Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 09:37AM

reg114 wrote: »

I'll start to take it seriously when there are multiple deaths in Ireland , until then its totally futile getting into a tizzy

Who is getting into a tizzy? Why do you have to use such loaded terms?
Why are you even here on this thread? Are you having a tizzy?

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 09:39AM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

How would the Italian team arrive?

Charter flight with special clearance.

minikin · 25-02-2020 09:39AM

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reg114 · 25-02-2020 09:41AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Who is getting into a tizzy? Why do you have to use such loaded terms?
Why are you even here on this thread? Are you having a tizzy?

Tizzy is a colloquialism for undue worry ... Its evident on this forum, Im drawing attention to that

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 09:42AM

reg114 wrote: »

Tizzy is a colloquialism for undue worry ... Its evident on this forum, Im drawing attention to that

And you couldn't have just said "undue worry"???

Thanks for your service. I'll leave you to your tizzy you are having about the undue worry on this forum.

reg114 · 25-02-2020 09:43AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

This is not a coherent argument. They have access to all the same stats you have and they closed the border. Should they not show some perspective on it vis a vis the flu and see that they are panicking?
Or are you now admitting they are right to treat this and approach this as a much more serious concern than the flu?

And in the age of easy air travel, viruses don't respect borders.

And in the age of air travel it still hasnt landed on Irish soil. Im not saying it wont but until people start dropping like flies in Ireland, why worry ?

reg114 · 25-02-2020 09:44AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

And you couldn't have just said "undue worry"???

Thanks for your service. I'll leave you to your tizzy you are having about the undue worry on this forum.

no worries

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 25-02-2020 09:47AM

reg114 wrote: »

And in the age of air travel it still hasnt landed on Irish soil. Im not saying it wont but until people start dropping like flies in Ireland, why worry ?

Spanish flu, when people didn't even travel.

brick tamland · 25-02-2020 09:51AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Good chance that today will be the day.
Guy being quarantined in a Dub hospital last night - recently landed from Singapore and showing symptoms.

Not scare mongering, just passing on info.
It is inevitable that there will be case(s) here so maybe one will actually force protocols to be enacted.

Or whats significantly more likely...................

dude on a plane from Singapore has a headcold

reg114 · 25-02-2020 09:51AM

Sabrina Strong Vomit wrote: »

Spanish flu, when people didn't even travel.

So it had nothing whatsoever to do with millions of troops going back home after the first world war ? Id call that mass travel myself. Spanish flu pandemic ran from jan 1918 to dec 1920.

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2020 09:52AM

reg114 wrote: »

And in the age of air travel it still hasnt landed on Irish soil. Im not saying it wont but until people start dropping like flies in Ireland, why worry ?

I guess there's a fundamental mentality clash at play here.

You think that the time to worry is when people start dropping like flies, a reactionary approach and others are much more cautious and would like to pre-empt any fly like apocolypse.

I'd be somewhere in the middle - cautious without being too hysterical.
The likelihood, fingers crossed, is that most people will be ok as it really only seems to impact on older/already sick people but there's nothing wrong with taking the odd precaution, especially if it will give peace of mind.

I think the last thread with talk of powercuts, etc was getting ludicrous though.

Mrcaramelchoc · 25-02-2020 09:54AM

They should absolutely cancel the 6 nations Italian match.no question about it.

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2020 09:55AM

brick tamland wrote: »

Or whats significantly more likely...................

dude on a plane from Singapore has a headcold

Yeah could well be and I have no idea to be honest as I wasnt involved in anyway in his quarantining

As I said - just passing on info.

reg114 · 25-02-2020 10:00AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I guess there's a fundamental mentality clash at play here.

You think that the time to worry is when people start dropping like flies, a reactionary approach and others are much more cautious and would like to pre-empt any fly like apocolypse.

I'd be somewhere in the middle - cautious without being too hysterical.
The likelihood, fingers crossed, is that most people will be ok as it really only seems to impact on older/already sick people but there's nothing wrong with taking the odd precaution, especially if it will give peace of mind.

I think the last thread with talk of powercuts, etc was getting ludicrous though.

My approach is based on measured common sense, For example should the Ireland Italy match go ahead with the probability of 1000s of Italian fans coming to Ireland ? absolutely not. I would call that a logical precaution given the potential threat italian fans might pose. Beyond a clear and obvious threat posed, there is very little the man or woman in the street can do in ireland other than practice basic hygiene. Stockpiling food , fuel and masks at this stage seems to me to be excessive. And I agree talk of powercuts really just puts the panic in pandemic.

Drumpot · 25-02-2020 10:03AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQUocok8xbQ

Interview of Dr John, nice and short for those with limited attention spans.

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2020 10:04AM

reg114 wrote: »

My approach is based on measured common sense, For example should the Ireland Italy match go ahead with the probability of 1000s of Italian fans coming to Ireland ? absolutely not. I would call that a logical precaution given the potential threat italian fans might pose. Beyond a clear and obvious threat posed, there is very little the man or woman in the street can do in ireland other than practice basic hygiene. Stockpiling food , fuel and masks at this stage seems to me to be excessive. And I agree talk of powercuts really just puts the panic in pandemic.

I tend to agree with you.
I think caution should be exercised, etc while someone said earlier that just do a bit of an overshop on non perishables which seems reasonable if you are worried.

It's arrival here is inevitable so we need to reconcile ourselves with it.
Yep - the powercuts/food shortages stuff is a nonsense but if you are worried about going out to public places then theres no harm in buying a few tins of soup!

Boggles · 25-02-2020 10:04AM

Sabrina Strong Vomit wrote: »

Spanish flu, when people didn't even travel.

reg114 wrote: »

So it had nothing whatsoever to do with millions of troops going back home after the first world war ? Id call that mass travel myself. Spanish flu pandemic ran from jan 1918 to dec 1920.

Fun fact.

It was called the Spanish Flu because Spain were neutral during the war and were allowed freely report on it.

Most other countries censored the news of the pandemic because they thought it would spread fear and effect morale.

Drumpot · 25-02-2020 10:07AM

reg114 wrote: »

My approach is based on measured common sense, For example should the Ireland Italy match go ahead with the probability of 1000s of Italian fans coming to Ireland ? absolutely not. I would call that a logical precaution given the potential threat italian fans might pose. Beyond a clear and obvious threat posed, there is very little the man or woman in the street can do in ireland other than practice basic hygiene. Stockpiling food , fuel and masks at this stage seems to me to be excessive. And I agree talk of powercuts really just puts the panic in pandemic.

I’d actually agree with a lot of that except the putting aside of provisions.

What do you think is the first thing that will happen when people start getting reported as having it here? Why do you think there is panic buying in Milan when it’s only in a few towns? Never underestimate people’s over reaction to the unknown.

Having some provision is just being prudent and it doesn’t effect anybody else while the virus isn’t here. Everybody Rushing to the shops to get provisions after the horse has bolted is the very essence of panic. Those of us who have put aside provisions will not be part of that. If the virus doesn’t break out or get bad I can use all my provisions for my family. It’s just common sense really.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-02-2020 10:10AM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

How would the Italian team arrive?

Would you put your head against the ass of an Italian at the moment?

Just sayin....i'm just putting it out there...don't judge

Hector Savage · 25-02-2020 10:12AM

Italian fans coming too ?

25-02-2020 10:15AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Would you put your head against the ass of an Italian at the moment?

Just sayin....i'm just putting it out there...don't judge

For Mattia Bellini’s bum, I’ll take that risk.

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 10:16AM

reg114 wrote: »

My approach is based on measured common sense, For example should the Ireland Italy match go ahead with the probability of 1000s of Italian fans coming to Ireland ? absolutely not. I would call that a logical precaution given the potential threat italian fans might pose. Beyond a clear and obvious threat posed, there is very little the man or woman in the street can do in ireland other than practice basic hygiene. Stockpiling food , fuel and masks at this stage seems to me to be excessive.

Filling the larder, petrol tank and medicine cabinet now isn't panic - it's a logical precaution given the potential threat Ireland faces. We have flights coming in every day from Italian airports which serve the affected areas.

If you want to see panic, it'll be when we do have confirmed cases here and every one else is scrambling to empty the shelves...

Waiting until there is a clear and obvious threat is always too late to take precautions in my experience. You can't take precautions against a fire when it is already broken out.

pc7 · 25-02-2020 10:17AM

I would like to see the government (or all parties) come together and advise against non essential travel, large gatherings etc. I can see the Italy game being cancelled nearer the time if numbers start to rise. I am really hoping it has peaked in China and they have it under some control, enough that the medical systems can help those that need it.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-02-2020 10:17AM

Being first out of the gate is not panic.

Drumpot · 25-02-2020 10:20AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Italian fans coming too ?

Seems to be that the EU is taking a stand together approach , probably as much a PR excercise as Anything. Logic seems to be out the window at the moment. I am wondering why all European sports have not been stopped as we get to grips on this. The only logical conclusion is money. Otherwise fans of different counties in different sports travelling around Europe for sports games would be one obvious thing to spread the disease and thus cease for the time being. You only need one or two fans in a crowded stadium to maybe be super spreaders. But of course that may panic people so rather then reduce the risk let’s keep games going so everything feels normal, that’s more important then preventing spread.

We really do have our heads up our asses on this. It’s a virus , I doesn’t follow our rules, it doesn’t care about borders or treaties. There is so much we can do to prevent if from spreading but money (economy/business) is taking priority over common sense.

SusanC10 · 25-02-2020 10:20AM

The Match is 10 days away. Still plenty of time to cancel.

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 10:23AM

reg114 wrote: »

covid19 mortality rate 3%

Flu mortality rate 0.5%

Sars mortality rate 10%

Mers mortality rate 30%

As you can see the mortality rates for Sars and Mers were far higher than for either Covid 19 or Flu. The difference is hype perpetuated by social media and a 24 hour news cycle.

I didnt think we were still allowed to talk about numbers in here, but since thre is already a post I'll add my two cents

Sars and Mers mortality rates above are based on closed cases
The 3 % Covid is based on closed+open cases, they can't be compared

DrumSteve · 25-02-2020 10:24AM

Having a few supplies in is no harm; just keep them there in case you get locked in for a week.

I've been doing it since the big snow of about 2 years ago. As others have said, if it hits bad you've got some back up and if not, you don't have to go shopping.

pc7 · 25-02-2020 10:24AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

The Match is 10 days away. Still plenty of time to cancel.

We are meant to be traveling to Paris for the last game and again I'm expecting it to be cancelled if things continue as they have the last few days.

gozunda · 25-02-2020 10:26AM

Minister for Health Simon Harris said that “mass gatherings” may need to be looked at amid concerns about #coronavirus - he cites in particular the Ireland v Italy Six Nations game in Dublin

Meanwhile in other news ...

Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald has announced plans to hold a series of public meetings over the next two weeks, The meetings aim to rally public support for Sinn Féin’s (Beer Hall Putsch) efforts
to get into government.

Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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