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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #8852
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    draconian measures imposed in Italy to stop spread of the virus, could we do the same without a government?


  • #8853
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    yes you do, it's called data analysis LOL

    Pulling numbers out of your a** is not an option


    Yes if is how much does the new children's hospital cost again.:D

    You would never make it in government pulling numbers out of their ass is an art form.:)


  • #8854
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Yes if is how much does the new children's hospital cost again.:D

    You would never make it in government pulling numbers out of their ass is an art form.:)


    I could never be a politician, I just can't sugarcoat a turd :D


  • #8855
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,981 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Two flights touched down from Milan earlier in Dublin where we still have zero checks for the virus, in an international airport. It beggers belief.

    Since body tempertue checks have been inefective in outher countries, what kind of checks should we be doing?


  • #8856
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    tuxy wrote: »
    Since body tempertue checks have been inefective in outher countries, what kind of checks should we be doing?


    stopping flights, nobody leaves, nobody arrives, quarantine ourselves for a month and watch. We are still on time for it


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  • #8857
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    unreported cases = imaginary number
    The official stats don't contain imaginary numbers, clear?

    Haha good circular arguments. You are a complete spoofer.


  • #8858
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tuxy wrote: »
    Since body tempertue checks have been inefective in outher countries, what kind of checks should we be doing?

    Anal probing.


  • #8859
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    I reported both, you can see the recovery rate for close cases and for closed+open cases
    Personally i wouldn't bother with any stats that contain almost 70% of unknown outcomes in it.

    The number of closed cases is increasing and the rate are starting to revel trends, it's good data

    I know how to read both. You are confusing many by switching between them to debate.

    At least highlighting to people which one you are using is a more logical approach.

    Both are not wrong but they can’t be used together as they work on different totals.


  • #8860
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    tuxy wrote: »
    Since body tempertue checks have been inefective in outher countries, what kind of checks should we be doing?

    I would still use body temperature checks but tbh I think its not enough and as I stated earlier closing the ports is an option that should at the very least be discussed. We have an advantage as an island nation why not use it?


  • #8861
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    I know how to read both. You are confusing many by switching between them to debate.

    At least highlighting to people which one you are using is a more logical approach.

    Both are not wrong but they can’t be used together as they work on different totals.

    I think I hear somebody calling saying you're tea is ready.


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  • #8862
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    I know how to read both. You are confusing many by switching between them to debate.

    At least highlighting to people which one you are using is a more logical approach.

    Both are not wrong but they can’t be used together as they work on different totals.


    You asked for the calculation, i gave you the calculation
    I reported on recovery 30% because it's the right figure to use when you claim that death rate is 3%
    Apples with apples, or oranges with oranges


  • #8863
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Woah I thought they had found all the infected on the cruise liner by now. 57 more passengers and crew confirmed positive now, almost 700 people positive now

    9 more passengers have also experienced serious complications since yesterday.
    Over 5% of passengers with the virus are now in a serious condition


  • #8864
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Two flights touched down from Milan earlier in Dublin where we still have zero checks for the virus, in an international airport. It beggers belief.

    Ah sure it's all grand no reported cases here so relax.


  • #8865
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,981 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Woah I thought they had found all the infected on the cruise liner by now. 57 more passengers and crew confirmed positive now, almost 700 people positive now

    With the long incubation time, taking them off the ship was never going to stop more from testing positive.


  • #8866
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    What's the story where you are Ads? Did the place close to you just stop getting more cases?


  • #8867
    Candamir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Candamir


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    I reported both for you to understand, but you don't understand stats Everybody else in here get them

    Anyone who says statistics are easy to understand probably hasn’t worked a whole lot with them tbh.


  • #8868
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Candamir wrote: »
    Anyone who says statistics are easy to understand probably hasn’t worked a whole lot with them tbh.

    They seem to more of an art than a science at the best of times :P


  • #8869
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    tuxy wrote: »
    With the long incubation time, taking them off the ship was never going to stop more from testing positive.

    It's crazy, I wonder will the number of infected on the ship pass the 1000 mark
    It's insane that there are literally over a thousand people from that ship going about their daily life now, no quaratine, one negative test and off they were on busses&taxis home. Anyway some countries are quarantining those people or else not allowing them to come home for a fortnight so it will be Japan which will bare the brunt of that mistake


  • #8870
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Candamir wrote: »
    Anyone who says statistics are easy to understand probably hasn’t worked a whole lot with them tbh.


    stats are my 9-5 job, unfortunately
    the stats on Worldometers are the easiest possible available out there, very basic key indicators


  • #8871
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PhantomHat


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Ah sure it's all grand no reported cases here so relax.
    Tis grand. I think we should all just have a nice cup of tea and wonder if Jonny Sexton will get his kicking boots back on for the Italy game


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  • #8872
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,981 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    PhantomHat wrote: »
    Tis grand. I think we should all just have a nice cup of tea and wonder if Jonny Sexton will get his kicking boots back on for the Italy game

    What if they were to delibertly infect the constants of love Island.
    Just think of the viewing figures and national interest in the virus!


  • #8873
    The chan chan man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭The chan chan man


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Two flights touched down from Milan earlier in Dublin where we still have zero checks for the virus, in an international airport. It beggers belief.

    Seriously? Have we no checks in place in Dublin?? Typical of the ****ing Paddy to make a bags of this!


  • #8874
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,888 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    PhantomHat wrote: »
    Tis grand. I think we should all just have a nice cup of tea and wonder if Jonny Sexton will get his kicking boots back on for the Italy game


    No way that game goes ahead.


  • #8875
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,266 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    There is a risk here that neighbouring EU countries could decide to close their borders with Italy. This would carry political fallout.

    Apparently Austria has already toyed with the prospect.


  • #8876
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,907 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Guys getting fed up with this back and forth arguing about CFR, give it a rest the outbreak is still in its infancy, the only way you'll get an accurate calculation is when this first wave is over and into the summer before the next wave and hopefully with an antidote by then.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8877
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    tuxy wrote: »
    Since body tempertue checks have been inefective in outher countries, what kind of checks should we be doing?


    Of course body temperature checks dont catch everyone that is infected but they may catch some, along with other measures it may not stop the spread but it may cut it down, every little helps.


  • #8878
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PhantomHat


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    No way that game goes ahead.

    Indeed! No talk of that stall! I do wonder about the general Irish perception of this outbreak. Feels like many are sleepwalking


  • #8879
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    The chan chan man wrote: »
    Seriously? Have we no checks in place in Dublin?? Typical of the ****ing Paddy to make a bags of this!

    Zero checks. Ryanair flight due in again from Milan at 7:50 tonight. They'll walk right through and onto hotels, taxis, restaurants etc...this evening.


  • #8880
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Just a suggestion to try and move this thread away from all this back and forwards on the stats. Stats is a subject in itself (one I studied at University), but we are possibly only in the early days of this virus, also possibly in its letter days - we simply do not know at this time. Stats for it are incomplete until it's over and we have seen through the full aftermath. There is actually only partial data out there. Hence people read different things into different figures. Rather than continuing like that I think it best to stick to verifiable facts. Yes conclusions can be drawn from those facts using statistical analysis, but we are working with an incomplete picture.

    Can we therefore drop the backwards and forwards debate on the stats and get back to the facts and indeed discussing possible future actions at personal, local, governmental and global levels.


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  • #8881
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,981 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Zero checks. Ryanair flight due in again from Milan at 7:50 tonight. They'll walk right through and onto hotels, taxis, restaurants etc...this evening.

    We don't have to wait for the HSE, we should be more proactive like these young people in Hong Kong.


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