No right wing alternative= No alternative

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

So, how dem National Party candidates doing, so? Can't find any info for some reason...

alastair

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, how dem National Party candidates doing, so? Can't find any info for some reason...

They’re just about to make their breakthrough. Any minute now.

Brian?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, how dem National Party candidates doing, so? Can't find any info for some reason...

Better than I expected. Over 1000 votes in some constituencies.


On the other hand, John Waters got 390 votes. That cheered me up.

suicide_circus

Brian? wrote: »

On the other hand, John Waters got 390 votes. That cheered me up.

925 but still

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

suicide_circus wrote: »

925 but still

Probably includes the transfers from Peter Casey.

Brian?

suicide_circus wrote: »

925 but still

I’m less happy with that. But still nice.

gmisk

Brian? wrote: »

Better than I expected. Over 1000 votes in some constituencies.


On the other hand, John Waters got 390 votes. That cheered me up.

I see a couple of Gemtrails mates got less than 1 percent...

ohnonotgmail

Brian? wrote: »

I’m less happy with that. But still nice.

He was beaten by some lad called Spoiled Votes. Bit of an odd name TBH.

pjohnson

Really wonder why there isnt a right wing party. The right wing candidates consistently do so well.

The Nal

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, how dem National Party candidates doing, so? Can't find any info for some reason...

Humiliated.

gmisk

The Nal wrote: »

Humiliated.

Totally flopped, I saw one guy got about 0.2%

The Nal

gmisk wrote: »

Totally flopped, I saw one guy got about 0.2%

The biggest hope for them was James Reynolds in Longford/Westmeath and he........ he didn't do well.

Their politics, and Gems and her few followers, have been widely rejected countrywide by the Irish people. Every single candidate, every single constituency. Its a no from Ireland.

Mad_maxx

The Nal wrote: »

The biggest hope for them was James Reynolds in Longford/Westmeath and he........ he didn't do well.

Their politics, and Gems and her few followers, have been widely rejected countrywide by the Irish people. Every single candidate, every single constituency. Its a no from Ireland.

We have always very keen to display aprooved respectability in this country, it was a Conservative Catholic aprooved respectability back in the day, now it's the kind which meets the aprooval of RTE and the rest of the Liberal commentatriat.

Would require a very charismatic figure to lead a new and fresh movement on the right, many people do have concerns about immigration etc but it's not respectable to say it

Hard to know if a nigel farrage could emerge here, we don't have a single Conservative media outlet so the message can't gain wide traction

ILoveYourVibes

SporadicMan wrote: »

40% of the housing list is non-EU nationals.

Source?

Also you would realize how many of them work in the HSE etc?

ohnonotgmail

Mad_maxx wrote: »

We have always very keen to display aprooved respectability in this country, it was a Conservative Catholic aprooved respectability back in the day, now it's the kind which meets the aprooval of RTE and the rest of the Liberal commentatriat.

Will require a very charismatic figure to lead a new and fresh movement on the right, many people do have concerns about immigration etc but it's not respectable to say it

1% of the electorate thought immigration was a concern. 1%. There is no movement. Just the usual incels and loonies.

Mad_maxx

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

1% of the electorate thought immigration was a concern. 1%. There is no movement. Just the usual incels and loonies.

Relax, i didn't vote for anyone bar FF and FG

Read back what i said about aprooved respectability

We as a people run in herds

ILoveYourVibes

Its amazing how far apart boards is (or some on here) from the electorate.

I mean I am not shocked at SF surging. I didn't vote for them. Personally i wouldn't. But I totally get why it happened.

'Its housing stupid'.

ohnonotgmail

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Relax, i didn't vote for anyone bar FF and FG

Read back what i said about aprooved respectability

We as a people run in herds

So people voted for sinn fein because it was the respectable thing to do? Pull the other one.

The Nal

Mad_maxx wrote: »

We have always very keen to display aprooved respectability in this country, it was a Conservative Catholic aprooved respectability back in the day, now it's the kind which meets the aprooval of RTE and the rest of the Liberal commentatriat.

Will require a very charismatic figure to lead a new and fresh movement on the right, many people do have concerns about immigration etc but it's not respectable to say it

Nope. People just didn't vote for them. No one likes them or agrees with their policies. Its as simple as that.

You can't look at these results and think there is any validity or appetite for this "movement". There is none. Its over. National humiliation. Every single candidate, every single constituency.

ILoveYourVibes

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

So people voted for sinn fein because it was the respectable thing to do? Pull the other one.

Its definitely NOT socially acceptable or hasn't been here to vote for SF.

I think that is why it surprised RTE ....people who voted SF aren't admitting openly they voted SF or support them.

Mad_maxx

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

So people voted for sinn fein because it was the respectable thing to do? Pull the other one.

No shame in being a SF voter

Different story with believing immigration is having a strain on housing etc

Mad_maxx

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its definitely NOT socially acceptable or hasn't been here to vote for SF.

I think that is why it surprised RTE ....people who voted SF aren't admitting openly they voted SF or support them.

SF have been an established part of the public debate for years, to equate them with people who are uneasy about immigration is just off the mark

The hard left have always gotten a warm welcome in the Irish media, Richard boyd Barrett was regularly on RTE years before becoming even a member of Dun Laoighre Council

alastair

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Relax, i didn't vote for anyone bar FF and FG

Read back what i said about aprooved respectability

We as a people run in herds

A notion rather at odds with the fragmented nature of who we elect. The number of elected independents in this country is hardly herd behaviour. This is a country all over the shop, but demonstrably disinterested in xenophobia.

Mad_maxx

alastair wrote: »

A notion rather at odds with the fragmented nature of who we elect. The number of elected independents in this country is hardly herd behaviour. This is a country all over the shop, but demonstrably disinterested in xenophobia.

Your last line is a political one

Immigration was never raised once during the campaign by any of the mainstream parties, extraordinary when you consider that housing was the top issue

That elephant is hiding in full view

alastair

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Your last line is a political one

Immigration was never raised once during the campaign by any of the mainstream parties, extraordinary when you consider that housing was the top issue

That elephant is hiding in full view

My entire post was a political one - the context is politics.

Immigration was, as polled, not a driver of electorate choices. Along with Brexit, and a bunch of other perfectly interesting, but not compelling issues.

ohnonotgmail

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Your last line is a political one

Immigration was never raised once during the campaign by any of the mainstream parties, extraordinary when you consider that housing was the top issue

That elephant is hiding in full view

It wasn't raised because the electorate dont care about it. Or rather only 1% of them do.

Mad_maxx

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It wasn't raised because the electorate dont care about it. Or rather only 1% of them do.

They don't care about it if you draw accurate conclusions from polls etc

I'm saying as a people we are terribly keen to appear to be on side with aprooved respectability

ohnonotgmail

Mad_maxx wrote: »

They don't care about it if you draw accurate conclusions from polls etc

I'm saying as a people we are terribly keen to appear to be on side with aprooved respectability

Yeah we are fierce hoors for lying in anonymous polls. you can't be trusting us at all. give it a rest. you're talking nonsense.

banie01

The Nal wrote: »

The biggest hope for them was James Reynolds in Longford/Westmeath and he........ he didn't do well.

Their politics, and Gems and her few followers, have been widely rejected countrywide by the Irish people. Every single candidate, every single constituency. Its a no from Ireland.

Of particular note in the wholesale rejection of the far-right IMO, is the outright rejection of their talking and campaign points over the course of the exit poll questionnaire.

I am honestly happy to see that Ireland on the whole is still an outward looking and caring community despite the shrill may saying of the adherents of G'OD, Rowan and co.

Now on to the interesting part of this campaign!
Digging out the spreadsheets to see what way the coalition will rise and if we are...
In one of the most ironic quirks of fate in our history!

Seeing the deathblow to our 2 party civil war politics!
Being dealt by the party that claims to have started it all!

B0jangles

So the argument is that people are so embarrassed about voting for far-right/anti-immigrant candidates, they aren't even willing to do so when it's a secret ballot?