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  • #842
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ghost of ireland past wrote: »
    I don't think that merely holding a passport is sufficient.

    You're wrong. That's the legal definition of being Irish.


    What's your(incorrect) definition?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #843
    ghost of ireland past
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 228 ✭✭ghost of ireland past


    Irish people are stupid for not demanding change from our government.

    We have put up with corruption in the Gardai for decades and we continue to do so. That makes us stupid in my view. Our politicians are useless and yet they get voted in time after time.

    Immigration is no different. We should act like the Japanese and say no. We'll allow 1, or maybe 2, but we won't allow too many.


  • #844
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Brian? wrote: »
    Enough to fill the labour pool. Plus some acceptance of refugees, because it’s decent to accept people who need asylum.

    Non Irish are twice as likely as Irish to be in receipt of rent supplement, doesn't seem they are filling the labour pool, more likely to be a burden on our welfare bill.


  • #845
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Stop talking. That thread the other guy quoted was about literal Nazis. You dont have context of the conversation. We werent talking about conservatives we were talking National socialists and fascists.

    No it wasn't. That whole debate centred on how you know someone is a fascist or not, due to people being labelled fascist willy-nilly. Likewise with Nazi*.

    Regardless, if someone is a Nazi, they are not "fair-game" to be murdered. People like you are the reason laws and and a functioning justice system are so important.

    Edit: * in America predominately


  • #846
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    No it wasn't. That whole debate centred on how you know someone is a fascist or not, due to people being labelled fascist willy-nilly. Likewise with Nazi*.

    Regardless, if someone is a Nazi, they are not "fair-game" to be murdered. People like you are the reason laws and and a functioning justice system are so important.

    Edit: * in America predominately

    LOL

    That specific discussion was about literal Heil-Hitler Nazis. Just stop talking.

    You’ve gotten to the point where you’re defending Nazis on boards.ie. I dont know if its the lack of self awareness, or more likely you have a hard on for authoritarian right wing men (possible homoeroticism, but im not judging).

    But I’ll say it again. If you declare yourself to be a Nazi you are a direct threat to my friends, my family, and everything I love about Ireland. If you, a Nazi, try to assert your dominance in this country I will not hesitate to eliminate you violently because what happens if Nazis get in power is far more worse than making a few corpses of sad angry little men like Justin Barrett (The deformed gremlin).


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  • #847
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ghost of ireland past wrote: »
    Irish people are stupid for not demanding change from our government.

    We have put up with corruption in the Gardai for decades and we continue to do so. That makes us stupid in my view. Our politicians are useless and yet they get voted in time after time.

    Immigration is no different. We should act like the Japanese and say no. We'll allow 1, or maybe 2, but we won't allow too many.

    Irish people aren't stupid.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #848
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    enricoh wrote: »
    Non Irish are twice as likely as Irish to be in receipt of rent supplement, doesn't seem they are filling the labour pool, more likely to be a burden on our welfare bill.

    Actually - immigrants are more likely to be employed. But carry on.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/migrants-more-likely-to-be-in-work-than-irish-883643.html


  • #849
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭enricoh


    alastair wrote: »
    Actually - immigrants are more likely to be employed. But carry on.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/migrants-more-likely-to-be-in-work-than-irish-883643.html

    So migrants are 4% more likely than Irish to be working but 100% more likely to be on rent supplement than Irish. Fantastic news, let's take more in - the next ones might be more beneficial to our economy!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/huge-scale-of-immigration-is-making-our-housing-crisis-worse-35498057.html

    Last year, I decided to ask the Department of Social Protection what percentage of rent supplement was paid out to non-Irish EU nationals, and non-EU nationals.

    As at February of last year, the figure was 35pc. This is a remarkable total. Remember, 17pc of the population is "foreign-born", so immigrants are over-represented in the figures by two to one.


  • #850
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Stop talking. That thread the other guy quoted was about literal Nazis. You dont have context of the conversation. We werent talking about conservatives we were talking National socialists and fascists.

    Excuse me, don't be a little shyte telling other people to stop talking.

    Where are the National socialists in Ireland these days ?
    You waffle on about Justin Barrett.
    FFS he may be an irritating eejit that wants to drag us back under the fold of the catholic church, but I don't recall him ever espousing the shyte the Nazis came out with.

    How conservative does one have to be to be ripe to be considered one of your undesirables ?

    BTW you do know the ones that started the conversations about wiping out people with different outlooks and different views were the nazis ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #851
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    alastair wrote: »
    Actually - immigrants are more likely to be employed. But carry on.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/migrants-more-likely-to-be-in-work-than-irish-883643.html

    Sop conflating working legally entitled immigrants with the usual shower of chancers you are normally defending.

    Using that metric you would lump Yosuke Sasaki into the same mix as the "18 year old Egyptian" that murdered him.

    The vast vast majority of people in Ireland have no problems with the Yosuke Sasaki of this world, but have a lot of fecking issues with the other gent and all the other "god knows whos from god knows where" that you are quite happy to disperse around the country.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • #852
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,141 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Brian? wrote: »
    Irish people aren't stupid.

    When it’s comes to the ballot box, Irish people are fuching idiots!


  • #853
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭enricoh


    jmayo wrote: »
    Sop conflating working legally entitled immigrants with the usual shower of chancers you are normally defending.

    Using that metric you would lump Yosuke Sasaki into the same mix as the "18 year old Egyptian" that murdered him.

    The vast vast majority of people in Ireland have no problems with the Yosuke Sasaki of this world, but have a lot of fecking issues with the other gent and all the other "god knows whos from god knows where" that you are quite happy to disperse around the country.

    Here's a good news story today from the asylum spoofer industry, this entrepreneur has 500k in the bank. This hard working lad won't be a drain on resources anyway!
    Maybe rte will do a little heart warming interview with him!


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/man-squatting-at-asylum-centre-had-500-000-in-his-account-1.4165488?mode=amp


  • #854
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    jmayo wrote: »
    Excuse me, don't be a little shyte telling other people to stop talking.

    Where are the National socialists in Ireland these days ?
    You waffle on about Justin Barrett.
    FFS he may be an irritating eejit that wants to drag us back under the fold of the catholic church, but I don't recall him ever espousing the shyte the Nazis came out with.

    How conservative does one have to be to be ripe to be considered one of your undesirables ?

    BTW you do know the ones that started the conversations about wiping out people with different outlooks and different views were the nazis ?

    Stop talking.

    That specific quote on that specific thread was in response to someone defending the rights of Heil-Hitler Nazis. You are trying so desperate to steer this into a conversation about conservatives when that was never what my out-of-context post was about.

    And i’ll say it again. Nazis WILL BE PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED.

    Dont you go declaring yourself to be a strongman masterrace around me or you’ll have to prove it. And if Justin Barrett is on a sidewalk ranting about immigrants while im out with my Russian girlfriend I wont hesitate to toss that hobgoblin freak into the Liffey.
    jmayo wrote: »

    BTW you do know the ones that started the conversations about wiping out people with different outlooks and different views were the nazis ?

    HAHAHAHHA mate if my grandad was alive (ww2 vet who killed nazis in 1944) he would’ve cracked your jaw for saying that. You’re deranged if you legitimately believe killing Nazis makes you as bad as them.

    Its a moral obligation. Like wiping your ass and flushing that shyt stain down the sewer, where Nazi corpses belong.

    And if this post offends you, step back and ask yourself: Why does the idea of attacking Nazis offend you? Have some self awareness.


  • #855
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    what happens if Nazis get in power is far more worse than making a few corpses of sad angry little men like Justin Barrett (The deformed gremlin).

    Demonstrably untrue, Communists have murdered about 100 million more people than the Nazis. There's no comparison at all.


  • #856
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Why is this person allowed to continually make threats of violence on Boards.ie?
    I thought this behaviour was prohibited?


  • #857
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    Why is this person allowed to continually make threats of violence on Boards.ie?
    I thought this behaviour was prohibited?

    Are you a nazi?


  • #858
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    Demonstrably untrue, Communists have murdered about 100 million more people than the Nazis. There's no comparison at all.

    Total lie. Communists never murdered anyone.


  • #859
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Total lie. Communists never murdered anyone.

    Hahahaaaa


  • #860
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    Hahahaaaa

    Are you even Irish ?


  • #861
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    jmayo wrote: »
    Sop conflating working legally entitled immigrants with the usual shower of chancers you are normally defending.

    Using that metric you would lump Yosuke Sasaki into the same mix as the "18 year old Egyptian" that murdered him.

    The vast vast majority of people in Ireland have no problems with the Yosuke Sasaki of this world, but have a lot of fecking issues with the other gent and all the other "god knows whos from god knows where" that you are quite happy to disperse around the country.

    I’m not conflating anything:
    Originally Posted by enricoh View Post
    Non Irish are twice as likely as Irish to be in receipt of rent supplement, doesn't seem they are filling the labour pool, more likely to be a burden on our welfare bill.

    So, are they? Nope, they’re not.


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  • #862
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Closing this thread for a few minutes while I look at a few pages of posts


  • #863
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Beasty wrote: »
    Closing this thread for a few minutes while I look at a few pages of posts
    I'm re-opening after a number of cards have been handed out. A couple of reminders
    Please be civil - in particular attack the post, not the poster
    If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the mods to consider any appropriate action

    Oh, and let's not have any more of this "Nazi" crap


  • #864
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    enricoh wrote: »
    So migrants are 4% more likely than Irish to be working but 100% more likely to be on rent supplement than Irish. Fantastic news, let's take more in - the next ones might be more beneficial to our economy!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-quinn/huge-scale-of-immigration-is-making-our-housing-crisis-worse-35498057.html

    Last year, I decided to ask the Department of Social Protection what percentage of rent supplement was paid out to non-Irish EU nationals, and non-EU nationals.

    As at February of last year, the figure was 35pc. This is a remarkable total. Remember, 17pc of the population is "foreign-born", so immigrants are over-represented in the figures by two to one.


    And yet - immigrants are more likely to be supporting this rent supplement payments, along with every other income tax supported social provision, than Irish nationals are. It’s been established for many years that immigrants are net contributors to the Irish economy.


  • #865
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    LOL

    That specific discussion was about literal Heil-Hitler Nazis. Just stop talking.

    You’ve gotten to the point where you’re defending Nazis on boards.ie. I dont know if its the lack of self awareness, or more likely you have a hard on for authoritarian right wing men (possible homoeroticism, but im not judging).

    But I’ll say it again. If you declare yourself to be a Nazi you are a direct threat to my friends, my family, and everything I love about Ireland. If you, a Nazi, try to assert your dominance in this country I will not hesitate to eliminate you violently because what happens if Nazis get in power is far more worse than making a few corpses of sad angry little men like Justin Barrett (The deformed gremlin).

    No. I'm defending the rule of the law and the land. You have no right to murder anyone regardless of what you may think of their views, or indeed what they may think of you and yours. If you love Ireland so much you'd agree. You do realise the UVF and Ulster terrorists up in the North used the same reasoning as you to go around murdering Nationalists.

    If you can't see that distinction of what I am saying then there's no helping you. If you think it's me with a hard on for authoritarianism than it is you that lacks the self awareness.


  • #866
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    No. I'm defending the rule of the law and the land. You have no right to murder anyone regardless of what you may think of their views, or indeed what they may think of you and yours. If you love Ireland so much you'd agree. You do realise the UVF and Ulster terrorists up in the North used the same reasoning as you to go around murdering Nationalists.

    If you can't see that distinction of what I am saying then there's no helping you. If you think it's me with a hard on for authoritarianism than it is you that lacks the self awareness.

    Sorry mate but Im going with the mod on this one. If you want to discuss the false dichotomy of eliminating evil vs letting evil proliferate make another thread. As beasty says

    No more of this Nazi crap


  • #867
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Sorry mate but Im going with the mod on this one. If you want to discuss the false dichotomy of eliminating evil vs letting evil proliferate make another thread. As beasty says

    No more of this Nazi crap

    No it's fine. I'm quite happy with the law of the country as it stands. Making it legal to murder someone with abhorrent views is not acceptable and most of the country thinks the same. There is nothing to debate.

    Goodluck.


  • #868
    Yellow_Fern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    oh someone has never heard of rules of war and thinks killing during war is like killing during peacetime *cringe*


  • #869
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    enricoh wrote: »
    Here's a good news story today from the asylum spoofer industry, this entrepreneur has 500k in the bank. This hard working lad won't be a drain on resources anyway!
    Maybe rte will do a little heart warming interview with him!


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/man-squatting-at-asylum-centre-had-500-000-in-his-account-1.4165488?mode=amp

    Instead of being put on the next plane out of the country he is given free legal aid.

    And people wonder about the rise of right wing views in Ireland?

    Is it any wonder?

    People will get angry seeing stuff like this.

    That guy should be out of the country.


  • #870
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    alastair wrote: »
    Actually - immigrants are more likely to be employed. But carry on.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/migrants-more-likely-to-be-in-work-than-irish-883643.html

    'Immigrants', of course, being a term you like to use as way to conceal, at least as much as reveal.
    However, within the migrant population there are wide disparities, with Africans experiencing low employment rates of 45%.

    Gee, thanks for the link.


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  • #871
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,432 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Mod

    Move on from posts about Nazis and WW2 and keep the thread on topic

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