new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Kermit.de.frog · 08-02-2020 06:27AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226006586331672576

Kermit.de.frog · 08-02-2020 06:39AM

Wuhan facing 'wartime conditions' as global coronavirus deaths reach 724

With businesses around the world suffering, Beijing tightens controls

Sat 8 Feb 2020 03.55 GMT

Increasingly desperate officials in the quarantined epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak have tightened controls on an already frightened population, likening the growing crisis to “wartime conditions”.

Authorities in Wuhan city have started going door to door checking temperatures, and rounding up suspected coronavirus patients for forcible quarantine in stadiums and exhibition centres that are serving as warehouses for the sick, the New York Times reported. The city and country face “wartime conditions”, the paper quoted vice-premier Sun Chunlan, who has been put in charge of the national campaign against the virus, as saying on a visit to Wuhan. She said: “There must be no deserters, or they will be nailed to the pillar of historical shame forever.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/wuhan-facing-wartime-conditions-as-china-tries-to-contain-coronavirus

08-02-2020 06:59AM

Latest case in Vietnam was one of the group that went to Wuhan. Came back a few weeks ago.
Tested positive yet is totally fine. No fever / cough / anything.

Blud · 08-02-2020 07:02AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/wuhan-facing-wartime-conditions-as-china-tries-to-contain-coronavirus

Did your CIA mate verify these reports?

VinLieger · 08-02-2020 07:05AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Latest case in Vietnam was one of the group that went to Wuhan. Came back a few weeks ago.
Tested positive yet is totally fine. No fever / cough / anything.

Tbh means nothing until 14 days have passed after the first confirmed test.

08-02-2020 07:10AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Tbh means nothing until 14 days have passed after the first confirmed test.

What do you mean?

Kermit.de.frog · 08-02-2020 07:12AM

Blud wrote: »

Did your CIA mate verify these reports?

I don't have a CIA mate.

There is a tool you can make use of, whenever you like, if you like. Trust me, it is revolutionary...about 15 years a go but still...you gotta learn these things

Here is a "how to"...

https://searchengineland.com/guide/how-to-use-google-to-search

It's really fascinating.

The New York Times is interesting as well. Maybe you should have a read?

Next! :pac:

:cool:

Blud · 08-02-2020 07:20AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I don't have a CIA mate.

There is a tool you can make use of, whenever you like, if you like. Trust me, it is revolutionary...about 15 years a go but still...you gotta learn these things

Here is a "how to"...

https://searchengineland.com/guide/how-to-use-google-to-search

It's really fascinating.

The New York Times is interesting as well. Maybe you should have a read?

Next! :pac:

:cool:

You made the claim buddy. Repeatedly. You've been asked to link your source and you refuse.

If it's that easy to find, stick a link in here. Unless of course what you are referring to doesn't actually support your claim.

I'll be waiting.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-02-2020 07:21AM

Blud wrote: »

You made the claim buddy. Repeatedly. You've been asked to link your source and you refuse.

If it's that easy to find, stick a link in here. Unless of course what you are referring to doesn't actually support your claim.

I'll be waiting.

You were already dismissed "buddy". Do your own homework.

FishOnABike · 08-02-2020 07:50AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Just wondering if there has been any unconfirmed reports at the UHG in Galway as the town is going to be packed for tomorrow for the opening 2020 celebrations, thinking of staying away from it and staying indoors.

I think the weather might be more reason to stay indoors. I think the organisers are meeting this morning to determine the impact the weather will have on the opening ceremonies and any changes necessary. With high winds, spring tides of 5m+ and heavy rain forecast there might be some disruption.

08-02-2020 07:51AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Latest case in Vietnam was one of the group that went to Wuhan. Came back a few weeks ago.
Tested positive yet is totally fine. No fever / cough / anything.

Had they been in quarantine since arriving?

Blud · 08-02-2020 07:52AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You were already dismissed "buddy". Do your own homework.

And I'll wait.

08-02-2020 07:59AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Had they been in quarantine since arriving?

Nope. They arrived back from Wuhan on the 17th January which was before this really became a thing. (this thread was started on the 22nd)
Most of the others are sick and all are in quarantine. She got tested a couple of days ago and came back positive even though she feels fine.

tuxy · 08-02-2020 08:03AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You were already dismissed "buddy". Do your own homework.

There is no credible link on google. You said the CIA has confirmed China has a bioweapons lab. This would be the biggest news this week, if the CIA had made such claim in any official capacity. If it is only internal info how did you get the clearance to be informed?

I think you can see how increadably stupid this makes you look.
Post the link and regain credibility.

08-02-2020 08:07AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nope. They arrived back from Wuhan on the 17th January which was before this really became a thing. (this thread was started on the 22nd)
Most of the others are sick and all are in quarantine. She got tested a couple of days ago and came back positive even though she feels fine.

This is a strange virus. Wonder if one of them had the virus since arriving but like the female, didn’t feel sick. Which means they may have been in contact with random people since.

08-02-2020 08:09AM

Jeez lads, move on from the CIA stuff. Believe it, don’t believe it, laugh at it like many other conspiracies that have been posted.

Be like Elsa!

08-02-2020 08:14AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

This is a strange virus. Wonder if one of them had the virus since arriving but like the female, didn’t feel sick. Which means they may have been in contact with random people since.

Four people in that area went to Wuhan. One of them infected three family members, one of whom was 16. Eighteen people they know are in quarantine.

Unlucky family. Having a third of the country's confirmed between them.

08-02-2020 08:16AM

Here’s hoping they all recover.

gozunda · 08-02-2020 08:54AM

Current world data for outbreak. Although I reckon the official Chinese figures are unlikely to reflect the full seriousness of the current situation.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

daheff · 08-02-2020 09:06AM

sdanseo wrote: »

People need to stop "presenting at hospital" with a suspected case of borderline pandemic virus.

Self isolate. Stay at home and call your doctor, then let them advise and assist.

If people can't follow that basic advice, perhaps Darwinism needs to run its course.

Or travel back from China in recent days without advising the authorities on arrival.

This is the selfish bit that really annoys me.

Graces7 · 08-02-2020 09:23AM

sdanseo wrote: »

People need to stop "presenting at hospital" with a suspected case of borderline pandemic virus.

Self isolate. Stay at home and call your doctor, then let them advise and assist.

If people can't follow that basic advice, perhaps Darwinism needs to run its course.

This is part of the guidleines published by HSE very clearly and printed on the breaking news website. go to breakingnews.ie and the header at the top " coronavirus" HSE is acting on WHO and world/European guidelines and all si well provided for,

Cannot post links on my machine so maybe someone could, to set folks ' minds at rest on this?

It is under control here and provisions are in place. And yes, we can all protect ourselves and our familes; masks, strict hygiene etc,

And please, keep an eye out for any old folk alone near you? Gale and ?? snow?? ahead and they will need shopping etc. And they will be worried too

whiskeyman · 08-02-2020 09:32AM

gozunda wrote: »

Current world data for outbreak. Although I reckon the official Chinese figures are unlikely to reflect the full seriousness of the current situation.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I'd be very worried about those 'severe condition' cases.
Those are the ones that may turn into far higher mortality when hospitals are stretched as it continues to spread.

08-02-2020 09:55AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226011869120548864?s=19

Need numbers of those who have died from viral pneumonia asap now and for previous years so we can see how big the change is from normal

Gynoid · 08-02-2020 09:59AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226011869120548864?s=19

Someone who responded to that tweet made a good observation. If we had total number of daily deaths in China now, from any cause, a comparison could be made with daily death totals in other years. I wonder are those kind of statistics available.
Edit. Snap. I see you edited to make similar point

Kermit.de.frog · 08-02-2020 10:05AM

You need to make your own minds up on the figures at this point. They are meaningless.

We have a situation now as reported in the NYT where, as I predicted, all suspected cases are being moved in to what are effectively concentration camps in Wuhan. Not even the hospitals they built.

Come to your own conclusions as to the seriousness of the situation. Governments around the world have already.

Panrich · 08-02-2020 10:10AM

You’d imagine that corralling sick people in close proximity to each other will increase the severity of each case as well thereby making the outcome worse for these individuals.

screamer · 08-02-2020 10:17AM

Panrich wrote: »

You’d imagine that corralling sick people in close proximity to each other will increase the severity of each case as well thereby making the outcome worse for these individuals.

Perhaps but it’s been the way of things since time began. Google for pictures of the tb hospitals in Ireland that were here right up to the 80s.
In cases like these, the healthy need to be protected, the sick unfortunately have to take their chances, and better that’s fine away from healthy population. It’s apparent China don’t know what they are dealing with here, and only started trialing hiv meds to treat it in the last day or so, even though reports from other countries are that a combo of anti virals including hiv anti virals have worked well against it.

busymum1 · 08-02-2020 10:17AM

This is the best summary that I've seen so far..It makes for a chilling read though. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/reporters-notebook-life-and-death-in-a-wuhan-coronavirus-icu

volchitsa · 08-02-2020 10:21AM

Gynoid wrote: »

Someone who responded to that tweet made a good observation. If we had total number of daily deaths in China now, from any cause, a comparison could be made with daily death totals in other years. I wonder are those kind of statistics available.
Edit. Snap. I see you edited to make similar point

As I pointed out a couple of days ago. Just saying.

volchitsa wrote: »

If that is happening in any numbers, then death rates from pneumonia etc will have spiked. Are they going to refuse to make those available while publishing (official) death rates from this virus? Would be pretty dodgy looking, surely?

s7ryf3925pivug · 08-02-2020 10:22AM

Panrich wrote: »

You’d imagine that corralling sick people in close proximity to each other will increase the severity of each case as well thereby making the outcome worse for these individuals.

Yes, they are more concerned about containment. At the current rate of spread it would infect everyone in China in a few months. They are placing exceptional demands on their citizens as a result. It's horrific but I don't know any better ideas.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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