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    #812
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,461 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Warnings and bans are handed out for rudeness on boards ; not ideologically. And the grifting twitter and podcast based right seem especially thin skinned.

    Thanks Catherine Noone fan! you won't live down that thread from last week! Your last couple of comments on that thread were telling!


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    #813
    Lonesomerhodes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Brian? wrote: »
    I’m delighted. The more people know about the National party, the less likely they are to vote for them.

    Doesn't make any sense that.

    Your saying people who DON'T know of them will vote for them?. :rolleyes:


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    #814
    Sonic_exyouth
    Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Sonic_exyouth


    Lonesomerhodes wrote: »
    Doesn't make any sense that.

    Your saying people who DON'T know of them will vote for them?. :rolleyes:

    Yeah, thats actually how it is

    A lot of people think its a harmless "protest vote" when in reality it's extraordinarily evil


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    #815
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Lonesomerhodes wrote: »
    John Waters mince any of the lunatic left in a debate,

    You do realize John Waters debated several times on TV3 for example and easily minced the hosts in debate, logic and rationale.
    He's a smart cookie

    For a man with very serious health issues he is as sharp as a butcher's knife.

    What????

    This guy?
    John_Waters_CNA_World_Catholic_News_8_22_12.jpg?w=760

    You must be talking about the other John Waters, the one with bad facial hair who makes dodgy movies depicting all sorts of human depravity.

    john-waters-lede.w330.h412.jpg

    No doubt which is the bigger weirdo!!!


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    #816
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Lonesomerhodes wrote: »
    Doesn't make any sense that.

    Your saying people who DON'T know of them will vote for them?. :rolleyes:

    I think some people will vote for them as a protest because they are Irish nationalists. If they know what the National Party actually stand for this is far less likely.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #817
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Brian? wrote: »
    I think some people will vote for them as a protest because they are Irish nationalists. If they know what the National Party actually stand for this is far less likely.

    You don't have to be a nationalist to be against further cultural diversity.


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    #818
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    AllForIt wrote: »
    You don't have to be a nationalist to be against further cultural diversity.

    What is you would have to be then?


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    #819
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    alastair wrote: »
    What is you would have to be then?

    Afraid.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #820
    TwoMonthsOff
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    Brian? wrote: »
    Afraid.

    How much immigration is enough?


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    #821
    Idbatterim
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    TwoMonthsOff wrote: »
    How much immigration is enough?

    depends on the migrants!


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    #822
    ghost of ireland past
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 228 ✭✭ghost of ireland past


    Ireland belongs to the Irish, and to no-one else.

    This shouldn't have to be explained.

    Even the Dalai Lama agrees.

    He was laughing as he explained to Der Spiegle that Germany belongs to the Germans.

    The Irish are fools to give what's ours away to others.


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    #823
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,048 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    ghost of ireland past wrote: »
    Ireland belongs to the Irish, and to no-one else.

    This shouldn't have to be explained.

    Even the Dalai Lama agrees.

    He was laughing as he explained to Der Spiegle that Germany belongs to the Germans.

    The Irish are fools to give what's ours away to others.

    Saying a country 'belongs' to someone is like saying a dog belongs to the fleas.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #824
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Yeah? I already explained it. If youre a Nazi you are declaring war on the entire planet. Dont cry foul when everyone wants you dead.

    What are you trying to prove with this retarded argument anyway? That im somehow bad for wanting to eliminate nazis?

    You gonna tell the boys who stormed normandy they were wrong for killing Nazis?

    Pathetic pseudo intellectual mental gymnastics on your part.

    WTF are you waffling on about.

    Where are all these nazis these days ?

    BTW what is your definition of nazis ?
    Anyone that doesn't believe in exactly the same stuff as yourself perhaps ?

    And just because someone is right wing conservative does not equate them to being a nazi or a fascist.

    If it did then most of the ones storming the beaches in Normandy were also fooking nazis.

    Likewise being left wing does not mean someone wants to reinvigorate Gulags or killing fields.

    There is too much US college and social media shytology coming across the Atlantic and being spewed out here.
    TwoMonthsOff wrote: »
    How much immigration is enough?

    No one ever answers that.


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    #825
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    TwoMonthsOff wrote: »
    How much immigration is enough?

    Managed immigration is what we have, and it’s not an issue for most people.


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    #826
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Cordell


    alastair wrote: »
    Managed immigration is what we have, and it’s not an issue for most people.

    Immigration from EU is not managed, also it's not properly recorded.


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    #827
    alastair
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    Cordell wrote: »
    Immigration from EU is not managed, also it's not properly recorded.

    We opted in to freedom of movement within the EU, including all it’s rights and restrictions. That’s managing the arrangement.


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    #828
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    TwoMonthsOff wrote: »
    How much immigration is enough? Just come out and say you want unlimited immigration you weird ****..

    Save your venting for tomorrow’s electoral results.


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    #829
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Cordell


    alastair wrote: »
    We opted in to freedom of movement within the EU, including all it’s rights and restrictions. That’s managing the arrangement.

    Well, there is no management and no restriction, that is the fact no matter what the cause may be.
    Other EU countries may have some form of management or at least they keep records, but not Ireland.


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    #830
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Cordell wrote: »
    Well, there is no management and no restriction, that is the fact no matter what the cause may be.
    Other EU countries may have some form of management or at least they keep records, but not Ireland.

    There are restrictions of course.


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    #831
    ghost of ireland past
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 228 ✭✭ghost of ireland past


    It is an issue for me, and for many others.

    Am I a racist?


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    #832
    ghost of ireland past
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 228 ✭✭ghost of ireland past


    Are you paid to post here Alastair?


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    #833
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    ghost of ireland past wrote: »
    Are you paid to post here Alastair?

    Who covers your tinfoil overhead?


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    #834
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ghost of ireland past wrote: »
    Are you paid to post here Alastair?

    show respect for those in holy orders!


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    #835
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Cordell


    alastair wrote: »
    There are restrictions of course.

    No, none whatsoever. I should know, I'm one of them.

    Other countries, like Germany, only offers 3 months unconditional residence for EU citizens and also require everyone to register - not sure about enforcement, probably none, but at least there is something to enforce.


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    #836
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Cordell wrote: »
    No, none whatsoever. I should know, I'm one of them.

    Other countries, like Germany, only offers 3 months unconditional residence for EU citizens and also require everyone to register - not sure about enforcement, probably none, but at least there is something to enforce.

    Every EU State offers 3 months unconditional residency - with provisos for public order and health. The enforcement of the restrictions inherent in freedom of movement don’t require registration - that’s entirely optional for the member State.


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    #837
    ghost of ireland past
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 228 ✭✭ghost of ireland past


    The refusal to discuss immigration at political level will destroy our society.

    There is nothing wrong with Ireland remaining Irish.

    If Ireland doesn't remain Irish, and what's yours is mine, and I want to live in your house, then what's to stop me?

    This country will descend into serious violence and politics will be unworkable in a few years. We are so stupid in this country.


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    #838
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Cordell


    alastair wrote: »
    Every EU State offers 3 months unconditional residency - with provisos for public order and health. The enforcement of the restrictions inherent in freedom of movement don’t require registration - that’s entirely optional for the member State.

    Ireland offers unlimited, unconditional and unregistered residency.
    So with this can we agree that there is no management for the EU immigration?


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    #839
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Cordell wrote: »
    Ireland offers unlimited, unconditional and unregistered residency.
    So with this can we agree that there is no management for the EU immigration?

    It’s not unconditional though. That’s the thing.


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    #840
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭Cordell


    alastair wrote: »
    It’s not unconditional though. That’s the thing.

    What is the condition then?
    Please don't reply with "EU citizen"


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    #841
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,321 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    ghost of ireland past wrote: »
    Are you paid to post here Alastair?

    Says the lad creating half a dozen new accounts everyday.


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