Cork developments

namloc1980 wrote: »

Definitely. MacCurtain Street has a good vibe especially towards the Bridge Street end but it's badly let down by the streetscape dominated by cars and narrow footpaths.

Will making it two way have an impact on this? They could remove parking / Bus lane and widen the footpaths with cut-ins for the bus perhaps, unlikely but the big problem with that street is people chucking their cars into the bus lane.

Also need a loading bay for the everyman

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Video was actually done just before Christmas but only posted recently: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jcd-group_acityrising-anewkindofworkday-activity-6623535648819171330-a-xH

Note: Linkedin's video player is pants

Their Linkedin page is very active. Posting content regular about PD which leads me to assume they are struggling to drum up business for the offices

Particularly liked the call out of the NTA to setup in Cork and literally see what they're dealing with

Italix wrote: »

I heard they haven't got a full license for alcohol, it can only be sold with food.

Out of interest what's your source? Official or word of mouth?

Italix wrote: »

I heard they haven't got a full license for alcohol, it can only be sold with food.

A Micro-brewery where you can't stop off to just have a drink is an unusual concept if it turns out to be true.

Bierhalle (next door to The Bierhaus, now Mirch Massala ) had the same problem.
I think the original idea was a bar that served food but the licencing situation meant that alcohol could only be served with food - something about half the turnover being food, too.

I assumed that Thompson's would have a full bar licence.

lisasimpson wrote: »

Not in Ireland. Law only changed in the last couple of years. Think up until recently you couldnt pop into the local brewery to get a few bottles or hampers at christmas. New law changed it a bit and mirco breweries can sell you drink directly if you do a tour.

That requires a new kind of licence. You have to go to court for it.
It applies to micro breweries and distilleries.
Any other liquor licence associated with the premises is extinguished (apart from manufacturing licence).
So, if they went down that route, they could only sell what they make on site, could only serve people with a ticket for a tour and could not serve after 19.00.

Not great for a restaurant.

marno21 wrote: »

According to SSC there's been site engineers out and about around the Prism over the last few days. Anyone spotted them?

Saw a group of lads in high vis standing around that area yesterday morning. Can't say for certain it was related

Looks tailor made for another office development site is there's still room for more.

Sale of farm supplies shop may lead to Cork City’s next major development

At the moment, probably. You'd imagine that unless there's some serious work done by the IDA (City Council? Chamber of Commerce?) in order to promote outside investment, most of the office capacity is likely to be Cork based businesses shuffling around the city.

Considering you have 2 office blocks at Penrose Dock to come, 2 at Penrose Quay, 3 at Horgan's Quay, the Prism, the office blocks in the Beamish Quarter....

And it hardly needs saying again, adding on capacity for ~10,000 office workers doesn't make a whole lot of sense when there's very limited residential increases to match. The largest likely upcoming development being the Albert Quay tower, but that's still only ~500, so the overall effect will be a worsening of the housing situation.

snotboogie wrote: »

I think they are still working on the second block? As far as I know there has been no work started on the third.

There isn't, but if the first one isn't full and the second one has nobody going in yet then the third will more then likely be the same is what I meant by that, bad grammar haha.

I'm not saying they shouldn't build it, it's brilliant to see all these new offices going up, much better then the run down stuff that was there. There just needs to be a real push by IDA Ireland etc as somebody said to get more business down to here instead of Dublin. Accomdation really is the blocking point though.

who_me wrote: »

At the moment, probably. You'd imagine that unless there's some serious work done by the IDA (City Council? Chamber of Commerce?) in order to promote outside investment, most of the office capacity is likely to be Cork based businesses shuffling around the city.

Considering you have 2 office blocks at Penrose Dock to come, 2 at Penrose Quay, 3 at Horgan's Quay, the Prism, the office blocks in the Beamish Quarter....

And it hardly needs saying again, adding on capacity for ~10,000 office workers doesn't make a whole lot of sense when there's very limited residential increases to match. The largest likely upcoming development being the Albert Quay tower, but that's still only ~500, so the overall effect will be a worsening of the housing situation.

Ballinglanna opens in Q1/Q2 2020, with 400 units coming on stream eventually (probably over the next two years). And another 250 ish follows after that, if Dunkettle gets done..
I'd obviously rather higher density housing developments located in the city centre, but it is technically city housing being delivered in the next few weeks. And it's obviously a flawed development design (no public transport or footpaths) but in terms of city housing delivery, it's at least a start.