real

Runaways

bb12 wrote: »

yes but these would be unnecessary deaths if proper precautions and measures are put in place to avoid the spread in the first place.

there's a difference from dying from old age or dying from negligence because a government/health authority/regular joe doesn't make extra effort to stop its spread.

Trouble with that is had our government put in loads of restrictions and compulsory stay at home orders etc you’d have the very same people bemoaning those worried about this, complaining about the restrictions.
That’s just ridiculous but that’s people for you.

silverharp

Titclamp wrote: »

4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature

that was disproven, if it was Indian researcher one, others looked at the same data and said this lad misinterpreted what he was looking at

sReq | uTeK

fr336 wrote: »

Three new UK cases. One in my county!! 23 total.

Only 66,439,927 left to get through.

Snow Garden

cnocbui wrote: »

The 'lad' is an epidemiologist https://sph.hku.hk/en/about-us/faculty-and-staff/academic-staff/leung,-gabriel-m

I'm sure snow garden will provide a link to their CV so we can see why they think their opinion is superior.

I bow to your expertise. In that case you should tell more people that some lad said 45,000,000 people will die from the new coronavirus and that you absolutely believe him. Have you told your family yet?

fr336

joe_99 wrote: »

It's a question not statement.

Your 25% statement is disingenuous. You know that is a prediction of a WCS

I didn't know that actually but am glad to be corrected. I think we can agree to disagree.

Cupatae

spurious wrote: »

Wait and see, we are all doomed according to some here.
Doomed, I tell you.
And if this doesn't get us the real non fancy named flu will, or we will recover.

get the rosary beads at the ready!

Rob A. Bank

Titclamp wrote: »

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
2. The first doctors to report its appearance among the public were arrested and silenced
3. The Chinese government originally tried to cover up the existence of the disease
4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature
5. The Chinese are attempting to take extreme steps to control it, steps so extreme they have never been taken in human history

There’s more to the story.

BSL-4 labs like these – in the US, Russia, China and Israel – exist for one reason only: to weaponize diseases. They have no other legitimate purpose.

The World Health Organization (WHO) signs off on the creation and operation of most of these labs.

Big Pharma provides the WHO with 50% of its funding.

The sponsor of these labs in the US is the Pentagon and they’re assisted in their work by the CDC.

Dr. Francis Boyle is an international law professor at the University of Illinois and author, among others, of Biowarfare and Terrorism. He’s the man who drafted the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 signed into law by George H. W. Bush.

He says the coronavirus has all the appears appearances of an offensive biological weapon that escaped from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory.

A biological weapon which kills the elderly and people with existing health problems...

Yeaa right !

Titclamp

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A biological weapon which kills the elderly and people with existing health problems...

Yeaa right !

What has it done to the stock market?

Nothing

sReq | uTeK

Titclamp wrote: »

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
2. The first doctors to report its appearance among the public were arrested and silenced
3. The Chinese government originally tried to cover up the existence of the disease
4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature
5. The Chinese are attempting to take extreme steps to control it, steps so extreme they have never been taken in human history

There’s more to the story.

BSL-4 labs like these – in the US, Russia, China and Israel – exist for one reason only: to weaponize diseases. They have no other legitimate purpose.

The World Health Organization (WHO) signs off on the creation and operation of most of these labs.

Big Pharma provides the WHO with 50% of its funding.

The sponsor of these labs in the US is the Pentagon and they’re assisted in their work by the CDC.

Dr. Francis Boyle is an international law professor at the University of Illinois and author, among others, of Biowarfare and Terrorism. He’s the man who drafted the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 signed into law by George H. W. Bush.

He says the coronavirus has all the appears appearances of an offensive biological weapon that escaped from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory.

Yup just up and grew legs and got out of dodge.

sReq | uTeK

Titclamp wrote: »

What has it done to the stock market?

Nothing

Reset it by 2 months. I can see why the USA would sponsor it to destroy their own stocket market..

Big Ears

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A biological weapon which kills the elderly and people with existing health problems...

Yeaa right !

It's a conspiracy to prevent the pension crisis I tells ya !

Cupatae

Personally speaking id wash my hands more to do my bit to stop the spread but Margret down the road read somewhere online that it was the end of days and went out and bought the last 748 bottles of hand sanitiser left in town.

tillyfilly

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Only 66,439,927 left to get through.

the IRA were more potent than this virus

Titclamp

Big Ears wrote: »

It's a conspiracy to prevent the pension crisis I tells ya !

If you lost 6 trillion in a week you be worried.

Mwengwe

Titclamp wrote: »

1. It first appeared in the only city in China with a BSL-4 laboratory capable of creating biological weapons – Wuhan
2. The first doctors to report its appearance among the public were arrested and silenced
3. The Chinese government originally tried to cover up the existence of the disease
4. It has genetic fingerprints that do not normally occur in nature
5. The Chinese are attempting to take extreme steps to control it, steps so extreme they have never been taken in human history

There’s more to the story.

BSL-4 labs like these – in the US, Russia, China and Israel – exist for one reason only: to weaponize diseases. They have no other legitimate purpose.

The World Health Organization (WHO) signs off on the creation and operation of most of these labs.

Big Pharma provides the WHO with 50% of its funding.

The sponsor of these labs in the US is the Pentagon and they’re assisted in their work by the CDC.

Dr. Francis Boyle is an international law professor at the University of Illinois and author, among others, of Biowarfare and Terrorism. He’s the man who drafted the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 signed into law by George H. W. Bush.

He says the coronavirus has all the appears appearances of an offensive biological weapon that escaped from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory.

Where does the bat come into it?

SEPT 23 1989

A report from the local Tesco

Pasta shelves are clearing

They have jacked up the price of tins of Heinz baked beans