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NCT discontinue lift inspections (now with places with working lifts)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Fonthill Saturday last. Only one lift working when asked a very Mexican shrug not our problem if your car goes up there or not, ring head office ie p off and dont bother us. no we wont put your car on the lift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭AH92


    So for the lift retest guys if you manage to book a retest slot there’s no guarantee they’ll do it as of now? In the fonthill centre particularly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭degsie


    trellheim wrote: »
    Fonthill Saturday last. Only one lift working when asked a very Mexican shrug not our problem if your car goes up there or not, ring head office ie p off and dont bother us. no we wont put your car on the lift.

    Had the very opposite experience there on Sun. Car was back for re-test for a headlight issue that required use of equipment. Was told that the car would also get the lift test but may just have to wait a little longer as there was just one available. In the end it went pretty quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Kealyboy


    Does anyone know is the inspection lift in operation in the Kilkenny NCT centre? Or is this out of operation at the moment.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭uncle-mofo


    Anyone know if Galway is up and running fully? Booked in for tomorrow night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭honda boi


    I'm guessing there's no point booking retests for centres that aren't any of the ones they listed on there site.
    Still amazed how nothing is been said by anyone officially about this for awhile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭barneygumble99


    Enniscorthy and Athlone definitely up and running plus the Dublin ones. Waterford , kilkenny, Carlow, portlaoise, tullamore, cahir, Naas are not. That’s all I know for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭MAYOMICK


    These eight centres are in addition to the six locations, Deansgrange (South Dublin), Ballinasloe, Athlone, Skibbereen, Ballina, and Enniscorthy, announced last Friday 31 January.Lifts at these locations will be used primarily for those drivers who are due to undergo a Driving Test and NCT Taxi roadworthiness test.

    Got this off NCT website but does anybody know if the lifts in Ballina or Westport are operational.I rang Nct today and they said that Ballina wasnt working but they also gave me incorrect information about early inpection on my own car (import) so I dont know what to believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Bikerman2019


    So was in Greenhills at 9am for a 2pm test. Explained owner snowed in and I was helping, they said come on in.

    Did the test but no ramp (as expected). Passed everything possible with no ramp and tester advised to ring ncts and book deans Grange or North Point who have working ramps.
    If not ramp tested by date in March, test again and will be charged again.

    So, rang ncts. The two named above are only taxis and urgents, as skeleton service. Told to ignore deadline from tester as it is out of my control. Keep an eye on website.

    It appears the testers do not know themselves so talk to the office by phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭nanook5


    Rang customer service just now and they say the new lift in Limerick has not been put in. Ring back early next week to check for a date.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭RioM


    Kealyboy wrote: »
    Does anyone know is the inspection lift in operation in the Kilkenny NCT centre? Or is this out of operation at the moment.

    Thanks

    I just booked my retest online which is due before Feb 20th. The last time I phoned, they made a booking and it got cancelled by text that evening. I'll give it a few hours and might try phoning...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭zepman


    So, rang ncts. The two named above are only taxis and urgents, as skeleton service. Told to ignore deadline from tester as it is out of my control. Keep an eye on website.

    I just booked the retest online for the Sunday just gone, at Northpoint. My previous NCT was expiring on Monday, so just wanted to try my luck even though the website mentions that it's only for taxis and for those with upcoming driving tests.

    They did do it fortunately, although when I showed up at the original booked time, they said it's cancelled and asked me if I could come back in the evening. Wasn't too much a bother for me as I wanted to get it over with the same day. Think they'll accommodate if there are no cars booked that need priority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    I had mine Northside Saturday, rang Monday and told to ring back Wednesday week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    What do you propose they do about a lift with structural defects?? Would you go in under a jeep on a lift with cracks in it??

    A similar fault was found in a few lifts. The design of lift obviously has a weak point.

    Could they not just get a competent professional to inspect and assess each lift on a periodic basis to verify whether or not each lift has developed the fault and then give a go/no-go for continued use until the next inspection.

    Just because a few units have developed the defect does not mean that all have or will develop the same defect.

    An all-stop and renewal of the lifts en masse seems like an extreme and very disruptive measure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    Rang there & he said lifts weren’t back working in Northside 1 or 2 and to ring back Friday this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    So was in Greenhills at 9am for a 2pm test. Explained owner snowed in and I was helping, they said come on in.

    Did the test but no ramp (as expected). Passed everything possible with no ramp and tester advised to ring ncts and book deans Grange or North Point who have working ramps.
    If not ramp tested by date in March, test again and will be charged again.

    So, rang ncts. The two named above are only taxis and urgents, as skeleton service. Told to ignore deadline from tester as it is out of my control. Keep an eye on website.

    It appears the testers do not know themselves so talk to the office by phone.

    NCTS website says ... The test will be completed with the omission of the underbody inspection, which will be conducted at a later date when the lifts are returned to use. Customers will incur no additional fees as part of this process...

    Having already paid for a test and retest I would expect that payment to also cover a test (and one retest if necessary) of the underbody inspection part of the test. I would not expect to have to repeat earlier parts of the test which were already passed or pay more for the NCTS to complete something for which they have already been paid.

    It seems the NCTS needs to get a clear message to their employees (and the public) regarding the impact where they cannot complete all parts of the test in less than than a 28 days, both in terms of what will need to be tested when lifts are available (full test or just underbody inspection) and the cost implications to the public, if any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭honda boi


    If there is no lift available before your 28 days retest.
    Do they do a full test again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭zepman


    honda boi wrote: »
    If there is no lift available before your 28 days retest.
    Do they do a full test again?

    Check your retest deadline on their website. They seem to have extended it due to the issue. My initial test was on Jan 29th, the day they stopped the lift inspections. After a couple of days, when I checked the website to book the retest, the deadline displayed for me was March 29th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    We have a car that is due for re-test within 28 days (17th February). It requires both a visual and lift inspection. I was told on the phone that I must present the car for retest within the 28 days to cover the visual/non lift inspection and pay the €28, then re book the car again for the test inspection when they are back in operation which I wont have to pay for.

    This means they cannot facilitate a full re-test. Should I be untitled to a free test overall.

    My thoughts were that if they cannot book you in for a full re-test in the 28 days your were entitled to it free. ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭MAYOMICK


    FionnK86 wrote: »
    Rang there & he said lifts weren’t back working in Northside 1 or 2 and to ring back Friday this time.

    My daughter had a car in there on Sunday in Northpoint1 and she was sent to Northpoint2 because they had a lift.

    Also I rang NCT yesterday and they said that the lifts in Ballina were being used only for Taxis etc.Today it was discussed on local radio and numerous people rang in to say they got cars passed there in the last few days.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    Daughter's car was tested in Youghal on Monday. No working lift. She was advised to get the lift portion of the test done in Little Island. She rang yesterday and was told the lift was in use for Taxis only and keep an eye on their website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭Buffman


    I had mine booked into Naas for next week, I just rescheduled it for the end of March, hopefully by then the NCT and ramp manufacturer will have sorted out this mess.


    The cars not due until April so have a bit of wiggle room.

    Feck potentially having to go 3 times!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭uncle-mofo


    No lift inspection happening in Galway tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Carson10 wrote: »
    We have a car that is due for re-test within 28 days (17th February). It requires both a visual and lift inspection. I was told on the phone that I must present the car for retest within the 28 days to cover the visual/non lift inspection and pay the €28, then re book the car again for the test inspection when they are back in operation which I wont have to pay for.

    This means they cannot facilitate a full re-test. Should I be untitled to a free test overall.

    My thoughts were that if they cannot book you in for a full re-test in the 28 days your were entitled to it free. ?


    The way i read it is your car failed on something say like bulb or tyre which is a visual and lift inspection say a rusted brake pipe or suspension bush which is a 28 euro retest charge which you pay then.Free test for ramp work when back working.
    Its not a full retest as it should only be what is failed on nct form.
    BUT have seen a car go back passed on the items listed but another fault found by another tester and would not pass it.:eek::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    NCT in Waterford today, got a sheet stating incomplete test.

    Was told to call before the 28 days "retest" date to have the visual inspection part done.

    Not sure what happens if lifts not available by then, I'm not traipsing around the county or country as I work about 1 minute's drive from the centre!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,493 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Nearly 400 posts, and most of them furious and panic-ridden.

    Just chill. If you're due an NCT, wait until the issue is sorted. Nobody is going to go to jail, amass penalty points or have their car impounded as a result of the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Struggling to understand why it's taking so long to sort. Are the RSA paying for the new lifts? Got a funny feeling APPLUS are hanging back on what should have been a straightforward swap of old lift for new


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,336 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    dodzy wrote: »
    Nearly 400 posts, and most of them furious and panic-ridden.

    Just chill. If you're due an NCT, wait until the issue is sorted. Nobody is going to go to jail, amass penalty points or have their car impounded as a result of the issue.

    A lot of people are furious with good cause.
    This has been handled very badly by Applus and the RSA.

    Chilling is a good idea but most would rather do it at home or in the pub not in the NCT waiting room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    dodzy wrote: »
    Nearly 400 posts, and most of them furious and panic-ridden.

    Just chill. If you're due an NCT, wait until the issue is sorted. Nobody is going to go to jail, amass penalty points or have their car impounded as a result of the issue.
    Ya agree if everyone stopped and cancelled there booking at the start until it's fixed, I don't mind getting car tested but am going to wait till its fully up and running again. No test centre no points.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Ya agree if everyone stopped and cancelled there booking at the start until it's fixed, I don't mind getting car tested but am going to wait till its fully up and running again. No test centre no points.

    That's your decision. The law on requiring a valid test certificate to use a car in a public place has not been changed. Whatever about turning a blind eye to not having a valid test certificate if you have a recent half passed test report I'd be less confident about being let go on my way without anything at all.

    I have a few months to go before my car is due for test but if it was due soon or up I'd do what part of the NCT is available at the time and be able to produce a half completed test report.

    People have been advised, though on what authority is unclear, to carry their partially complete test report in the car and any service records to be able to produce at a garda checkpoint if needed.

    This 'arra, sure tis grand', until it isn't is not good enough. The outgoing minister for transport, sport and tourism failed to do anything about regulating for the situation.

    The incoming minister needs to act on this as a matter of priority if everything is not back on track when a new government is formed. Existing test certificates need to be extended or temporary test certificates issued based on completion of partial testing.

    There also needs to be clear and regular communication about the ongoing situation both from the NCTS and the government.

    Has the survey of all lifts been completed? Is there a remediation / replacement plan in place? How long before full testing will be available again? How long before the underbody inspection backlog will be cleared? What temporary legal solution to address the situation is being put in place and for how long?


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