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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #9392
    Candamir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Candamir


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    They have a plan alright, 20,000 dead here if it arrives going by the Sunday business post yesterday. We're are 96% capacity in ICU as it is and we've only a couple of proper oxygen ventelators. We're pretty much screwed was the theme of the report.

    A couple of ‘proper oxygen ventilators’? How many of the other ones do we have?
    (I didn’t see the business post yesterday, can you link/copy the article)


  • #9393
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    They have a plan alright, 20,000 dead here if it arrives going by the Sunday business post yesterday. We're are 96% capacity in ICU as it is and we've only a couple of proper oxygen ventelators. We're pretty much screwed was the theme of the report.

    In 2017, the amount of people who died in Ireland was around 30000. So the SBP reckons that if coronavirus arrives in Ireland, that it would increase the death rate by 66%.

    Is it if one case arrives in Ireland or is there a minimum number of cases to arrive to activate the guaranteed 20000 deaths?

    Also, what is a "proper oxygen ventilator"??


  • #9394
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


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  • #9395
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    In 2017, the amount of people who died in Ireland was around 30000. So the SBP reckons that if coronavirus arrives in Ireland, that it would increase the death rate by 66%.

    Is it if one case arrives in Ireland or is there a minimum number of cases to arrive to activate the guaranteed 20000 deaths?

    Also, what is a "proper oxygen ventilator"??

    Don't forget this whole thing started with one case.

    One case becomes two and that becomes four eight and so on.


  • #9396
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tara73 wrote: »
    good lord, you should have along hard think about yourself. what age are you? yours is the behaviour of a puberscent 13 year old boy!

    Hardly. Posting some nonsense and immediately pointing out that it's nonsense a few posts later is just a hungover attempt to bring attention to what posters are doing here, as hamfisted as it is.


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  • #9397
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hardly. Posting some nonsense and immediately pointing out that it's nonsense a few posts later is just a hungover attempt to bring attention to what posters are doing here, as hamfisted as it is.


    Do you mean drunk?

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  • #9398
    Space Dog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Space Dog


    Just leaving this here...
    https://twitter.com/peta/status/1230224794991419397?s=20


  • #9399
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Do you mean drunk?

    Half hungover, half drunk. It's easy to spend a Sunday drinking between the fight and the rugby when you can't go to work because of the virus.


  • #9400
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    In 2017, the amount of people who died in Ireland was around 30000. So the SBP reckons that if coronavirus arrives in Ireland, that it would increase the death rate by 66%.

    Is it if one case arrives in Ireland or is there a minimum number of cases to arrive to activate the guaranteed 20000 deaths?


    Those figures are based on their 'worst case scenario' where up to 1m people get infected, so based upon a 2% fatality rate.


  • #9401
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Don't forget this whole thing started with one case.

    One case becomes two and that becomes four eight and so on.

    So what you are saying is that the coronavirus respects the two times table?


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  • #9402
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    38 new cases in Italy. Total 193. Source BNO news


  • #9403
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,296 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Space Dog wrote: »
    Just leaving this here...
    https://twitter.com/peta/status/1230224794991419397?s=20

    well of course PETA dont think it is a coincidence but they're nutters and best ignored. coronavirus is not a term specific to this virus. it describes a class of viruses not all of which came from animals.


  • #9404
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Those figures are based on their 'worst case scenario' where up to 1m people get infected, so based upon a 2% fatality rate.

    Well, drunkmonkey seemed pretty definitive that if it arrived, then bam 20000 gone.


  • #9405
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Half hungover, half drunk. It's easy to spend a Sunday drinking between the fight and the rugby when you can't go to work because of the virus.

    Just as easy to spend a Sunday wacking off with porn or going for a walk in the park.


  • #9406
    Indestructable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    It seems the death toll in Iran is about 50, according to a health official there.

    Dr. John looks to have reliable sources in Iran and he was saying it's very bleak there.


  • #9407
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just an email every Friday saying another week off.

    What about the town near you, was quarantine lifted yet?


  • #9408
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,077 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Those figures are based on their 'worst case scenario' where up to 1m people get infected, so based upon a 2% fatality rate.

    If 1 million people get infected in Ireland, I would expect that the fatality rate here will be higher as medical capacity to deal with severe cases will be overwhelmed.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #9409
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,328 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    CinemaGuy45 wrote:
    Just as easy to spend a Sunday wacking off with porn or going for a walk in the park.


    A Sunday walk in the park wacking off, sounds like a plan


  • #9410
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    If 1 million people get infected in Ireland, I would expect that the fatality rate here will be higher as medical capacity to deal with severe cases will be overwhelmed.

    So you are saying that the worst case scenario would actually be worse than the worst case scenario outlined in the SBP?

    It's all getting inception-y.


  • #9411
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    What about the town near you, was quarantine lifted yet?

    Don't think so. Been following the news and haven't seen any word of it. If Vietnam's numbers are legit, it's remarkable they only got 16 cases with 15 recovered. Like they were building field hospitals for thousands at the start..

    Schools look like they'll probably be closed till the end of March so I guess they're not taking many chances. They're looking at quarantining people flying from Japan and Korea.


    Edit: I believe it's lifted. See it now.


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  • #9412
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Speaking with a colleague from one of the affected regions of Italy. Family are getting briefed in great detail on how and what to clean and how to maintain separation to help prevent spread. Government handling food distribution and distribution of materials to people like cleaning solutions. Sounds really together, to be honest, even if delivering on the promises will obviously be a logistical challenge they seem to have it together at the beginning based on what I'm told. One does wonder if authorities here would have the wherewithal. Hopefully they can surprise us.

    As for an outbreak here, what we've seen now in a few countries is a cluster of "super spreaders" going to the gym, to work, to their church. So really if one of them arrives in country for any reason, you're off at the races and you will get many cases. And once you have 50 or 100 cases you pretty much have to kick into quarantine mode, as with the incubation period you can guarantee you have a multiple of that waiting to become symptomatic and it's time to shut down.


  • #9413
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    pc7 wrote: »
    This, this, this, this all day long is why I’m worried, our hospitals are bursting at the seams as it is, we do not have the facilities for an increase in people on ventilators or ICU requirements here https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1231817781643038721?s=21

    This is the type of tweet that annoys me, kinda true but wrong at the same time, the make shift hospitals are only for use in moderate case's.
    Severe are in one real hospital, all other cases of sivere illness were moved to other hospitals.
    Does not take from the fact that we probably don't have enough respirators.


  • #9414
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    Surely the government are ordering and purchasing more oxygen ventilators. If not, why not?

    If people die due to lack of available care and the HSE being woefully unprepared their families can sue.

    It will hit here soon. It is not a case of if but when. The people who tested negative so far I am assuming had connections to China. Are they being re-tested and quarantined? If not, why not?


  • #9415
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,515 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We're allowed to post lies and bullshlt. Just take everything I say with a pinch of salt.

    My thread about this fearmongering in feedback:

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058055420/1/#post112585000

    Reply from an admin:




    If boards.ie policy is to allow fake news in 2020, I will continue to make a mockery of it and the posters here doing it.

    Do not post in this thread again


  • #9416
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    If 1 million people get infected in Ireland, I would expect that the fatality rate here will be higher as medical capacity to deal with severe cases will be overwhelmed.

    Nonsense the way you are going on you would think Irish hospitals were overcrowded with old people on trollies for days at a time or something.

    We are a modern first world country.


  • #9417
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,108 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    At least 50 people have died in one city in Iran of coronavirus since Feb 13 according to the Guardian citing a regional news agency.


  • #9418
    Irish Stones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    Unearthly wrote: »
    38 new cases in Italy. Total 193. Source BNO news


    Total in excess of 200 now.


  • #9419
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    At least 50 people have died in one city in Iran of coronavirus since Feb 13 according to the Guardian citing a regional news agency.

    Iran feels like it has the secrecy of China without the capability to effectively mobilise once the cat is out of the bag. I'd say they were head in sanding it, and now have themselves a real problem. Holding an election when they're at 50 dead in one city is a big flashing red warning side of head in sand.


  • #9420
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    A Sunday walk in the park wacking off, sounds like a plan

    Better than the plan he went with anyway.:D


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  • #9421
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    a big worry would nurses,doctors have the training to avoid getting the virus when seeing people with the Virus.

    At least Singapore have got things under control. Hopefully March is warm but it probably wont be.= going by last year.


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